Well It is time for a change-Poker Runs and Racing
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I do a lot of smaller local runs. Have seen "no name" people with 60mph boats get kicked to the curb for reckless behavior. I keep seeing people post chit like "big name guy" "well known boat" "elite class" lmao! People like that are not rock stars and no different than me, you or anyone else with a boat. Just deeper pockets and less sense...
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Eventually someone that has a some governmental position in some state will ask "What is a Poker run ?" to someone representing the activity. They will answer with the usual reply that " it's a gathering of powerboats and it raises a bunch of money for charity."
And then that government official will have someone turn on a monitor and run a series of YouTube videos that we've all seen over the past few years and that will be it for Poker Runs. State by state, insurance company by insurance company will act.
The root cause guys will move on to something else to stoke their egos maybe marlin fishing tournaments in Cabo and a bunch of high powered boats will be for sale on OSO at reduced prices.
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And then that government official will have someone turn on a monitor and run a series of YouTube videos that we've all seen over the past few years and that will be it for Poker Runs. State by state, insurance company by insurance company will act.
The root cause guys will move on to something else to stoke their egos maybe marlin fishing tournaments in Cabo and a bunch of high powered boats will be for sale on OSO at reduced prices.
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Eventually someone that has a some governmental position in some state will ask "What is a Poker run ?" to someone representing the activity. They will answer with the usual reply that " it's a gathering of powerboats and it raises a bunch of money for charity."
And then that government official will have someone turn on a monitor and run a series of YouTube videos that we've all seen over the past few years and that will be it for Poker Runs. State by state, insurance company by insurance company will act.
The root cause guys will move on to something else to stoke their egos maybe marlin fishing tournaments in Cabo and a bunch of high powered boats will be for sale on OSO at reduced prices.
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And then that government official will have someone turn on a monitor and run a series of YouTube videos that we've all seen over the past few years and that will be it for Poker Runs. State by state, insurance company by insurance company will act.
The root cause guys will move on to something else to stoke their egos maybe marlin fishing tournaments in Cabo and a bunch of high powered boats will be for sale on OSO at reduced prices.
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Wtf does that mean? Because they show up? Because they throw money around? Because they have an entourage of lemmings? Let me guess... Because they have the coolest chit on the water money will buy? Who ****ing cares aside from the people that are going to profit? The guy with a twenty year old tub that scrimps and saves and works his or her ass off to be there deserves just as much if not more respect.
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Something you guys are missing here......What is to stop someone who is not actually involved in the run (not signed up) run with the registered participants? If you regulate it to death the big boys just will not sign up but they still can make the runs to the stops and no one can stop them. It is not a closed course or illegal. Boat owners rarely enter a poker run for the money....it is the ability to run your boat with other boats in your class/caliber. I will admit I don't have an answer other than boat owners and operators taking responsibility and operating their boat in a safe manner. Period. To explain my point further.....lets say that a poker run organizer sets a speed limit of 60mph for all participants. All of the boats are equipped with gps,s, helicopters above and a pace boat that no one is allowed to pass. Now 5 buddies that are not signed up with the run, with boats capable of over 100, run in between the run...something happens....did all of the safety mechanisms help? The only thing that would be accomplished is that there will be a decreased liability for the organizers.
As I said before I don't have the solution....but as long as it is held in a open public waterway it is nearly impossible to police it.
As I said before I don't have the solution....but as long as it is held in a open public waterway it is nearly impossible to police it.
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Just a reminder.......increasing course safety is a big issue, but I think number one is also making sure participants follow the rules!!! So they don't get lost (buried) in the closed threads, this is the part that most here see as unacceptable poker run participation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AoHBQNqNSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AoHBQNqNSg
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To be one of the boats involved, would be a life changing event for me. I believe it is the same for those who survived this, cruiser included. Up until the moment it all went bad, these boats were having fun at the highest level. You have a list of the usual suspects, call and talk. Next run, offenders buddy up with someone trusted and go from there. Complicated never works
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But... No gadgetry on the planet will solve the problems. Just about everyone in a run goes to the drivers meeting and they pretty much know the routine and the safety issue. That being said... enforcement?? FPC already slapped on an insurance add to the already escalating fees. Is this sport becomes the event for the "bog boys"? seems like it. Gadgetry, choppers etc will just add to the cost.
??? At both Ozarks and LC these events are bigger tourist draws than the July fourth or Labor day weekends.
I take it you haven't been to a Nascar race in the last couple years and noticed that two thirds of the fans are watching and listening to their drivers telemetry via a smart phone. A free app that kicked out a boat/driver profile with picture as that boat passed the spectators position along with current and top speed for the day would be on most every spectators smart phone in a minute.
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