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T2x 08-13-2008 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by CIGARETTE 1972 (Post 2652078)
don must be rolling in his grave...

I doubt it...He made his money in real estate development originally, and must have known the eventual fate of that spit of land lay in condo's. He would simply have moved on..........like Cigarette has done.

T2x

marinaseeker 08-13-2008 03:00 PM

Artech? They have quite a few lawsuits against them from people who don't want to close. They have been having problems for months. The building looks good, but it is not the highest quality inside. The location is NOT worth over a million bucks. It's down an over built concrete jungle street, with that other disaster ,Marina Lofts, right across the street. You have a school right down the street. Traffic gets horrendous there. Most people who put deposits down on the place, did so at the top of the market. They could not get near a million bucks for their condos now. Thats why the lawsuits. From what I hear, they have many more than 27 units left. I never believe the developers numbers. For the money, there are many better locations to choose from. Half the units in Aventura are either for sale, or being forclosed on. Maintenance and assessments are becoming out of sight.
My Opinion...Not.

lucky strike 08-13-2008 03:11 PM

Looks like a cruise ship in port tied to the dock 4 sure.

BOBCATMATHEWS 08-13-2008 03:17 PM

built with the finest mexican labor, at a fraction of the pay!!!

rainmn 08-13-2008 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by BOBCATMATHEWS (Post 2652955)
built with the finest mexican labor, at a fraction of the pay!!!

Doesn't sound all that different from boat construction. :party-smiley-004:

Strip Poker 388 08-13-2008 03:31 PM

Cash Bar take some picks when ya can

Rob:ernaehrung004:

DollaBill 08-13-2008 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by marinaseeker (Post 2652941)
Artech? They have quite a few lawsuits against them from people who don't want to close. They have been having problems for months. The building looks good, but it is not the highest quality inside. The location is NOT worth over a million bucks. It's down an over built concrete jungle street, with that other disaster ,Marina Lofts, right across the street. You have a school right down the street. Traffic gets horrendous there. Most people who put deposits down on the place, did so at the top of the market. They could not get near a million bucks for their condos now. Thats why the lawsuits. From what I hear, they have many more than 27 units left. I never believe the developers numbers. For the money, there are many better locations to choose from. Half the units in Aventura are either for sale, or being forclosed on. Maintenance and assessments are becoming out of sight.
My Opinion...Not.

Thats the case with all developers and the condo market. Make an offer, all they can say is NO

marinaseeker 08-13-2008 03:38 PM

That was the original gimmick to sell the place......build it to look like a boat....and they would have two Italian yachts on the site. When you bought a unit, you would also have the right for fractionalized use of the yacht at certain pre-arranged times of the year....like a time share. Alleviates the hassle and expense of owning your own boat.....geared to the international buyer.......Now???? Just another struggling, overpriced South Florida Condo development. Hell, ALL developments look awsome in their adds and on their websites.

Jupiter Sunsation 08-13-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by marinaseeker (Post 2652980)
That was the original gimmick to sell the place......build it to look like a boat....and they would have two Italian yachts on the site. When you bought a unit, you would also have the right for fractionalized use of the yacht at certain pre-arranged times of the year....like a time share. Alleviates the hassle and expense of owning your own boat.....geared to the international buyer.......Now???? Just another struggling, overpriced South Florida Condo development. Hell, ALL developments look awsome in their adds and on their websites.

That isn't a great spot by land or water. The canal is an offshoot of the ICW and the access by land has a lot of traffic. It is a cool design but I would want a better view for 1.4mm.

marinaseeker 08-13-2008 05:06 PM

I called a prominent broker in the Aventura area who knows the building and some of the clients well. He told me that many of the things the developer promised didn't materialize. Clients do not want to close. The units are about $400, to $500 thousand dollars overpriced for the area, and the quality of the building itself is poor.


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