I agree - twins are easier to maneuver, but things do break, and entry level I would rather have one engine than two to fix and freshen up and drives to repair and gas to fill up. Just my .02, but having a sense of security when something breaks in the water is important also.

I hear ya appadiahee, its definitly easier maintance and cost wise to have just one under the hatch. But hey, theres nothing cheap or easy when it comes to these pocket vacuums we float around on.

You are correct there. Hey no one said I was smart about it either. I just bought a 32 Skater with twins. It seems that as gas gets more expensive I just use more of it. Now I have to learn how to drive twins myself.

Another thing - never be a 2 boat owner. I am really shooting myself in the foot. I can only use one at a time and insurance for a 27 year old in the hi perf world is outreageous.

Yeah, that's no fun.

But ya gotta pay to play. :D

I think thats a sweet azz boat. In fact I almost bought it. I was going to this spring, but the apache kind of fell in my lap.

Also take a look at the 28 Saber. There is a member with one and he is willing to let it go for $43K (asking). New interior, rebuilt engine (single 502), new paint and trailer. I was going to buy that one as well. The twin engine 28 saber cyclone is the only boat under 30ft to receive powerboat mag.'s most outstanding offshore boat of the year (something like that). If I was in your shoes thats the one I'd get.

Here's a real sweet little Donzi that won't cause you any head aches. I'm sure the owner would love to sell so don't be too shy to throw out an offer. :D

Sweet Donzi

Sharp looking boat... What year is it?

Thanks, it's a 90'. I would sure love to sell her but I don't feel like giving it away.

I don't blame you on that... Nice boat.

i say the pantera....its a tank

I am kinda leaning that way too.

There's a 94 29' fountain near me for sale with twin 502's/1000hp... 189 hours, k-planes, halon system, etc... Any info on something like that? Durability?

does it come with a bald spot and a silk jacket???

j/k j/k, fountains are ok

Twin 502's might be a little much in a 25ft boat :D

Yeah and a southern accent too.

http://www.fountainpowerboats.com/co...reggie5_mn.jpg

29 man 29... :p

http://images.traderonline.com/EMedi...44000003_1.jpg

Talked to Frank, the guy selling it yesterday... He says it's good for mid 80's... Bought it with 120-150 or so hrs on it in 98, it has 205 now... Never really used it too much from what he said.

Really need to do your own objective research on any boat your considering. Use the search function. If your looking at a 29 fountain I'd get a single engine set-up.

any pictures, info of the pantera for $25k you guys have mentioned?

Go with the Donzi

Wow! Beautiful boat!! Nicely done!!!

How about this Chris? Awesome rough water boat. I like the stock 454 mags too

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18018-en.html

Too big man. But a great looking boat.

That was through word of mouth, don't think there is an ad for that one anywhere.

That boat has already been sold:(

nice apache
 

Here are my criteria and how I plan to use the boat:

Usage: Trailering to Lake Michigan, Chain O Lakes, possible LOTO. Looking for durability cuz I know it gets big out there.
Size: 28-32
Power: twins, just in case one decides to quit on the lake... unless someone can make a really good case for a single. Looking for something 700-800 hp or so in total, I guess.
Speed: 70+?
Price: Want to spend $30,000-40,000
Year:90 or newer

I would also like a boat that is party (and female :D) friendly, so it has to have a bench in the back with a sun/swim pad + platform. A cabin is a must too... No stripper race boats.



http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o20283-en.html

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o19721-en.html

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._id=75118&url=

Lay it on me.

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Lookin @ the Apache:
Plumbing looks a little funky, water and fuel lines etc. but overall she looks good the triple axle trl. is a plus bet it could be had for low 30's just my .02 p.s. make sure you get rid of the picture "in the -- mirror" way up in the v-berth or should I say girth LOL and good luck ! :cool-smiley-027: do the survey ! the 29 fountain looks a-ok too.would prob.b-the-fast-1 or ck. out add #18970 on OSO a single screw ---- Fountain; get the Apache it's a real boat IMHO dual ram steering good ! - 700hp ? from a 496ci that must be way up in the RPM's

no, joe had it right, that one just went right over your head. like their ads, fountain tends to exaggerate a bit. that 29 is not a true 29. they add the swim platform and beak nose to their overall length measurement. that 28' apache brave would dwarf the 29' fountain parked side by side. sure it will run, but only in "fountain water"(flat) and we are seeing less and less of those days lately

Hey bud, if you are thinking about that 29 Fountain, maybe you will like this, I hear they handle the rough like a seizure. This one might be a little tougher to trailer than that 29 fountain you are looking at. :D

Heres a cool old 8.8 meter. 454 mags with bravo carbs and thunderbolt trannies. I think the Fountain 8.8 is longer than a 29 fever but i may be wrong there. I dont think they measured the 8.8 with the swim platform.:cool-smiley-011:

http://www.boattraderonline.com/adde....html?89895095

whoa! nice 20 foot Gay! it's got your name on it chris, and the dealer is right up your alley.

I still can't stop laughing, that s**t is too funny.

That thing doesn't have enough pink on it for me! :D:p

OK OK OK I don't want any rough water seizures fellas.

That didn't go over my head MO I understood what he was saying.

just like the bravo carbs and thunderbolt trannies too huh?

lol...we are gonna have a lot of fun @ the boat show this week

mo

The new guy always has to take some abuse! Hey Matt, whats your opinion of the old thunderbolt trannies? I think they are comparable to the velour drive borg warners.

Here is a nice 33ZX Donzi with fresh power, nice cabin ammenities and ride. I think you could get it for $60k or less. The guy is ready to sell, wants to move up.

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/9/0/91798890.htm

I suggest buying a Panchanga
 

A 1987 32 foot Sea Ray Panchanga twin mercruiser 454 magnums ... I have one for sale $18,999 FIRM. Let me know if you are interested :cool-smiley-027:

Also have a 1996 Dinghy with 25hp Merc $5,500 obo

12 Ft Jon Boat 2hp Merc $2,000 FIRM (Handles well in rough water)

Partial Trades Welcomed

The pachangas were cool boats. ALways liked the 22.

Thanks Mild Thunder
 

Me and the boys from Idaho Falls, Idaho are trailing our Pachangas to Minnesota early Spring. We are setting up a Poker Run in the crispy clear refreshing waters of Lake Minnetonka. You and the rest of your Chicago Offshore Outfit should meet us up there....

Rick

How many pachangas do you guys have? Found a couple nice ones on the net, classics. Enjoy. Hear they are built well

How many hours on your pachanga? Does it have the cool pachanga style exhaust pipes out the swim platform sides? I will let my buddy know, price seems good.

Pachanga
 

Its mint only has 500 hours on each motor Recent rebuild. Blue printed. Drives are currently getting redone by my buddy Bill. He can build a bullet proof drive for these boats. Im Running about 74 Mph on Flat water 67 on 3-4 Chop. Nice swim up platform for easy access for the Ladies... We currently have 12 boats heading to Minnesota..

FYI: I also have my rig up for sale. Its a 2000 Ford F350 Dually Diesel 4x4 175k. Willing to Sell the Whole Package for $24,000. The Boat, Trailer,Truck. And willing to meet in Chicago. Partial Trades also Welcomed Possible Old Muscle Cars...Etc... Open 4 Anything.

Got any cockpit/cabin/engine room pics of the boat? Pics of the truck?

Here are some PicsI
 

I got more pics if you are interested.... You cant beat this combo price anywhere