Vinnie,

SINE of Rod Angle=.5/ (Rod Length/Stroke)

In Excel:
SIN=SUM (0.5)/ (Rod Length/Stroke)

SINE of Rod Angle=.5/ (6.135”/4”) = .3259983


To Convert to Degrees in Excel:

=DEGREES (ASIN (SIN))
=DEGREES (ASIN (.3259983)) =19.0267º

Pit bull are you actually saying that because you paid more for your membership you have more to offer.

I have never met Tyler but his reputation speaks for it self.
stop being a schmuck.

Holy Chit your makin this look hard, i thought you just turn the key and GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO :evilb:

:DHello Bob,

Hope your not buried in snow up there. Now... What the hell are you talking about, English please....:D

[QUOTE=TylerCrockett;2426159]Damn Tyler....go eat an energy bar or something......:DDave

...and the information you derive from this calculation is only helpful if you have the knowledge/experience to tell you if the resulting number is good or bad.

[QUOTE=Wardey;2430825] LOL :D:D

I agree. I just was interested in what the equation is. I dont claim to be an expert engine builder, I just build my own and a few for friends. I never heard of that measurement before.

You guys get to do that!!:D:D

I dont build them I just blow them UP.:D

LMAO!

I try to due both as little as possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had a procharged 502 with 5psi in my boat until i talked to tyler crockett and talked me in to a na 540. That 540 runs just as strong as the procharged 502. Tyler knows his stuff! I have had ZERO problems with the 540. I dont know of the builders in NY but i think it might be time to make Tyler one of your new friends in engine building. He knows his chit!! Lots of self proclaimed engine bench racers out there, not tyler- he is the real deal. ask anyone!:cool-smiley-011:

Hey Dean this is why i sit back and watch:party-smiley-004:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9nsVNpkk_D8&feature=related this video kind of makes me re-think the statement of cubic inches,, with fuel prices climbing it makes sense to keep exploring new ground.. although i love my 540's i just wish i could the carbs to idle better

Yep........I just laugh.:D:D

Another a**hole making pit bulls look bad...

Can we get another "Ask JCPERF" thread going? :D:hitfan:

Wow!!!!!!!

Fred E Fox

Very nice to meet you at the Lake Travis Poker Run.:D

Very nice boat also!

I figured at this point it would not hurt to hijack the thread.

I've been talked into a couple of 540's by Mark Boos. Guess I've been screwed!:evilb:

Hey Spray how you doing buddy?

Tyler you have built engines for a lot of my friends and they love the product. I appreciate you for taking the time to share your experience and knowledge. You built two beautiful 850's for my good friend Jeff Akers for his 36 Outlaw. Now Mark Boos is building me two 850's with Whipples for my 36 Outlaw. Who's going to be faster?:D

Dock

:food-smiley-007::ernaehrung004::D

:hitfan::party-smiley-004:

Great thread..... Pit Bull seems to hold up to the news
 

I've read this from start to finish. I don't have a presence out here, but have been a member for a while. I buy the membership because a lot of educated engine builders explain/announce a ton of valuable information for the guy who wants the best bang for his buck. In a very professional manner - I must add. Crockett, Raylar and all of the other guys ~ awesome! Where else can a person spend 75 bucks a year and get a wealth of knowledge like this..... No where! This is the best board for boating fanatics/enthusiasts ever!

I don't build marine engines. I would like to buy a good dependable, turn key 650 HP engine. Got a builder picked out and just haven't pulled the trigger yet (though it's getting late). Anyway - I do have a communication business. Wow ~ I must say the "tone" of every post of the Pit Bull guy lives up to the media. Mean, nasty, run in packs and leave them alone.

I hope this Pit Bull guy with all of his stuff - doesn't build engines while he's drinking.... Seems to be the common thread in everyone of his posts. Bad day at work - go bash the guys you can't agree with or can't communicate with.

As for Raylar, Crockett and the horsepower guy, OBVIOUSLY ~ you guys have nothing to prove and your experience speaks volumes above the "white noise" of this thread. It is why you are successful... Period.

Amen to HP & keep up the great work!

Have a great day!

This thread was sleeping for almost a year and you had to go and wake it up. Maybe cooler heads will prevail this time.

I thought that a 502 was a 10.200 deck height not 9.800 deck height

Pitbull Engines?
 

I have 2 - 572 Gellners - The only reason I went that route was because it does both bore and stroke - 4.565 X 4.375 = its all limited to cost - tall decks and stroked cranks cost money! - Merc might have gone with this combo for just that reason 557 is used in 3 of their top engines. YES, I am limited to re-boring, but there is enough meat left to consider cly heat.

Pit Bull - Really, whats your point? Dean is one the the best BBC Marine Builders in the country, I know he knows more than you, as does, Tyler and JC - These guys have built more engines than you - and really, you can't know everything about everything. I owned a BMW Mercedes Porsche shop Specialty Shop for 20 years and have built many foreign engines - MARINE BIG BLOCKS are a different animal - and as far as a Harley, they are just a sump pump engine with two wheels and some bling on the outside - So you really have no argument and even if you were right, everyone else would go with the 3 guys REPUTATIONS that have been trying to help you see the light.

Give it up - you aren't making any friends on this site - because this site its not what you have in your garage, its how you socialize in a group - "forum" = "People participating in an Internet forum can build bonds with each other and interest groups will easily form around a topic's discussion, subjects dealt with in or around sections in the forum"......

If you think you're the bomb, come out and race with your engines - I am sure they would love the challenge. Peace be with you!

hay dean,ray,and tyler,you guys have built hundreds of good quality marine engines,but pit has a shop&likes mb cars,how could you possibly know more than pit does about marine engines,after all,he has a 12 sec daily driver.now lets assess all of this.geeezz,if i were looking for advice on a marine engine,who would i listen to?i guess if my boat had a mb engine,id call pit,how many guys got mb engines in the boat.hay pit,you are the man,do us a favor,just go away.:sport009:

lol:cool-smiley-027:

hay daredevil,did you notice that i didn,t pick on him about where the mb comes from?lol.:ernaehrung004:

I cannot believe this thread came back to the top again!!! I'm having Tripple Digits flashbacks too!!!:party-smiley-004:

Oh, and my dad can beat up your dad.:angry-smiley-038:

HAHA ,,,yes i did !!!!!:ernaehrung004:

Hey ,,,,wile we are at dads,,,did u ever hear that joke about the 3 kids in school?????

They where asked by the teacher who has the best dad and the first one said mine ,,mine ,,he works for Delta and flies around the world in 16 hours,,,.......second one said ,,big deal ,,mine ,,he works for NASA and flies to the moon and back in the same time,,.........and then the 3 rd kid said ,,,you are all full of it,,..... my dad works for the city, gets off at 5pm and is home by noon !!!!!:grinser010:

Missed you in Biloxi DD. Was great weather for racing!

OK Dean now i see how you are :cool-smiley-027:
Sounds like theres room for Pitbull is Arizona :eek:

I run a gen 5, 509ci and it made 660hp,it only has 30hrs on it but runs strong so far,just did a custom cam from bob madera this winter,runs even better now,it has some big heads on it and also pretty stout camshaft.

he is talking about the short deck block 502 being built as a 540, I have heard the same it will have piston wear early, you I think are talking about the tall deck block which is good for 540:ernaehrung004: and will make more power. griff after reading the whole thread I quess it means all 540s are less powerfull ha hahhah and I was told wrong by a friend 2 weeks ago o boy. well I quess my 509 will be a DEAN GELLNER 540 next winter if he thinks it needs it but its only got 30hrs since last rebuild and the 572 of his will be going in next. boy this was a interesting thread.

that 540 is a long block and has a smaller cam non roller then the 502. a long deck 540 will make more power than a 502 short deck same cam, comp, I was told not to turn my 509 into a 540, but a 522 I think and it would last longer maybe the guy was wrong I talked to. oh well:grinser010: as above stated I will be going 540 ha haha

MR. HORSEPOWER 1 was the youngest person to get a PRO STOCK lincense in the 90s, and has built a lot of fine race boat/race car/ pokerrun/ engines and has been in the mags in book stores:D. HE IS BUILDING ME A 572 BLOWER MOTOR AS WE SPEAK:D. I quess I herd wrong about the 9.8 blocks, thats why I have a new engine builder as in him:ernaehrung004:,

hey when you go to change the springs after 300hrs, talk to dean about his intake/carb/ cam combo it will be just as reliable but 725 hp:ernaehrung004: if I was you I would do it now with 70hours:drink:. your merc 540 500hp is a lot better than my hp500 502 was.

so what is the good summary here ?

reliable 600hp - NA - pump gas -540 stroked 502

what cam
what intake
what rods
what pistons
stock heads?

Thanks as always experts.