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johnnywhip 11-09-2008 02:28 AM

Some Do
 

Originally Posted by p729lws (Post 2734517)
Except the bank doesn't repo your car 3 days after you miss a payment...

Some will at 1 minute late. It's legal in most states. You don't want to know HOW I know...lol...whip

johnnywhip 11-09-2008 02:37 AM

Oh Really
 

Originally Posted by Pure Energy (Post 2733838)
You realize your used car dealer license is now in jeopardy?

How do figure that his car dealer license is in jeopardy?? I really would love to hear your logic on this!! Please! whip




Sorry to most here but I just can't resist some of these statements!

nordic95 11-09-2008 03:11 AM

4:11 am and the meeting of the minds has ended.:ernaehrung004:

prostock85 11-09-2008 03:57 AM

:drink:

cig1988 11-09-2008 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by THEJOKER (Post 2734783)
Orange County, California. Steve has worked in high end custom car audio stores from Southern California, Oklahoma, Missouri, Utah and most recently opened his own store "Stereo Warehouse" in Albertville, Alabama.

I bet a little background check in these states would turn up some more good reading.

Yeah...that say's alot right there. Con's usually do not stay in one place very long. I would imagine it would suck looking over your shoulder every minute of the day.

How to be a con man
I could read about con men and tricksters all day.
"I could sell **** at an anti-scat party," he says, "you have to figure out someone's wants and needs and convince them what you have will fill their emotional void." A con man is essentially a salesman -- a remarkably good one -- who excels at making people feel special and understood. A con man validates the victim's desire to believe he has an edge on other people.
It requires avid study of psychology and body language. It's an amazing paradox--a con man has incredible emotional insight, but without the burden of compassion. He must take an intense interest in other people, complete strangers, and work to understand them, yet remain detached and uninvested. That the plan is to cheat these people and ultimately confirm many of their fears cannot be of concern.

Noun: con man (con men) kón man
A swindler who exploits the confidence of his victim
- confidence man, con artist

Pete280 11-09-2008 06:38 AM

this may have been said before, but did LDD call PS on the 12th or 13th demanding payment? He mentions that PS never called him but if he had a an impending deadline on a contract wouldnt you call the other party? fact is, he knew what he was going to do and wanted to let the date pass.

TOASTY 11-09-2008 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by prostock85 (Post 2734861)
:drink:

does this mean that the issues have been resolved?

Back4More 11-09-2008 08:42 AM

Looks like the Rabbit hole goes pretty deep....

Pure Energy 11-09-2008 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by johnnywhip (Post 2734857)
How do figure that his car dealer license is in jeopardy?? I really would love to hear your logic on this!! Please! whip




Sorry to most here but I just can't resist some of these statements!

It's called DISCLOSURE. If you don't know what it means and it's relevance to this situation then maybe you should resist.

bouyhunter 11-09-2008 09:22 AM

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Anyone see a similarity? I couldn't stand this show.:party-smiley-004:

Powerplay25 11-09-2008 09:34 AM

Ldd was banned on this site previously and banned on S + F. He sounds like a real gem.

I'd say there are some pretty good judges of character on this site. It seems to be about 200 to 1 against him. Yet he continues to post and plead his case. Give it up dude.

Talk about Karma. He chased Tripple Digits off this site and chased him on S + F until they kicked him off. How does it feel?

Do the right thing and give the money back. Don't hold someone else's feet to the fire because you overpaid for a boat.

Boomer35 11-09-2008 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by long duck dong (Post 2734008)
First and formost I had no other contractual obligation after the contract had expired....nuff said there.


There you go...

if you read below it seems you did.. is this another lie?



Originally Posted by long duck dong (Post 2733715)
here are the FACTS...

Prostock agreed to pay $26,500 for the boat...see contract

Prostock sent me $14,000 deposit, we both acknowledge that..

Prostock NEVER sent remaining balance as agreed by the due date...

I ended up having to sell the boat on ebay for $17,600.00

As someone else suggest Prostock should be responsible for the losses and fees and I should not profit from the deal...the math is simple.... $17.6 + $14k = 31,600.00 recieved toward chris cat sale... $31,600 - $26,500 (agreed price) = $5100 Refund to Prostock...

I offered more than that to settle this, they refused....I'll wait for my day in court....and I havent lost a wink of sleep over the last 6 months that Prostock hasnt contacted me, HE STILL hasnt contacted me.....Just Nordic95....

Prostock has NO EXCUSE for not contacting me for the last 6 MONTHS......and has NO EXCUSE why he still hasnt contacted me...

[QUOTE=Boomer35;2733751]Here are the facts:

You put yourself in a financial binde by counting your chickens before they hatch, you played mr baller with someone elses money to buy a fountain at some stupid interest note, you didnt have to "give" or "short sale" that chris cat because of prostock, you had to do it because of your own poor choices, now just man up and make it right so you can actually use the boat you own without looking over your shoulder wondering who is going to drop you or pull you around by your little beard chin strap into a dark alley......


QUOTE]

this gos with the above qoute


Originally Posted by long duck dong (Post 2734427)
As for the rest of you..... Your looking totally at one perspective....

I had obligations to cover with my Fountain and Prostock had an obligation to cover with the Chris Cat..... When Prostock didnt cover his obligations on Friday when he was supposed to I had to scramble to cover my obligations to my Fountain by Monday. When he didnt contact me on Saturday or Sunday to let me know anything, what am I supposed to do loose my Fountain on Monday morning?.... So Monday he shoots me a PM saying now he wants to pay in full but he already forced me to make other arrangments and it was too late.... I realize that Monday was the next "business day" but Prostock has no excuse for not calling, PM'ing, or emailing me over the weekend to work something else out...he waited until Monday, which by then was too late....

There are allot of you who are in business that would have done the same exact thing I did to save yourself from loosing your boat.... There is NO WAY you would risk loosing property over someone else not meeting their obligations....

After the due date came and went and other arrangments were made is when Prostock started to claim undisclosed damage in an effort to justify not meeting his obligation...

Prostock knows the "REAL" story....so again I invite Prostock to contact me DIRECTLY to reach an arrangment.....


Boomer35 11-09-2008 09:37 AM

i will start, collect, and head up any fund we (OSO) wants to put together for a lawyer for prostock to put this scum bag in his place, i dont care if it cost more than the 14k he is owed, this whole thing for some reason really has me burning

i just hope some day i am at the same bar or on the same lake as LDD

nordic95 11-09-2008 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by TOASTY (Post 2734902)
does this mean that the issues have been resolved?

NO,It just means that prostock made it home from our meeting that ended at 4 in the morning.Our little social group got together last night for bible study and to discuss and plan our presentation for the lawyer tomorrow.:drink:

prostock85 11-09-2008 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by bouyhunter (Post 2734968)
Anyone see a similarity? I couldn't stand this show.:party-smiley-004:

They both failed??:snide:

bluellama 11-09-2008 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by johnnywhip (Post 2734857)
How do figure that his car dealer license is in jeopardy?? I really would love to hear your logic on this!! Please! whip




Sorry to most here but I just can't resist some of these statements!

The boat in question was owned by Extreme Remarketing, his used car business. It will not be LDD in court, it will Extreme Remarketing.

bouyhunter 11-09-2008 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by prostock85 (Post 2734999)
They both failed??:snide:

Chin strap used car salesman.
Think about it.
Can you actually take a guy like this seriously in a business transaction?
Just by the way they carry themselves I would getting the feeling that I'm getting screwed somewhere.
That's why I would've walked.
The guys a tool, and needs to make things right and give PS back the money.
But that's just my opinion. But, I tend to strive to be a moral and honest guy - not everyone does.

raiseyourdrive 11-09-2008 11:01 AM

As for Missouri court's...here is the link https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/ca...earchType=name

TEAMBAJA 11-09-2008 11:07 AM

Well, at least I learned something from this thread.

Chin Strap Beards! Never heard that before. Funny sh*t!

bouyhunter 11-09-2008 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 2735031)
Well, at least I learned something from this thread.

Chin Strap Beards! Never heard that before. Funny sh*t!

Have you ever met someone sporting one that wasn't a TOOL???

I didn't think so.

Pure Energy 11-09-2008 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by bluellama (Post 2735002)
The boat in question was owned by Extreme Remarketing, his used car business. It will not be LDD in court, it will Extreme Remarketing.


Ldd stated on pg.3 that HE owned the boat not the business.

Pure Energy 11-09-2008 12:41 PM

Just been corrected, boat was owned by the business. My appologies!

nordic95 11-09-2008 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 2734980)
i will start, collect, and head up any fund we (OSO) wants to put together for a lawyer for prostock to put this scum bag in his place, i dont care if it cost more than the 14k he is owed, this whole thing for some reason really has me burning

i just hope some day i am at the same bar or on the same lake as LDD

Its funny you mention that because I have had many people that said they would like to donate to the cause so that they could feel as if they had a part in the outcome.But I have no idea how that would even work.

t500hps 11-09-2008 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2735075)
Its funny you mention that because I have had many prople that said they would like to donate to the cause so that they could feel as if they had a part in the outcome.But I have no idea how that would even work.

My $.02 and simplest form I can think of......if anyone is interested, send a check to Prostock. Prostock cashes checks in the order they are recieved in order to cover legal fees....once this is settled, Prostock could/should have some checks leftover that were never cashed. Return them to the sender, or donate them to the cause/legal bills of the next OSO'er to get screwed.

Boomer35 11-09-2008 01:41 PM

Long Dong where are ya?

lakedog350 11-09-2008 01:47 PM

probably shaving his chin strap beard so no one recognizes him out on the streets/water:party-smiley-004:

ROTAX454 11-09-2008 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by bluellama (Post 2735002)
The boat in question was owned by Extreme Remarketing, his used car business. It will not be LDD in court, it will Extreme Remarketing.

Extreme Remarketing. Is that just another name for
Fantastic Flipping ? Think about it. Just what happened here.

xxl1rr 11-09-2008 02:28 PM

LDD are you telling me you dont recall talking to me??? LMAO u POS!!!!!!!

Prostock, i dug up my phone records to prove that i was talking to LDD i dont know if this will help? also have proof that i withdrew the 18,000 from the bank... also that i put it back in 4days later... Some one said in a post that LDD probably made a bill of sale for the 17,600.... NOT the 20,600 it sold for... I would bet that this it TRUE!!!! HE brought up doing the same for me, when we were talking.....

I tried to call you today Pro S left you my # call me whenever you want....

William[/QUOTE]

89Mach1 11-09-2008 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by long duck dong (Post 2734505)
There is no issue with the contract....

FYI..

because Prostock sent wire transfers as specified in the contract, he was obviously in acceptance of it's written terms, no matter how poorly written he accepted it and the terms within it by abiding by its provisions... Then Noridc95 or Prostock cant remember which....posted that on the 2nd deposit he sent an additional $2k because he was going to pay it now or later, so he sent it then instead...



NO ISSUES??? First off the "contract" does not have any witness signitures and was not signed before a certified notary. Good luck "Pal"..... The only thing that contract is good for is if you run out of toilet paper. wow...

AIR TIME 11-09-2008 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by FASTTIMES (Post 2733361)
SO THE BOAT WAS SOLD TO ANOTHER PARTY???????? I didn't have a chance to read the other thread before it was ceased

Either did I the dif should be sent to pro stock as long as the boat was sold for thr same price or higher, if sold for less than minus the funds. artie ps this is sad

RunninHotRacing163.1 11-09-2008 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=TEAMBAJA;2735031]Well, at least I learned something from this thread.

Chin Strap Beards! Never heard that before.


Chicks sure dig em ,especially when ya leave enuf for the Kitty tickler LMAO :eek::ernaehrung004:

cauzmik 11-09-2008 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by 89Mach1 (Post 2735146)
NO ISSUES??? First off the "contract" does not have any witness signitures and was not signed before a certified notary. Good luck "Pal"..... The only thing that contract is good for is if you run out of toilet paper. wow...

That's exactly what I said earlier...if you sign a contract for a car / house / boat / lawnmower ...renting a house...you are obligated to have a witness present ....who's to say you didn't forge that signature? The judge is going to work you hard for WASTING HIS TIME...

Take it from someone that is much older than you....you would been better off paying prostock his 14,000 back and an extra 1,000 to keep this off the forums.

Now you just in for a ride you have no control over...enjoy the road rash LDD!

Shawn D 11-09-2008 06:24 PM

I ususally don't get into some of these peer goverening threads, but this is insane.
So LDD, Just what did Prostock get for $14,000. Not a fu king thing. as others say - you sleep OK at night?

You are a Dirt Bag. Unbeleivable

Nordic & others involved,
I sold a boat through the classifieds and bought another from a member here. Both deals were straight up honest Gentlemen like. This site's members typically are a lot of great people who call out & have no patience for frauds.
Thanks for taking the charge.

nordic95 11-09-2008 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by AIR TIME (Post 2735171)
Either did I the dif should be sent to pro stock as long as the boat was sold for thr same price or higher, if sold for less than minus the funds. artie ps this is sad

Please remember that PS did offer to pay for the boat in full the day after the contract expired.LDD told him it was to late the the boat was already sold"SAME DAY".But then he listed on e-bay weeks later:eek:By then he short sold it because he already had 14,000.00 in cash in his pocket and he still had a loan to pay off.He even stated this to XXI1rr when he was asked why he was selling for such a price discount he said he got to keep the deposit of another buyer.XXI1rr had no idea what the deposit was till much later when he read it here.Thats why he is involved now.

Nordic95

nordic95 11-09-2008 06:59 PM

So LDD claims to be broke,will have to make payments to PS if an agreement was reached.But then he goes and post some of his toys over on the other site to brag how good he is doing.:mad:Steve I told you a few times you really need to watch what you say and do,you dig your own hole.

http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthr...t=11533&page=5


See post #67


Anthony

pshannon 11-09-2008 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2735243)
So LDD claims to be broke,will have to make payments to PS if an agreement was reached.But then he goes and post some of his toys over on the other site to brag how good he is doing.:mad:Steve I told you a few times you really need to watch what you say and do,you dig your own hole.

http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthr...t=11533&page=5


See post #67


Anthony


Ya thats my thread I started over there, I was waiting for one you to see all of his toys he posted up...

heavyhauler 11-09-2008 07:47 PM

I don't agree with LDD on keeping more than he would legally be entitled to (and he may have been leagally entitled to keep all the money), guess we'll know in a few years after it goes through the court system, but what I would like to know is if PS85 was willing to pay the debt in full 3 days after the deadline, what kept him from notifying LDD on or before the balance was due to see if he could make other arrangements for time extension or why did he not pay him on or before the money was due inasmuch as he knew he already had $14,000.00 on the line. With $14,000.00 on the line if he couldn't meet the deadline, he would be in a lot better position now had he attempted to make other arrangements prior to the deadline, and if undisclosed damage were a concern to PS85, and that is the reason for not concluding the deal prior to the deadline, he should have sought a legal remedy prior to the deadline to secure his interests.

Now that all that has passed, it's just a pissing match.

Hind sight is always 20-20, and many lessons to be learned by dealing with OSO members. I've got my sign to prove it.

Hot Boat 11-09-2008 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by nordic95 (Post 2735243)
So LDD claims to be broke,will have to make payments to PS if an agreement was reached.But then he goes and post some of his toys over on the other site to brag how good he is doing.:mad:Steve I told you a few times you really need to watch what you say and do,you dig your own hole.

http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthr...t=11533&page=5


See post #67


Anthony


I noticed that only his chevy truck has a license plate.
What a phony

Indy 11-09-2008 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Magicfloat (Post 2734580)
Give it all back,all 14K,that is the right thing to do.

Nothing else to add to this. There is no other action that a person of morals and decency would do...period. Hiding behind a piece of paper is despicable.


Originally Posted by Powerplay25 (Post 2734850)
Ldd just give the kid back the $14,000. How can you live with yourself ripping off someone else's inheritance?

Don't you have any character?

Agreed...people like this just make me lose faith in the human race sometimes. My dog had better character...and that statement is not a joke.

cauzmik 11-09-2008 09:44 PM

Adj. 1.unethical - not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior; "unethical business practices"
wrong - contrary to conscience or morality or law; "it is wrong for the rich to take advantage of the poor"; "cheating is wrong"; "it is wrong to lie"
ethical - conforming to accepted standards of social or professional behavior; "an ethical lawyer"; "ethical medical practice"; "an ethical problem"; "had no ethical objection to drinking"; "Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants"- Omar N. Bradley


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