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Old 10-31-2009 | 03:38 PM
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Old 10-31-2009 | 03:45 PM
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Apparently then the justice system doesn't acknowledge waivers or SOTW had a poorly written version. It clearly did not stand up in court, who's responsibility is that?

The fact that your organization chose not to continue is the organization's decision, not the familiy's. They continue elsewhere all over this country - ALL knowing the results of this incident.

No I wasn't at any of the legal proceedings, am not an attorney, but based on the info you've presented, I assume the "system" did not consider it an accident and placed the liabiltiy accordingly. Do I think they should have been able to sue SOTW, NO. However, the bottom line is that SOTW did not protect itself adequately either or would have been dismissed from liability.
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Old 10-31-2009 | 04:00 PM
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The thing that bothers me is that one of the survivors sued SOTW and is still treated like some sort of rock star at other poker runs. If I personally held a poker run, and he showed up to participate I would have a real hard time letting that happen.

Mark, I am sorry for your loss, but this is simply a bad decision on your brothers part by getting into a boat that he had no idea or didn't care about the drivers lack of driving experience. I do about 12-15 poker runs per year and I understand that there is risk involved, so I have provided enough coverage for my family in the event of my death. Your brother should have done the same. We all are responsible for our decisions in life. Again, I am sorry for your loss.
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Old 10-31-2009 | 04:35 PM
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Apparently then the justice system doesn't acknowledge waivers or SOTW had a poorly written version. It clearly did not stand up in court, who's responsibility is that?

The fact that your organization chose not to continue is the organization's decision, not the familiy's. They continue elsewhere all over this country - ALL knowing the results of this incident.

No I wasn't at any of the legal proceedings, am not an attorney, but based on the info you've presented, I assume the "system" did not consider it an accident and placed the liabiltiy accordingly. Do I think they should have been able to sue SOTW, NO. However, the bottom line is that SOTW did not protect itself adequately either or would have been dismissed from liability.
No ,the problem is lawyers don’t acknowledge waivers They don’t care what the waiver said They saw insurance money and went after it They don’t have to be right, they just want a settlement of money they think if they bully they will get some settlement even if the waiver is iron clad
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Old 10-31-2009 | 05:32 PM
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Was there a settlement or was it decided by the court (judge)? If settled, why not go to trial?

I agree most ambulance chasing attorneys are the scum of the earth and have exploited the system far beyond intent.
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Old 10-31-2009 | 06:21 PM
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Guys this is going no place. I am going to close this thread. If anyone has any new info pertaining to this let us know and we can open it again but this has gotten ugly.
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