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Run_em_hard 08-01-2008 02:05 PM

My opinion...I am from the West coast and know the brands pretty well.

Cheetah is a decent entry level boat, as stated before. That one in particular will be hard to resale due to it having a small block.

Warlock is also a decent boat, but very narrow. That being said the cocpit will be smaller as well as the cabin. It is very noticable.

Nordic makes a good boat. I would say that they are a couple steps above Cheetah but you are comparing a 1992 Nordic and 2003 Cheetah. I really like the new Nordics but they don't do the "Custom" gel like other West Coast Boats.

If these boats are all 40k dollars than they are all over priced.

WakezoneINS 08-01-2008 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 2642197)
I wasn't asking you to entertain me. I have enough nutjobs on here to do that for me :). Ok, I'll start another thread questioning the importance of the level of knowledge people have that customers rely on when it comes to lives and large sums of money.

Don't dismiss me. I asked a legit question and was very professional in the way I asked it. I wasn't looking for any comical banter.


Here was my response to your question. i wasn't saying that it wasn't a legit quesiton... just the wrong thread...


You are missing the exact point of my original question. I stated what the BOOK is! I KNOW THE VALUE OF THE BOAT! (what you are saying I don't know by your statement)

I WAS ASKING what to OFFER on the boat! OFFERING A PRICE ON A PURCHASE OF A BOAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME INSURING CLIENTS BOATS.

I do think the tone and the statement you said is absolutly RUDE and uncalled for. My clients here on OSO can attest to my knowledge of my industry and that i know plenty more about insurance on boats than most boat owners do...

I am soooo sorry that I don't know a ton about being a boat BUYER. BUYING a boat and being an INSURANCE AGENT have very little to do with one another. I know the systematic process and steps needed to purchase (which is all i need to know for insurance), but that isn't what I'm talking about.

Apparently on OSO there are such things as a DUMB question and I do take offense to your comment because your statement doesn't make ANY sense. If you read the original question right then you wouldn't have even made your statement.

I would appreciate if you drop your comment and not respond. These guys are helping me, I don't need someone on here when I am asking for help to belittle me or judge me based on my boat buying abilities or inabilities, they have nothing to do with how good of an insurance agent I am.

Just curious... do you have every single value of every single boat ever made in the US memorized... i sure as heck don't... does that make me a bad agent?

Run_em_hard 08-01-2008 02:08 PM

One question...how big of a boat do you want? Are you going to be on Havasu and such?

PARADOX 08-01-2008 02:09 PM

Wake..

I would go with the Nordic for the following reasons. Since it's your "first performance "boat.. The 496's can be bit finickie and harder to maintain. Parts are costly VS. a 454.
The Nordic is a good brand, good boats, I doubt you have a hard time finding some one who would eventually want one. But it is an older boat, however it may be more economical to purchase, and you may "lose less" in the long run.
That's said.. I would look for more boats. There are a bunch out there.. More important then anythng.. YOU must like the boat. Don't buy it for investment, or resale , value.. etc.. Buy it for what YOU like for YOUR use. Good luck

WakezoneINS 08-01-2008 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Run_em_hard (Post 2642210)
My opinion...I am from the West coast and know the brands pretty well.

Cheetah is a decent entry level boat, as stated before. That one in particular will be hard to resale due to it having a small block.

Warlock is also a decent boat, but very narrow. That being said the cocpit will be smaller as well as the cabin. It is very noticable.

Nordic makes a good boat. I would say that they are a couple steps above Cheetah but you are comparing a 1992 Nordic and 2003 Cheetah. I really like the new Nordics but they don't do the "Custom" gel like other West Coast Boats.

If these boats are all 40k dollars than they are all over priced.


The cheetah was the most expensive of them all at $36K. The nordic was around $25K

I appreciate the input! Like I said, i've never been involved with making the actual purchase of a performance boat for myself and just want to make sure I am aware of all angles.

WakezoneINS 08-01-2008 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Run_em_hard (Post 2642214)
One question...how big of a boat do you want? Are you going to be on Havasu and such?


25 would probably be perfect. but I want to avoid the "need to upgrade to a bigger boat" The lakes around Phoenix are small and there isn't much room to really run a boat out here. By the time you get on plane you gotta back down because some jacka$$ jet skier is cutting in front of you or you are passing another boat. It's basically one lane traffic on Canyon lake.

Run_em_hard 08-01-2008 02:14 PM

Some good boats

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...-RAGE-92784935

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...ation-92574657

I have owned 1 Advantage and my father has owned 3. They are awesome West Coast Boats.

WakezoneINS 08-01-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by PARADOX (Post 2642216)
Wake..

I would go with the Nordic for the following reasons. Since it's your "first performance "boat.. The 496's can be bit finickie and harder to maintain. Parts are costly VS. a 454.
The Nordic is a good brand, good boats, I doubt you have a hard time finding some one who would eventually want one. But it is an older boat, however it may be more economical to purchase, and you may "lose less" in the long run.
That's said.. I would look for more boats. There are a bunch out there.. More important then anythng.. YOU must like the boat. Don't buy it for investment, or resale , value.. etc.. Buy it for what YOU like for YOUR use. Good luck

I like YOUR boat in the avatar! ;) in all seriousness... thank you. I appreicate the insight on the 496 vs 454, i wasn't aware of that. That's why I am looking to veteran performance boat owners to help. Thanks!

rlj676 08-01-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by PARADOX (Post 2642216)
Wake..

I would go with the Nordic for the following reasons. Since it's your "first performance "boat.. The 496's can be bit finickie and harder to maintain. Parts are costly VS. a 454.
The Nordic is a good brand, good boats, I doubt you have a hard time finding some one who would eventually want one. But it is an older boat, however it may be more economical to purchase, and you may "lose less" in the long run.
That's said.. I would look for more boats. There are a bunch out there.. More important then anythng.. YOU must like the boat. Don't buy it for investment, or resale , value.. etc.. Buy it for what YOU like for YOUR use. Good luck

As I had stated earlier, I disagree. 11 years newer is a totally different ballgame, even financing that Nordic would be difficult I think, if needed. Also, the HO has 63 hours I believe. With regular maint that should be problem free for a long time. A 16 year old 454??? who knows what you're getting, and it won't be EFI if you don't like carbs either I don't think.

Run_em_hard 08-01-2008 02:17 PM

Another Good boat...

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/-E...EAGLE-93331975


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