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Old 12-27-2010, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS
On Sunday the team went out in brutal sea conditions in the Cowes-Torquay-Cowes race and were in the front again to the half way point battling with Buzzi when drive damage occured to the # 6 drives and 5 blade props and the team had to call it quits. Remember this Pantera 41' is only powered by twin 525 EFI Mercs. In a field of over 30 boats including many legendary rough water boats with much more horsepower the Pantera was way out front giving a strong challenge to Buzzi.

We have offered the team to repair secondary lamination as needed here at our factory but with the long distance between England and the U.S. it is a challenge.Either way it could be repaired here in the U.S. or in England.


Hopefully they will be out racing again this 2011 season.

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Thanks for clarify JO

But did the drive damage had anything to do with the structual damage? Can you please specify the laminations failures?

Here in Sweden we have only the best to say about Pantera
People love the boats, race and/or pleasure.

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Linguine Powered.....LOL!
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another one across the pond but man what ugly colors

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKQGpz07Is&NR=1[/youtube]
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another one across the pond but man what ugly colors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKQGpz07Is&NR=1
What does that have for drives on it?
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Originally Posted by Catmando
I love watching Team Apache and the other big heavy Apaches out on the racecourse stomping down the water and humbling bigger boats in 4-8s and bigger seas. Not many Vs can run with them in big water even now.
I cant argue with that..old Apaches, Cigs, LS Scarabs, Cougars...they ruled the big water for a long time
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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS
The new Pantera 41' built for Ocean Dragon racing team did NOT have "catastrophic" damage done to it. It did not break apart and sink.
I think you'll find I said "massive", not catastrophic!

That would be "massive" as in lots of, not catastrophic as in terminal!

I don't recall saying that it sunk.


Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS


We have offered the team to repair secondary lamination as needed here at our factory but with the long distance between England and the U.S. it is a challenge.Either way it could be repaired here in the U.S. or in England.

The good thing about fiberglass it is all repairable.These things happen when you are taking the equipment to the extreme and really going for it like this team did !!!!
Secondary lamination, that's an interesting way to describe bulkheads etc!
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Originally Posted by tony davis
I think you'll find I said "massive", not catastrophic!

That would be "massive" as in lots of, not catastrophic as in terminal!

I don't recall saying that it sunk.




Secondary lamination, that's an interesting way to describe bulkheads etc!
Primary as in hull lamination
Secondary as bulkheads lamination to the hull.
Nothing interesting about the terminology, just the oppsite.
pepe.
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Originally Posted by tony davis
I think you'll find I said "massive", not catastrophic!

That would be "massive" as in lots of, not catastrophic as in terminal!

I don't recall saying that it sunk.




Secondary lamination, that's an interesting way to describe bulkheads etc!
so your saying this brand new 41 pantera bulk head's broke ?
please explain ect,

post pic's if you have them

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What is the difference between e and s glass? Does one require epoxy like you say Outlerlimits uses?
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S-glass was developed originally for military applications, and is used for surfboards and other high-performance applications. There used to be S-1 and S-2 glass, but I think it is just one grade mostly now. An S-glass laminate can have substantially more strength than a standard E-glass. Composites are hard to throw exact strength/stiffness numbers at because each appliation is different, but some typical values I've seen are about 16000-20000 psi tensile for E-glass and I've seen up to 50000 psi for S-glass. Carbon laminates can get up over 80,000 psi.

I believe S-glass can be used with all the same resins as E-glass, but I would lean toward vinylester or epoxy when using S-glass to make sure everything is bonded well enough to avoid delamination and buckling at the higher stress levels.

During the carbon fiber shortage of 2006 (due to Airbus and Boeing orders sapping up all the supply), suppliers were pushing using S-glass instead of carbon.
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