Don Aronow Memorial Race final countdown.
05-17-2008, 05:29 AM
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Don Aronow Memorial Race final countdown.
Okay, we are down to the final days of the preparation of the race. With just about 4 weeks left, it breaks down like this:
Helmets may be either DOT or Snell approved.
HORBA has added another class just for turbine boats.
That means the gasoline powered cats and vees will not have to compete directly against the turbine boats (Yes, we heard that there will be more than one....but no formal entry beyond Miss Geico)
We have two people interested in setting speed records and have made provisions for that with experienced officials that have done this certification before.
We will be increasing the entry fee on June 1st. For those procrastinators in the crowd, get with it and send your entry in today before the increase. We need a boat count as early as possible for safety reasons. The earlier you register, the more you help us pull this off....we appreciate your help. Entry form on www.historicraceboats.com
Thursday. Boat inspections will be in the dry pit area (Race Village) on Thursday. You must be registered no later than 3 PM or you don't run. Inspections go until 6 PM. Drivers meeting on Thursday evening @6:30 in City Hall of Sunny Isles Beach.
Patrol boats and safety boats will meet in the same place immediatley after the drivers meeting.
Friday morning, driver physicals in the pit area 8 - 9 AM. Boat blessing @ 9:30 with Jim Black. Boats will start to leave for milling area around 11AM. Race start @ Noon.
Firday afternoon, class winners will be awarded trophies and be asked to prepare their boats for a Champion's Boat Parade through Sunny Isles Beach, then return to the Race Village for display.(Dry Pits).
Friday night...There will be entertainment and live music, I believe, until 11PM Friday night. Old Racers get together will be going on in Dania at Jimbos Raw bar until 10PM.
Saturday, OSS testing and APBA Racing and the Florida Poker Run will be leaving at 11AM. HORBA Historic Race Boat and Car show in Race Village all day.
Saturday night, a big party for Old Racers, HORBA Don Aronow Memorial Racers, Florida Poker Run participants, and OSS racers at Gulfstream Track and Casino. Continuous showing of old video of races on big screens, food and live entertainment.
Sunday the OSS races in front of Sunny Isles Beach.
We have heard the talk for years, that the racers of today wished that they had a chance to race on the open ocean the way it was done years ago......a lot of work has made this a reality...take this opportunity while you have the chance.
It is going to be a great race, a race that you will be proud to have been part of.
Today is the day that you have been waiting for.
Don't let anyone ever say of you:
He slept beneath the moon,
He basked beneath the sun;
He lived a life of going-to-do
And died with nothing done.
Helmets may be either DOT or Snell approved.
HORBA has added another class just for turbine boats.
That means the gasoline powered cats and vees will not have to compete directly against the turbine boats (Yes, we heard that there will be more than one....but no formal entry beyond Miss Geico)
We have two people interested in setting speed records and have made provisions for that with experienced officials that have done this certification before.
We will be increasing the entry fee on June 1st. For those procrastinators in the crowd, get with it and send your entry in today before the increase. We need a boat count as early as possible for safety reasons. The earlier you register, the more you help us pull this off....we appreciate your help. Entry form on www.historicraceboats.com
Thursday. Boat inspections will be in the dry pit area (Race Village) on Thursday. You must be registered no later than 3 PM or you don't run. Inspections go until 6 PM. Drivers meeting on Thursday evening @6:30 in City Hall of Sunny Isles Beach.
Patrol boats and safety boats will meet in the same place immediatley after the drivers meeting.
Friday morning, driver physicals in the pit area 8 - 9 AM. Boat blessing @ 9:30 with Jim Black. Boats will start to leave for milling area around 11AM. Race start @ Noon.
Firday afternoon, class winners will be awarded trophies and be asked to prepare their boats for a Champion's Boat Parade through Sunny Isles Beach, then return to the Race Village for display.(Dry Pits).
Friday night...There will be entertainment and live music, I believe, until 11PM Friday night. Old Racers get together will be going on in Dania at Jimbos Raw bar until 10PM.
Saturday, OSS testing and APBA Racing and the Florida Poker Run will be leaving at 11AM. HORBA Historic Race Boat and Car show in Race Village all day.
Saturday night, a big party for Old Racers, HORBA Don Aronow Memorial Racers, Florida Poker Run participants, and OSS racers at Gulfstream Track and Casino. Continuous showing of old video of races on big screens, food and live entertainment.
Sunday the OSS races in front of Sunny Isles Beach.
We have heard the talk for years, that the racers of today wished that they had a chance to race on the open ocean the way it was done years ago......a lot of work has made this a reality...take this opportunity while you have the chance.
It is going to be a great race, a race that you will be proud to have been part of.
Today is the day that you have been waiting for.
Don't let anyone ever say of you:
He slept beneath the moon,
He basked beneath the sun;
He lived a life of going-to-do
And died with nothing done.
Last edited by Top Banana; 05-17-2008 at 05:38 AM.
05-17-2008, 05:47 AM
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Sounds great, can you post a list of participants and add to it as they trickle in?
05-17-2008, 06:50 AM
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Charlie, Brad,.. Larry..
Just a few of my .02
I am sure you guys thought long and hard about all this but I think the "entry count" is low do to the classes of boats.
I been following the threads and while this is looked upon an event that's a "must in participation" many of the OS and performance boaters are way more competative then most would admit. IE. the Poker Run circuit. The bigger, faster, more muscle the better. THe PR's are always refered to as an "even" ..not a "race", yet many participants act like a racing event. The HOBRA event is an actual race, and I feel there are many boaters shy away since the boat they run has no chance of being competative due to the class designations
I plan to attend strictly to "be there" (if my boat ever get's finished.)
and have bragging right to the event, but knowing clearly that I will not be competative. I done my share of racing so to me it's PARTICIPATION now. However, I talked to some boaters and they feel that running (racing)against a boat (V or cat) with 540 displacement, twin blowers with 1000+HP... with a standard HP boat with Merc 500's or 525's (502 disp) there is no competition. These boats will fall in the same class. (Modern, twin up to 1200 cu in.)
You guys looking for more Poker Run boaters to enter but I know the type and we all need a bit more of a hope that the boats we bring would have a beter chance in the race.
Many boaters don't want to beat the shlt out of their fancy HP boats when there is no chance of any "placement" or somewhat of a closer competition.
How about sub classes? HP range to HP range and size range to size range?
Just a thought.
I'm in anyway, and as soon as the boat is finished by these "nvkaj fuvf" guy.. I fill out the form.
P
Just a few of my .02
I am sure you guys thought long and hard about all this but I think the "entry count" is low do to the classes of boats.
I been following the threads and while this is looked upon an event that's a "must in participation" many of the OS and performance boaters are way more competative then most would admit. IE. the Poker Run circuit. The bigger, faster, more muscle the better. THe PR's are always refered to as an "even" ..not a "race", yet many participants act like a racing event. The HOBRA event is an actual race, and I feel there are many boaters shy away since the boat they run has no chance of being competative due to the class designations
I plan to attend strictly to "be there" (if my boat ever get's finished.)
and have bragging right to the event, but knowing clearly that I will not be competative. I done my share of racing so to me it's PARTICIPATION now. However, I talked to some boaters and they feel that running (racing)against a boat (V or cat) with 540 displacement, twin blowers with 1000+HP... with a standard HP boat with Merc 500's or 525's (502 disp) there is no competition. These boats will fall in the same class. (Modern, twin up to 1200 cu in.)You guys looking for more Poker Run boaters to enter but I know the type and we all need a bit more of a hope that the boats we bring would have a beter chance in the race.
Many boaters don't want to beat the shlt out of their fancy HP boats when there is no chance of any "placement" or somewhat of a closer competition.
How about sub classes? HP range to HP range and size range to size range?
Just a thought.
I'm in anyway, and as soon as the boat is finished by these "nvkaj fuvf" guy.. I fill out the form.
P
05-17-2008, 08:02 AM
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nothing personal Mr P, but I'll quote what someone in the industry said to me..." this event is either going to rock, or just plain suck"...If these boaters that you referred to are only coming to "win" then they are truly missing the whole spirit of this event. That being the case they should just stick to their poker runs where they can race a mile or two to the first stop, not get a card then go to the bar, that ego mentality is what will kill this event, now and for the future. this attitude to me is as bad as the racing bodies never agreeing on anything. It is time for them to put their egos aside and just run, enough of the excuses, put up or shut up...
05-17-2008, 08:16 AM
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Charlie, Brad,.. Larry..
Just a few of my .02
The HOBRA event is an actual race, and I feel there are many boaters shy away since the boat they run has no chance of being competative due to the class designations
I plan to attend strictly to "be there" (if my boat ever get's finished.) and have bragging right to the event, but knowing clearly that I will not be competative. I done my share of racing so to me it's PARTICIPATION now. However, I talked to some boaters and they feel that running (racing)against a boat (V or cat) with 540 displacement, twin blowers with 1000+HP... with a standard HP boat with Merc 500's or 525's (502 disp) there is no competition. These boats will fall in the same class. (Modern, twin up to 1200 cu in.)
You guys looking for more Poker Run boaters to enter but I know the type and we all need a bit more of a hope that the boats we bring would have a beter chance in the race.
Many boaters don't want to beat the shlt out of their fancy HP boats when there is no chance of any "placement" or somewhat of a closer competition.
How about sub classes? HP range to HP range and size range to size range?
Just a thought.
I'm in anyway, and as soon as the boat is finished by these "nvkaj fuvf" guy.. I fill out the form.
P
Just a few of my .02
The HOBRA event is an actual race, and I feel there are many boaters shy away since the boat they run has no chance of being competative due to the class designations
I plan to attend strictly to "be there" (if my boat ever get's finished.)
and have bragging right to the event, but knowing clearly that I will not be competative. I done my share of racing so to me it's PARTICIPATION now. However, I talked to some boaters and they feel that running (racing)against a boat (V or cat) with 540 displacement, twin blowers with 1000+HP... with a standard HP boat with Merc 500's or 525's (502 disp) there is no competition. These boats will fall in the same class. (Modern, twin up to 1200 cu in.)You guys looking for more Poker Run boaters to enter but I know the type and we all need a bit more of a hope that the boats we bring would have a beter chance in the race.
Many boaters don't want to beat the shlt out of their fancy HP boats when there is no chance of any "placement" or somewhat of a closer competition.
How about sub classes? HP range to HP range and size range to size range?
Just a thought.
I'm in anyway, and as soon as the boat is finished by these "nvkaj fuvf" guy.. I fill out the form.
P
Paradox....thanks for your thoughts. First of all this race is to honor Don Aronow. That puts a whole different light on this right from the start.
In 1966, the World Championship was won by a boat that was built of cold molded plywood, in secret, in England. It was powered by two exotic Daytona turbo engines that gave it a top speed of almost 90 MPH. The strategy was to get out in front of the pack and then throttle back just enough to keep the lead and the win.
Don Aronow the following year, 1967, won the World Championship by using his own strategy. He built two identical 28 foot Magnums. These boats were basically just a hull and deck. Don powered one with a single sterndrive and the other with three outboards.
Many boats were faster than his two boats. Many boats had bigger engines and more exotic engineering. In the end Don beat them and he beat the ocean and took the championship.
IF...I repeat IF, there were no other place for these boats to run today, we might consider more classes. But you have at least 5 other race organizations that have every conceivable type of class available. If they want that type of class racing let them run there.
We have heard for years about people wanting to run the old style races. Brad and Larry and I have put the grunt work into this to make it happen. There is no golden paycheck waiting at the end of this. We have reached into our own pockets to fund this thing so far.
I know the others share my feelings, this is a first class RACE. Not an EVENT or a CRUISE. We are not going to make 100 classes, just so someone can go home with a trophy without really beating another competitor.
I will be racing in a 23 foot boat with a single engine. I am not starting off feeling that I have no chance. With the Gulfstream currents and the navigation required to get over and back, I fully expect to beat some of those 1,000 twin blower type boats you spoke about.
Anyone else who understands what real ocean racing is about, is more than welcome to join us. Anyone looking for a trophy for just showing up, we don't want anyway. I would be embarassed to have them around in front of guys like Brownie, Mel, Odell, Richie and Bob Saccenti.
05-17-2008, 08:33 AM
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Paradox....thanks for your thoughts. First of all this race is to honor Don Aronow. That puts a whole different light on this right from the start.
In 1966, the World Championship was won by a boat that was built of cold molded plywood, in secret, in England. It was powered by two exotic Daytona turbo engines that gave it a top speed of almost 90 MPH. The strategy was to get out in front of the pack and then throttle back just enough to keep the lead and the win.
Don Aronow the following year, 1967, won the World Championship by using his own strategy. He built two identical 28 foot Magnums. These boats were basically just a hull and deck. Don powered one with a single sterndrive and the other with three outboards.
Many boats were faster than his two boats. Many boats had bigger engines and more exotic engineering. In the end Don beat them and he beat the ocean and took the championship.
IF...I repeat IF, there were no other place for these boats to run today, we might consider more classes. But you have at least 5 other race organizations that have every conceivable type of class available. If they want that type of class racing let them run there.
We have heard for years about people wanting to run the old style races. Brad and Larry and I have put the grunt work into this to make it happen. There is no golden paycheck waiting at the end of this. We have reached into our own pockets to fund this thing so far.
I know the others share my feelings, this is a first class RACE. Not an EVENT or a CRUISE. We are not going to make 100 classes, just so someone can go home with a trophy without really beating another competitor.
I will be racing in a 23 foot boat with a single engine. I am not starting off feeling that I have no chance. With the Gulfstream currents and the navigation required to get over and back, I fully expect to beat some of those 1,000 twin blower type boats you spoke about.
Anyone else who understands what real ocean racing is about, is more than welcome to join us. Anyone looking for a trophy for just showing up, we don't want anyway. I would be embarassed to have them around in front of guys like Brownie, Mel, Odell, Richie and Bob Saccenti.
In 1966, the World Championship was won by a boat that was built of cold molded plywood, in secret, in England. It was powered by two exotic Daytona turbo engines that gave it a top speed of almost 90 MPH. The strategy was to get out in front of the pack and then throttle back just enough to keep the lead and the win.
Don Aronow the following year, 1967, won the World Championship by using his own strategy. He built two identical 28 foot Magnums. These boats were basically just a hull and deck. Don powered one with a single sterndrive and the other with three outboards.
Many boats were faster than his two boats. Many boats had bigger engines and more exotic engineering. In the end Don beat them and he beat the ocean and took the championship.
IF...I repeat IF, there were no other place for these boats to run today, we might consider more classes. But you have at least 5 other race organizations that have every conceivable type of class available. If they want that type of class racing let them run there.
We have heard for years about people wanting to run the old style races. Brad and Larry and I have put the grunt work into this to make it happen. There is no golden paycheck waiting at the end of this. We have reached into our own pockets to fund this thing so far.
I know the others share my feelings, this is a first class RACE. Not an EVENT or a CRUISE. We are not going to make 100 classes, just so someone can go home with a trophy without really beating another competitor.
I will be racing in a 23 foot boat with a single engine. I am not starting off feeling that I have no chance. With the Gulfstream currents and the navigation required to get over and back, I fully expect to beat some of those 1,000 twin blower type boats you spoke about.
Anyone else who understands what real ocean racing is about, is more than welcome to join us. Anyone looking for a trophy for just showing up, we don't want anyway. I would be embarassed to have them around in front of guys like Brownie, Mel, Odell, Richie and Bob Saccenti.
05-17-2008, 08:54 AM
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Thank you.. I do appreciate and understand your comments.
I met Don back in Chicago. early 80's. I'm attending just to be part of this great race. If the Avanti (old Coyote racinig hull By Aronow. IE; Beep Beep) not ready, I'll have take the old Formula. Neither are fast boats but both are good in rough water. I'm to old for trophy hunts and you guys are all right. If "they" don't want to attend.. The heII with them.. I thought it might be some insentive for a few. If you look at some of the HP/OS boat owners, they probobly never heard of the "legends". Personally... I look forward to chat with a few again. Some one should try to contact Don Johnson,, he held the record from Des Moins to New Orleans (on the Miss) long ago. He likes (as I do ) long runs.
I don't know what and who has the Mississippi record now.
Thank you.. I do appreciate and understand your comments.
I met Don back in Chicago. early 80's. I'm attending just to be part of this great race. If the Avanti (old Coyote racinig hull By Aronow. IE; Beep Beep) not ready, I'll have take the old Formula. Neither are fast boats but both are good in rough water. I'm to old for trophy hunts and you guys are all right. If "they" don't want to attend.. The heII with them.. I thought it might be some insentive for a few. If you look at some of the HP/OS boat owners, they probobly never heard of the "legends". Personally... I look forward to chat with a few again. Some one should try to contact Don Johnson,, he held the record from Des Moins to New Orleans (on the Miss) long ago. He likes (as I do ) long runs.
I don't know what and who has the Mississippi record now.
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Reggie isnt gettin back in a raceboat til he wants to go 200mph...check the latest powerboat and the interview with him. or maybe thats what he wants everyone to think...
personally, id like to see Rio make an attempt to show at this. tag on worlds fastest Vee from Miami to Bimini and back, and on the kilo(whenever they decide to do it...)? sounds good to me.
this looks like its gonna be one awesome event, and didnt realize its that close. and cant wait to see who is gonna be there either.
and Paradox, i think it might be Arneson. he had some wild turbine/surface drive prototype Cat run it a number of years ago. thats off the top of my head though...
personally, id like to see Rio make an attempt to show at this. tag on worlds fastest Vee from Miami to Bimini and back, and on the kilo(whenever they decide to do it...)? sounds good to me.
this looks like its gonna be one awesome event, and didnt realize its that close. and cant wait to see who is gonna be there either.
and Paradox, i think it might be Arneson. he had some wild turbine/surface drive prototype Cat run it a number of years ago. thats off the top of my head though...
