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Old 10-17-2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
The amount paid for the ticket is not deductible as a charitable contribution. They are deductible to the extent of gambling winnings (i.e. its treated as a gambling activity).

The winnings being taxable is a grey area. If properly set up it could be considered a gift (i.e. not taxable), but the general rule would be to treat it as gambling winnings. On another note, if it is taxable - your basis is increased to the FMV or income claimed, so no gain when you decide to sell down the road. If its not taxable you basically have no basis and you'll pay the tax when you sell. They will get you either way.
I bet the winnings being taxable is not very grey to the IRS - and there are very clear IRS laws on gifts - and how much GIFT you can get in a given tax year.

Plan for the gambling rules to apply if you win.
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Old 10-18-2008 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mentalpause
I bet the winnings being taxable is not very grey to the IRS - and there are very clear IRS laws on gifts - and how much GIFT you can get in a given tax year.

Plan for the gambling rules to apply if you win.
As we understand things........Gambling Rules do not apply because of the NON PROFIT structure of the prize and the organiztion behind it.......which is different than winning in Vegas.
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Old 10-19-2008 | 11:06 AM
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As we understand things........Gambling Rules do not apply because of the NON PROFIT structure of the prize and the organiztion behind it.......which is different than winning in Vegas.
Our yearly house raffle is held by the Catholic High School, also non profit. But the winner still gets to pay income tax on the value of the house they win.
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Old 10-19-2008 | 12:40 PM
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Keep it coming I'll have my accountant figure out the tax thing. I'll be happy to win and pay the taxes.
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Old 10-19-2008 | 07:37 PM
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Can't anyone, put what it would cost you if you won this boat, State Taxes and all other expenses, before you could walk a way with it.?
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Old 10-19-2008 | 10:00 PM
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I think that will vary depending on your income level. I would imagine its like adding 100k in income and you would have to pay tax at the end of the year based on you tax bracket and deductions.
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Old 10-20-2008 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mentalpause
I bet the winnings being taxable is not very grey to the IRS - and there are very clear IRS laws on gifts - and how much GIFT you can get in a given tax year.

Plan for the gambling rules to apply if you win.
There is no max on how much gift you can recieve. There is a gift tax on amounts given in excess of 12,000 (24,000 MFJ) which applies to donor individuals, not donees. Gift tax doesn't apply to non-profit organizations.

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Old 10-20-2008 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TSPM
As we understand things........Gambling Rules do not apply because of the NON PROFIT structure of the prize and the organiztion behind it.......which is different than winning in Vegas.
I disagree. I'm a tax accountant and I researched the topic. The laws and case rulings are very specific. Please post some facts to the contrary. I'm sure your contributors would just assume not take your word for it.
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Old 10-20-2008 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
I disagree. I'm a tax accountant and I researched the topic. The laws and case rulings are very specific. Please post some facts to the contrary. I'm sure your contributors would just assume not take your word for it.
I don't believe anyone smart enough to be an accountant would own a boat!!!
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Old 10-20-2008 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater
There is no max on how much gift you can recieve. There is a gift tax on amounts given in excess of 12,000 (24,000 MFJ) which applies to donor individuals, not donees. Gift tax doesn't apply to non-profit organizations.
Our tax advisor told us the different. Plus others I know got the same information we got. We were advised that we are able to gift up to 10K (maybe 12K now) a year to each of the kids, but not beyond that per child. But we can gift more than 10K as long as we have more than 1 receiver.

Now I wonder if that was right?

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