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Old 10-31-2008, 03:14 PM
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damn I could not have put it any better than that !!!
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Old 10-31-2008, 05:37 PM
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Good point and I don't know anyone in any business who would make anything without willing customers.

Stop blaming the "exploiters"...and put the focus where it belongs on personal responsibility and the rampant lack thereof in our "Liberal/Democrat" ( Marxist) society.

I have never taken a handout and never will. I , therefore don't need Obama or his slimy ilk. You apparently want to feed the "hungry", clothe the "needy", and house the "homeless". We already have enough "programs" to do this 10 times over. But the left...and you apparently..... want more, more, more....of my money.

Yeah...this is personal...not your utopian socialistic bull crap!

I pay close to 50% in taxes...... a six figure sum....

which is probably 10 times what the average Obama supporter pays.............if they pay anything at all.

Where does it end...... with me in chains...while fatherless families feed on my bones? Who will pay for their "needs" when real people who actually build and earn something are trampled by the Left wing thugs, liars, spinners, pundits, reporters, "neighborhood organizers", radicals, educators, actors, dictators, "activists", politicians, and other sewer dwellers............ and you are left with nobody paying the bills.

You may be backing an election winner because you'll never go broke underestimating the American voter.....but, in the end you are also backing a losing proposition.

Stick it where the sun don't shine.....

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Just to be 100% clear:

So you're not voting for Obambi?

Correct?

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Old 10-31-2008, 06:52 PM
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Just heard a boat builder declared bankruptcy that people are very familiar with. Fact or fiction?
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:41 PM
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Good point and I don't know anyone in any business who would make anything without willing customers.

Stop blaming the "exploiters"...and put the focus where it belongs on personal responsibility and the rampant lack thereof in our "Liberal/Democrat" ( Marxist) society.

I have never taken a handout and never will. I , therefore don't need Obama or his slimy ilk. You apparently want to feed the "hungry", clothe the "needy", and house the "homeless". We already have enough "programs" to do this 10 times over. But the left...and you apparently..... want more, more, more....of my money.

Yeah...this is personal...not your utopian socialistic bull crap!

I pay close to 50% in taxes...... a six figure sum....

which is probably 10 times what the average Obama supporter pays.............if they pay anything at all.

Where does it end...... with me in chains...while fatherless families feed on my bones? Who will pay for their "needs" when real people who actually build and earn something are trampled by the Left wing thugs, liars, spinners, pundits, reporters, "neighborhood organizers", radicals, educators, actors, dictators, "activists", politicians, and other sewer dwellers............ and you are left with nobody paying the bills.

You may be backing an election winner because you'll never go broke underestimating the American voter.....but, in the end you are also backing a losing proposition.

Stick it where the sun don't shine.....

T2x
Oh Boy - Richie is on the warpath again - go get um Richie - sickem !

You were never "short" on words Richie - go get em !

Phil

PS - can you imagine Al Franken in the Senate - between that and "O" - its going to get really rough - if you think times are bad now- just wait till they start really spending your money !

At least its only 2 years until we vote again -!
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:41 PM
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Let's all hope that no one or entity becomes a fatality or dying breed in these incredibly stressfull economic times, especially Mercury. Even though their practices and attitudes have been a pain in the gut for some boaters who use their products, they are still the cornerstone of this industry and sport and I can't even imagine what the high performance boating community would look like without them! This will be a wake up call for them too! No one is immune from bad business practices even the 800lb. Black Gorilla!
They will suffer during these times from their own form of arogance, GREED and feelings of immunity!

The one important lesson to be learned here is that is was GREED, ARROGANCE, STUPIDIY, SHORT SIDEDNESS and lack of COMPASSION or CARING that really that has really brought the US way of life to a dangerous brink! on todays economic and social terms.

Lets not spend to much energy placing to much blame and weeping over the past. The time is now for this industry and the rest of this nation to get off its big (somewhat spoiled and lazy ) butt and get on with the business at hand.
Replace those who think only about themselves and whats in it for them! Redevelop the successful long term business models that made this nations economy the great machine it still can be, learn from our mistakes and the past. Try to not repeat bad history and be committed to the idea that as a group we are strong and risilient and that no one will benefit from feeling sorry for ourselves or crying about whose responsible! We let it happen, we are a Democracy and a lot of Americans sat by fat and complacent and also thought mostly about themselves. We are still the captain of this ship and we can steer it off the rocks, patch the hull and get underway again, less a few rats that need to be thrown off the ship and made to swim in the sewer society they tried to create.
Think Great Thoughts, Do great things, Use your intelligence, Work Hard, never sacrifice honesty or your consideration or compassion for just another buck and above all be a good example to your friends, family and Children! and lets get to work and not fail because of the stupid actions of a few! The future is the prize and we can overcome todays old history!

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Old 11-01-2008, 10:41 AM
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Good point and I don't know anyone in any business who would make anything without willing customers.

Stop blaming the "exploiters"...and put the focus where it belongs on personal responsibility and the rampant lack thereof in our "Liberal/Democrat" ( Marxist) society.

I have never taken a handout and never will. I , therefore don't need Obama or his slimy ilk. You apparently want to feed the "hungry", clothe the "needy", and house the "homeless". We already have enough "programs" to do this 10 times over. But the left...and you apparently..... want more, more, more....of my money.

Yeah...this is personal...not your utopian socialistic bull crap!

I pay close to 50% in taxes...... a six figure sum....

which is probably 10 times what the average Obama supporter pays.............if they pay anything at all.

Where does it end...... with me in chains...while fatherless families feed on my bones? Who will pay for their "needs" when real people who actually build and earn something are trampled by the Left wing thugs, liars, spinners, pundits, reporters, "neighborhood organizers", radicals, educators, actors, dictators, "activists", politicians, and other sewer dwellers............ and you are left with nobody paying the bills.

You may be backing an election winner because you'll never go broke underestimating the American voter.....but, in the end you are also backing a losing proposition.

Stick it where the sun don't shine.....

T2x
Welcome to the UK that's exactly what Labour have done they've always been just full of spin, you earn more by claiming than by working and if your an immigrant, Gordon Brown will give you more than he earns ... only in the UK ... As I don't live in the USA I am not making a statement who I would vote for in your place

Check out the links bellow regarding benefits paid and there is probably many like it here you would probably need to earn over 300K to take home that sort of cash here

http://tpa.typepad.com/media/2008/10...un-mother.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m.../16/do1604.xml
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Racist...no...

Confused...yes...

Obama can't do any worse than the last 8yrs. of financial, social and foreign policy chaos...

Besides...The rest of the developing world and many of the republican elite are finally getting away from the conservative rethoric and are openly backing his campaign...

We need a different set of eyes..

And you know the old saying...

"A thousand Frenchmen can't be wrong"...

BTW...went to go vote today...NEVER saw that many people lined up for an early vote...

Regardless of outcome, the electorate has been energized, informed and engaged...

Now who's gonna take credit for that???

Divenstar

Aside: I really hate discussing politics in public...It's like loaning money...Eventually you lose friends...
thee yrs ago my house was worth 650,000then the DEMS took over congress the last to years my house is back to 450,000 like in 01 when I bought it.Obama will be the death to us and our country, if you want to bet that in two years there will be NO CHANGE in our country I'll but up 500, or 1000. if johnny boy gets in we will see a change for the better same bet or lunch.Iam just worried a lot of skulls will come out of the closet after he.s in obama look his aunt is on boston housing she is here illeglly of coarse he knows nuthing. hey I have a big family, so he knew. later art
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I have a recovery plan for brunwick;

Start selling NXTs as a stand alone drive/transom package


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and sell there motors and other drives/parts at a good price for what they charge for a 525 you can buy a 700hp and up motors from other great builders and the same with there bigger motors SAW A NEW 1075 WITH 60 HOURS go poof at the start of a pokerrun this summer and the guy was not happy with them before the run. I'll take a DEAN GELLNER/ ZUL/ TEAGUE/PAUL PFAFF and the list goes on over a merc.
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Let's all hope that no one or entity becomes a fatality or dying breed in these incredibly stressfull economic times, especially Mercury. Even though their practices and attitudes have been a pain in the gut for some boaters who use their products, they are still the cornerstone of this industry and sport and I can't even imagine what the high performance boating community would look like without them! This will be a wake up call for them too! No one is immune from bad business practices even the 800lb. Black Gorilla!
They will suffer during these times from their own form of arogance, GREED and feelings of immunity!

The one important lesson to be learned here is that is was GREED, ARROGANCE, STUPIDIY, SHORT SIDEDNESS and lack of COMPASSION or CARING that really that has really brought the US way of life to a dangerous brink! on todays economic and social terms.

Lets not spend to much energy placing to much blame and weeping over the past. The time is now for this industry and the rest of this nation to get off its big (somewhat spoiled and lazy ) butt and get on with the business at hand.
Replace those who think only about themselves and whats in it for them! Redevelop the successful long term business models that made this nations economy the great machine it still can be, learn from our mistakes and the past. Try to not repeat bad history and be committed to the idea that as a group we are strong and risilient and that no one will benefit from feeling sorry for ourselves or crying about whose responsible! We let it happen, we are a Democracy and a lot of Americans sat by fat and complacent and also thought mostly about themselves. We are still the captain of this ship and we can steer it off the rocks, patch the hull and get underway again, less a few rats that need to be thrown off the ship and made to swim in the sewer society they tried to create.
Think Great Thoughts, Do great things, Use your intelligence, Work Hard, never sacrifice honesty or your consideration or compassion for just another buck and above all be a good example to your friends, family and Children! and lets get to work and not fail because of the stupid actions of a few! The future is the prize and we can overcome todays old history!

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar
Yes, I'll say it...

Ray for President...

Forward thinking, forthright and logical in his well written posts...

The world (and this BBS) need more people like him...

Maybe...just maybe...we'd have more love & understanding for one another...and less hatred & strife...

Great job Ray...

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