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Hot Knots 09-08-2008 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by mccaffertee (Post 2678678)
The water is unstable and the air is unstable, no matter how much experience one has, there are too many variables involved to "guess" about these types of accidents. Some of the wildest racing footage of offshore racing is BECAUSE of some rouge wave out of nowhere, only some get lucky, others do not - the best of the best have departed unexpectantly, and i am sure that is part of the thrill.

A rogue wave was likely the cause of the Carlos 'N' Charlies rollover in Corpus Christi in 2002 and the fatal accident of Airborne Marine in Biloxi.

LubeJobs42 09-08-2008 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 2678391)
This explanation actually gives some merit to the possibility of the trim malfunctioning as mentioned earlier. Hard to believe an experienced driver would have overtrimmed that much. I've seen a 36 eliminator hit cruiser wakes well over 150mph, so its hard to believe a wake alone could of caused the accident either. Sorry for the speculation, but it appears to be appropriate in this thread.......

The trim pumps for no.6's are very fast. If you hit the wrong button on the throttle or accidently put pressure on the button, that drive could be up in 4 seconds. It happens.
Batgirl was the one that pointed this out and people were quick to attack her statement when this truthfully could have been a contributing factor.

skater40 09-08-2008 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 2678716)
The trim pumps for no.6's are very fast. If you hit the wrong button on the throttle or accidently put pressure on the button, that drive could be up in 4 seconds. It happens.
Batgirl was the one that pointed this out and people were quick to attack her statement when this truthfully could have been a contributing factor.

I agree.After seeing the position of the drives as they put the boat on the trailer,it makes you wonder if he had any work done on the boat recentlY (TRIM PUMPS) that might have been wired incorectly.Reversing the wires so up is down and down is up.Or in the heat of catching up to the other boats did he mistakenly trim the port side up,instaed of down.I speak from experience because i have done the same thing.Sad S ad Sad.

TEAMBAJA 09-08-2008 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 2678716)
The trim pumps for no.6's are very fast. If you hit the wrong button on the throttle or accidently put pressure on the button, that drive could be up in 4 seconds. It happens.
Batgirl was the one that pointed this out and people were quick to attack her statement when this truthfully could have been a contributing factor.

Ive had trim buttons stick on several occassions too!

stainless 09-08-2008 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by LubeJobs42 (Post 2678716)
The trim pumps for no.6's are very fast. If you hit the wrong button on the throttle or accidently put pressure on the button, that drive could be up in 4 seconds. It happens.
Batgirl was the one that pointed this out and people were quick to attack her statement when this truthfully could have been a contributing factor.

I thought the same thing when i saw the boat on the trailer with the port drive way up.:eek::eek:

10x 09-08-2008 07:07 PM

Ya know, alot of you guys are doing alot of speculating of what could of, or what might of happened. I really don't know, so I won't say anything about it. Could the trim pump have shorted out when submerged??? It could have. Did the rescue team raise the drive to get the boat on the trailer??? They may have. Did someone try raising the drives when the boat was pulled to the shoreline, so as not to brake one of them??? and maybe the other one would'nt come up for a mechanical reason??? Who knows, all we know is that it was a terrible tragedy that took the life of someone that we all cared a great deal about, and someone that had a family that loved him very, very much. And for respect toward his friends and family, let's keep all the negative comments to ourselves. I'm sure that's the way Kevin would want it to be left.

Frank

TxHawk 09-08-2008 07:09 PM

Easy on the trim ideas guys. I helped out with a 32 Skater that sunk years ago. After being pulled from the water and getting new batteries, as soon as we turned the batteries on the trim pumps were running unswitched. The only way to stop them was to shut the power off.

skater40 09-08-2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by 10x (Post 2678858)
Ya know, alot of you guys are doing alot of speculating of what could of, or what might of happened. I really don't know, so I won't say anything about it. Could the trim pump have shorted out when submerged??? It could have. Did the rescue team raise the drive to get the boat on the trailer??? They may have. Did someone try raising the drives when the boat was pulled to the shoreline, so as not to brake one of them??? and maybe the other one would'nt come up for a mechanical reason??? Who knows, all we know is that it was a terrible tragedy that took the life of someone that we all cared a great deal about, and someone that had a family that loved him very, very much. And for respect toward his friends and family, let's keep all the negative comments to ourselves. I'm sure that's the way Kevin would want it to be left.

Frank

Maybe you overlooked post #5.That coupled with the photos i saw of the boat running and one other person who witnessed and made the same observation along with the photo of the boat being pulled out at the ramp would lead you to believe there was a trimming issue.No disrespect to kevin-just trying to point out some thing that needs to be looked at closer.Have you ever forgot to put a drain plug in or put the props on the right side or forgot to open your valves that supply water to the sea strainers.I have and you learn from those mistakes.S__t happens .

fountainracing65 09-08-2008 09:29 PM

I agree with 10X. WTF!!! A man is dead. this is a hobby and sport to all of us on this dumb website. Let the pro's figure out what happened and until then leave the speculating to the stock trading of a barrel of oil. It is sad and thats all that need be said. and even if the reports were to come back as driver error lets all respect that and learn from a tragic mistake and not beat it into the ground.

HotPursuit 09-08-2008 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by fountainracing65 (Post 2679017)
I agree with 10X. WTF!!! A man is dead. this is a hobby and sport to all of us on this dumb website. Let the pro's figure out what happened and until then leave the speculating to the stock trading of a barrel of oil. It is sad and thats all that need be said. and even if the reports were to come back as driver error lets all respect that and learn from a tragic mistake and not beat it into the ground.

I agree and have flipped a few myself just was not my time. I will say this I know for a fact you cant run a Skater with that much trim in one side,Kevin would have felt the problem way before the crash. The pressures and force put on the pump bypasses could have caused the same thing.I have blown ram o-rings in rough water and the drive would come up without positive trim.
RIP MY SKATER BRO !!!!


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