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jmbtile 06-19-2008 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by BLAZE (Post 2594296)
4 Greg
Mount Laurel, NJ Reply »
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My family and I were coming home from the BI buoy in Barnegat Bay yesterday afternoon and my son turned around and saw a boat with half the stern under water. I had the whole family in the boat and didnt want to turn around and there were other boats in the area helping out. I check it out with my binoculars and it went completely under and sunk. Just wondering if anyone heard anything about this and if there were any injuries? I had heard that it was a ciggarette boat and it flipped, but that's just word of mouth.
Mary
Roseland, NJ Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#2 Monday Jun 16
Greg wrote:

There were only minor injuries. There was a wonderful family that got to the scene immediately and apparently took the family to the municipal pier where they were met by emergency technicians and the Barnegat and state police. The family was taken to the hospital just to be certain everyone was OK.
Greg
Mount Laurel, NJ Reply »
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Hey, thanks. I appreciate it. I was nervous that there were more severe injuries. Do you know how it happened? Was it a ciggarette boat?
Mary
Roseland, NJ Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#4 Tuesday
The guy took a sharp right, then attempted a sharp left and went over his own wake. Yes, it was a cigarette boat. Found out that the wife did have a fractured right leg I believe.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/fork...J7TCA9JA5BTLPM

I am the wife and no I do not have a fractured leg. We never took a sharp right then left, I should know, I was on it. Where you? I think not. Please, if you want to put crap on this website, why dont you make sure it is correct. By the end of the week, Ill probably be dead and burried from this talk. Irene

VetteLT193 06-19-2008 10:33 AM

I'm glad you are all ok. Mechanical issue? that is the scariest thing that can happen. Take care of your family and don't worry about the speculators here.

jmbtile 06-19-2008 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by jmbtile (Post 2594980)
I am the wife and no I do not have a fractured leg. We never took a sharp right then left, I should know, I was on it. Where you? I think not. Please, if you want to put crap on this website, why dont you make sure it is correct. By the end of the week, Ill probably be dead and burried from this talk. Irene

I do want to thank the family though who did come to help. I also appreciate the people who were concerned about my family and I because it was very traumatic. Thanks to all who came to our rescue. Irene

T2x 06-19-2008 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by jmbtile (Post 2594987)
I do want to thank the family though who did come to help. I also appreciate the people who were concerned about my family and I because it was very traumatic. Thanks to all who came to our rescue. Irene

Okay you were not doing figure 8's...and the operator was experienced. What then happened? Some of us would like to avoid the same circumstances and surely you would like to help others avoid what you went through?

T2x

Xchoke03 06-19-2008 10:41 AM

Thank god you are all ok. There is nothing worse then having to defend yourself from a bunch of people making accusations with no clue of the truth.

Accidents happen, it is not always negligance. Again it is great to know for sure your family is ok.

Ratickle 06-19-2008 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by jmbtile (Post 2594973)
To all who are inquiring about the accident by Manahawkin Inlet. If you were not there I would appreciate the false accusations to stop. I was there and I was ejected from the boat and it was a very traumatic experience. My husband has driven a boat for over 25 years and is the most responsible person i know when it comes to boating. Whoever is giving you information is so unbelievably wrong its not funny. He doesnt even have the make, color or length correct. We were not doing crazy eights and were definetely not out of control prior to this. My children were on board and I would never allow that to happen on anyones boat never mind my own. We are all OK, thank god, just alot of aches and pains. Irene

Very glad to hear all are okay. I have had three friends pitched over, two from broken steering, one from temporary insanity. Take care of everyone and remember not to get too upset at the gossipers if possible.

tgersx 06-19-2008 01:24 PM

i'm glad everyone is ok... i spent a few days with joe down at cobra putting his engines in, he's straight up guy i can't see him driving out of control especially with family on board... glad everyone is ok

Fast Shafts 06-19-2008 01:29 PM

JM,
Which part of my post has "bad information"?? What part of my post is gossip??
I reported what was told to me by witnesses-the people that rescued you! Your rescuers did tell me everyone appeared OK-maybe I should have included that in my post.
Believe it or not, I'm glad no one was hurt!!

Jupiter Sunsation 06-19-2008 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Robert Geoghegan (Post 2595211)
JM,
Which part of my post has "bad information"?? What part of my post is gossip??
I reported what was told to me by witnesses-the people that rescued you! Your rescuers did tell me everyone appeared OK-maybe I should have included that in my post.
Believe it or not, I'm glad no one was hurt!!

Classic case of shooting the messenger!

If I was tossed out of a brand new 500K boat I wouldn't give a rat's azz who was telling the story but I would be pizzed off at the manufacturer/mechanic if it was a mechanical failure vs. operator error.

berns29scarab 06-19-2008 05:02 PM

i was on the bay sunday in a 39 outerlimits. water was average. how did this accident happen ? since those that are involved (jmbtile) are present could you please let us know what happened. i spend alot of time in both a 38 TS Gun and a 39 Unlimited, and would like to know if there is an issue with the boats or something mechanically wrong with yours specifically or was it just an accident...again glad all are OK and a horrible day im sure it was

berns29scarab 06-19-2008 05:04 PM

from what im reading the people that pulled the crew of the boat in question from the water are the people that saw what happened and told Robert Geoghegan what they saw and he simply repeated what he was informed

berns29scarab 06-19-2008 05:24 PM

i've known Robert for sometime and he IS NOT one of those that fabricates things...im sure if my boss told me what HE SAW i would take his word for it as well

jmbtile 06-19-2008 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Robert Geoghegan (Post 2595211)
JM,
Which part of my post has "bad information"?? What part of my post is gossip??
I reported what was told to me by witnesses-the people that rescued you! Your rescuers did tell me everyone appeared OK-maybe I should have included that in my post.
Believe it or not, I'm glad no one was hurt!!

Robert is was not you who I was referring to it was the person who claims they saw us doing crazy eights and donuts because that is so far from the truth and its upsetting to see that written after dealing with what we just went through. We had 2 older adults and three children on board, my husband would never be stupid enough to jeapordize our lives and act like that out on the water. Thank you for your concern though. Sorry if you misread my intentions or if I replied in the wrong spot. I never wrote anything on this before.
Irene

Xchoke03 06-19-2008 09:12 PM

Irene,
With all sincerety I am very very happy your family is safe and sound. When you feel up to it could you please give us an idea how this accident took place. I speant years on the bay in a Cafe Racer and now in my new boat if you could share any info that may save any of us from the same fate it would be greatly appreciated. Was it mechanical ?? Was it just an accident ?? I have heard that the step bottom V's could be wicked if you are ot completely used to them.
Please understand this is not to point fingers but simply looking to learn from an experience of a fellow boater (unfortunately for you a horrible experience) in hopes to avoid any similar situation.

Thanks in advance for your time,
Patrick

wet_rat 06-19-2008 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by Xchoke03 (Post 2594999)
There is nothing worse then having to defend yourself from a bunch of people making accusations with no clue of the truth.

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Wow--that happens on this site too???:eek:

dmaxx3500 06-19-2008 09:38 PM

glad to hear everybody is ok

Fast Shafts 06-19-2008 09:53 PM

JM,
In hind site, I probably should not have repeated someone else's interpretation of the driving style. I apologize.
The purpose of the post was to find out 1) Was it an "offshore" style boat (my boss thinks anything fast on the water is a Cigarette) and 2) Did I know the owner? 3) What happened.
There has been almost 3,000 views of this post-so it appears others also have an interest in what happened.
I also failed to tell everyone that all the kids were wearing PFD's. Again, I'm glad no one was seriously hurt!
Bob

pm203 06-19-2008 10:42 PM

Boy, reading this thread is very upsetting to me. As part of the OSO family, I read and was very interested in watching this boat complete it's transformation. The owner had invested alot of time and money in a dream project that any one of us would have been proud to do. And, he shared that with us with photos and comments. The finished project was incredible. And, now to see what has transpired..... I feel very badly for the family. I am glad that all are ok, but feel awful for their misfortune. I just don't know what to say..........

stecz20 06-19-2008 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2595793)
Boy, reading this thread is very upsetting to me. As part of the OSO family, I read and was very interested in watching this boat complete it's transformation. The owner had invested alot of time and money in a dream project that any one of us would have been proud to do. And, he shared that with us with photos and comments. The finished project was incredible. And, now to see what has transpired..... I feel very badly for the family. I am glad that all are ok, but feel awful for their misfortune. I just don't know what to say..........



i agree, if ya need anything please let us know.... im alwasy around and if you need help with the boat in any way, ill be glad to help and im sure my crew feels the same way.

dave stecz

BLAZE 06-20-2008 05:10 AM

Glad all are o.k.!

jmbtile 06-20-2008 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2595793)
Boy, reading this thread is very upsetting to me. As part of the OSO family, I read and was very interested in watching this boat complete it's transformation. The owner had invested alot of time and money in a dream project that any one of us would have been proud to do. And, he shared that with us with photos and comments. The finished project was incredible. And, now to see what has transpired..... I feel very badly for the family. I am glad that all are ok, but feel awful for their misfortune. I just don't know what to say..........

You have no idea how much this means to my family and I. As much as im afraid of boats at this time it is wonderful to see how many people within this forum are so caring. Im sorry if I insulted anyone, its just hard to read alot of that. Believe me if we can figure out what happend you all will be the first to know. I would never want anyone to experience such a traumatizing event like we did. That boat was my husbands wife, he loved it probably more than me, he would never do anything to jeapordize destroying it or his entire family. He put so much work and care into it, it actually was annoying, but it made him happy and he deserves that. Once the insurance adjusters are done with it maybe we will have more answers. Thank you all again. Be safe. Have a great weekend. Irene

DollaBill 06-20-2008 08:00 AM

I'm happy you're ok. Please let us know what the investigation reveals and don't take any crap from the insurance company

Chris Sunkin 06-20-2008 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by jmbtile (Post 2595977)
I would never want anyone to experience such a traumatizing event like we did.

Then how about sharing what happened so that someone else can avoid a similar experience.

These things don't "just happen". That's a very sea-worthy boat- that leaves equipment failure and operator error. Please tell us what not to do.

LostinBoston 06-20-2008 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2596019)
Then how about sharing what happened so that someone else can avoid a similar experience.

These things don't "just happen". That's a very sea-worthy boat- that leaves equipment failure and operator error. Please tell us what not to do.

Accidents can be embarrasing/confusing whether its the operators fault or not. Maybe he hit something in the water, maybe a drive broke. If you want to learn how to drive a performance boat properly and learn "what not to do", Take Tres Martins class. He talks about being pitched from a boat, warning signs, what to do in that situation and how to avoid it.

Chris Sunkin 06-20-2008 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by LostinBoston (Post 2596025)
Accidents can be embarrasing/confusing whether its the operators fault or not. Maybe he hit something in the water, maybe a drive broke. If you want to learn how to drive a performance boat properly and learn "what not to do", Take Tres Martins class. He talks about being pitched from a boat, warning signs, what to do in that situation and how to avoid it.

It was a rhetorical question. The "us" is us collectively. I'm glad that they're alright but all we've heard is what didn't happen and that all of the reports are wrong. If they hit something, then a "Watch out for floating debris in Barnegat Bay" would be a nice heads-up for some folks.

Puit simply- I'm sorry they had an accident and it's great news that no one was badly injured. But the defensive "we didn't do anything wrong" with no other comment doesn't wash.

stainless 06-20-2008 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by jmbtile (Post 2595977)
You have no idea how much this means to my family and I. As much as im afraid of boats at this time it is wonderful to see how many people within this forum are so caring. Im sorry if I insulted anyone, its just hard to read alot of that. Believe me if we can figure out what happend you all will be the first to know. I would never want anyone to experience such a traumatizing event like we did. That boat was my husbands wife, he loved it probably more than me, he would never do anything to jeapordize destroying it or his entire family. He put so much work and care into it, it actually was annoying, but it made him happy and he deserves that. Once the insurance adjusters are done with it maybe we will have more answers. Thank you all again. Be safe. Have a great weekend. Irene

It looks like they don't know what happened yet, and are waiting for further investigation.

Comanche3Six 06-20-2008 03:42 PM

Just finished reading this thread.
#1 everyone is ok
#2 Holy Chit! This Cig just repowered bigtime.
That mishap was quick! That's a shame.

AIR TIME 06-20-2008 07:55 PM

You should take your kids and hubby on a boat ride soon whether it a cruiser or cig just a small ride so they and you are not spooked forever. when I was 15 we were sking and hit another boat someone died, after a week my friends just about forced me into another boat and I WAS CRYING THAT WE WERE GOING TO HIT A ROCK OR BOAT or SOMETHING but after a while I cooled down it took a while for some of us to go sking again. now 35yrs later I am glad I didn't give up and I saved 2 girls 9 and 12 and there dad and 2 stupid freinds off buzzards bay cape cod in 95 if I hadn't stuffed my boat and got tossed out earlier and headed back to onset they would have drowned We got there right when it sank with no pfds on the kids so with a bad back and ribs I went swimming, but was pissed at the father I almost hit him, his nine yr old was rough shape I put the 2 girls in the cabin until the cg and I tide there boat to cg it was drifting cause the pals gave me a anchor line instead of a dock line:rolleyes: but other sport fishers had to see them taking water over as they passed a CC stopped and ask if we need help I was pissed [because of all the wakes from the SF ]and said yah wave down the other boats to slow down and someone call the CG while I was in the water .:rolleyes:Oh I was asked if I HIT THEM WITH MY CIGAR BOAT:rolleyes:. WELL GLAD YOU ARE ALL WELL PLEASE DON'T LET THIS SINK IN TO YOUR KIDS OR YOURSELF TAKE A FERRY RIDE JUST GET THEM OUT ON THE WATER THIS SUMMER AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO SOMEONE THAT BEEN THERE I WILL LISTEN CALL ME ARTIE AT 617 833 3327 IF I CAN HELP THANK GOD YOU ARE ALL RIGHT TAKE CARE.

prosno 06-21-2008 06:08 AM

God was watching down on you and your family and your all safe and thats what counts.
When you know what happened please post it here because I think we'd all like to know what to watch out for, I have my daughter with me all the time and I am always watching out for her safety.

Shanghied Again 06-22-2008 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by jmbtile (Post 2595977)
You have no idea how much this means to my family and I. As much as im afraid of boats at this time it is wonderful to see how many people within this forum are so caring. Im sorry if I insulted anyone, its just hard to read alot of that. Believe me if we can figure out what happend you all will be the first to know. I would never want anyone to experience such a traumatizing event like we did. That boat was my husbands wife, he loved it probably more than me, he would never do anything to jeapordize destroying it or his entire family. He put so much work and care into it, it actually was annoying, but it made him happy and he deserves that. Once the insurance adjusters are done with it maybe we will have more answers. Thank you all again. Be safe. Have a great weekend. Irene

Irean. I am so happy that everyone is ok. Any material item can be replaced, life can't. I to know the hard work involved with making a project work and then loosng it and all the hard work. Please tell your husband I send my best and thank god everyone is ok.

Tom A. 06-22-2008 10:37 PM

Irene,
Thank God everyone on board is OK. The boat was beautiful, I had seen it a few times, as recently as Memorial Day. It can be fixed or replaced, your family can not. Thank you for clarifying the situation and please keep us informed as to what happened and also how you guys are doing.

Tom Anselmi


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