First and foremost thinking that a insignificant forum thread is going to be enough for a slander case is a laugh....There were no threats to you and the internet is basically free roam from a typing stand point....

Second I find this...

"its easy to spend everyone else's money on legal counsel, court fee's, and so on...."

Funny.....you should deff know about spending others people's money...

In a sad way LDD I feel bad for you....I've been through a divorce myself and times can be rough...After seeing you do this to others on a different site I can't be sure, but if you used the money and "did this" because you badly needed it, WHICH STILL DOESN"T CONDONE IT" I could see maybe why....

but most people with a heart would give the money back in this situation....you keep telling him to man up..maybe you should?

As for the point about people not making payments on a boat and the bank taking it and selling it for more, giving the small difference back....That has no relevance here...That is for someone who outright OWES the bank money....If the contract failed you had the right to sell the boat right away. You still had to refund the rest of the $12,000 to prostock...it says nowhere that was non-refundable!

The correct thing and MATURE thing for you to do in this situation was to call him up and discuss an extension of the contract date...maybe he couldn't make his payment by that day due to some unfortunate reasons...this could have been solved so many ways and only now are you willing to "talk" per say....Hire a lawyer...Go put up your case...and let's hope America's justice dept does what it was put into place to do...help people solve disputes with each other....

I think you would both be smart and your lawyers would agree to leave this off the boards now! Goodluck to both of you.....

and when this is done LDD...you will no longer be "welcome" on these boards....the petition has started! People can join the petition by writing on this board "add me to the petition"...That is how we will keep this topic alive

Except the bank doesn't repo your car 3 days after you miss a payment...

My thoughts exactly

How do you sleep at night?...

I've been reading this story since this all started .I feel money is hard to come by right now. If it was me I would give it back so if that meant you couldn't boat because you were doing the right thing so be it. A friend of mine bought the boat from LLD and I know that if it wasn't priced as cheap as it was he wouldn't of bought it so it seems to me that you would of lost the fountain anyway. Do the right thing and give him his money back .

You are an absolute fool!!!! Your bad financial decisions are nobody's fault but your own!!! If the contract was breached then you had every right to sell the boat 1 minute after the contract expired. Then you return prostocks money except the $2000.00 deposit. If you feel entitled to penalties then you take prostock to court.

Your contract was totally 1 sided. As I stated before you are obligated to disclose that you are a used motor vehicle dealer. If you decide to go to court you are going to get your ass handed to you on a silver platter!! And guess what, you don't get to keep the platter!!!

Show us what a man you are and pay back the money!

LDD, if you believe you are right, stop thrashing wildly at EVERYONE. No one is here to "get" you.

Shadowcat30, Can you please email me since you have PM's turned off
[email protected]

LDD you know as well as I do that I never slandered you in any way shape or form.I have spoken to you like a gentleman each and every time we have spoken.I explained to you how I felt about what you did to PS and thats why I got involved.I basically begged you to meet his agreement terms of 8000.00 and you keep the rest.I sympathized with you on the phone about your divorce and that times are slow in the car biz right this minute.You told me you make all your money Jan thru April,tax time as you said.I explained that PS was willing to wait for the money as long as we had an agrement signed and you could pay him off over the next few months.I even offered for you to write your own terms and conditions on this payment plan.And you told me to go F-off!!!!!! I think the jury has already spoken and I have not even finished my presentation of the facts.There are some absolutely outstanding people here on this board.It dont matter how much money they make they are all willing to help in any way shape or form.I have received e-mail from officers,marina's right in your back yard and probably about 30 concerned members from here and OTHER boards.You bought this all on yourself.You are 100% positive that you and your contract are right then why ask for PS number now.I really think its a little to late.We are meeting tonight to draft up all the paper work for the lawyer and Im sure you will have your day or DAYS in court.So unless you want to talk about sending all the money in full to him I dont think its worth the phone bill.You have my cell and we will be together tonight if you want to talk.Like I told you many many times,I think your a good guy and just got caught in a financial pickle and I really wanted you to do the right thing before we came on here.Sorry for any inconvience this may have cause you.I will continue the presentation to the board in a few.

Anthony Rogosich
1-732-921-3355 24/7

LDD & prostock, both you guys made errors in this deal. The right thing for LDD to do is refund all monies (-) $2k. Prostock, you should be more cautious when conducting business... especially several states away. Chalk up the $2k loss to a hard lesson learned.

If you guys go to court the only people that will come out winners are the attorneys.

Good Luck!

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LDD I hope you are right.......


Prostock deserves to be sitting back reading threads on OSO with a pocket full of cash:angry-smiley-044:

It's obvious from this thread and his pic that lld is one of those fly by night used car salesman who doesn't give one crap about morality or doing the right thing. He only mentions contract. It don't matter what the circustance, a person has to lack all intergity to keep anything beyond the 2K initial deposit.

Keep this thread at the top forever so others know this is a person who will play a game at others expense. I hope you get what's coming to you douchebag (and you will) both in divorce and civil court, you could have ended this long ago by simply doing the right thing regardless of what prostock did or did not do or what a contract did or did not say. You have no argument nor chance in hell at winning here or in court.

I love how steve wants prostock to call to make arangements. What arrangements, keep the 2000 and give the guy his money back, He is just trying to smooth talk his way out of giving it all back at one time. Steve when you buy a car at the auction or from a new car store. Do they let you make payments? I don't think so. You can't keep floating this guy.

To nordic, call the manhiem and adesa auctions and check out what kind of credit lines he has and let the auction F and I people know that he is not paying his bills

No dog in this fight,don't know either party,but here is my opinion,and you know what they say about opinions. Give it all back,all 14K,that is the right thing to do. But if you disagree,then consider this.You may still walk away for 14K,but if you keep going like you are going,your out of pocket costs will probrably be way,way more than 14K. If you don't want to refund it cause it is the right thing to do,then do it because 14K is the least amount it is going to cost you if you continue. The issue at this point is how much do you want to spend,14K or a lot more?It's your call at this point,but that window may be rapidly closing.

BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone could be the next victim.Here is LDD boat that he bought for 22,550.00 and this could be for sale soon.Check out the quality repair:eek::eek::eek:


http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthread.php?t=9661

LOL.....it wasnt $22,550...lol but you have your sources and I know the guy who I got it from would have told you to "F" off if you contacted him....

quality repair?....hasnt given me a problem since....If you think thats the only problem in that boats history you have ALLOT more diggin to do.....

Your "info" is falling apart and now your digging for anything you can hold on to or throw at me.....despiration is a stinky colonge my friend and you wear it well...I hope you and the Jersey boys have a good meeting tonight....your gonna need it....

For a detail oriented guy you sure are slow on the draw Anthony....kind of disappoints me

thats not a repair that should be fixed by some guy in his back yard,but if fixed on the inside and outside it should be ok,but ive seen too many guys cut too many corners,,good luck

Sheesh your a idiot.. Just keeep digging your hole fool.

If prostock needs help with attorney fees I for one am willing to donate to bury this fool!

Posted by LDD's buddy Cathouse on Boatfreaks.......
"Outside of anyone else posting on this forum, I HAVE SEEN the damage first hand. I have been in the boat. Some of you are making this what it is not! I sold the boat to LDD. It seems that some of you like having a "Whippin Boy". (He might have brought that sheet on himself sometime ago) Seems as though (from what I read) the most qualified to make any assumptions is "Offshore Ginger". I really don't know any of you, but have read post for quite sometime before becoming an advertiser and getting envlolved. Offshore Ginger, if you need any other information about the damage, call me at the shop. I would like to share the information with you so that repairs can be made to best benefit LDD. I'll be there all day tomarrow."

You'd think his good buddy CatHouse wouldn't hold a "longshark" type note over his head for a day delay in payment.

HMMMMMMMMM

Do the right thing . Give the money back. I'm a firm believer in "what goes around comes around". As said before. How do you sleep at night? This is just wrong!

Cathouse got paid for the boat when I picked it up.....which was before I even talked to Prostock.....Are you really that ignorant that you couldnt figure that one out after reading all these posts?......I bought the Fountain before I sold the Chris Cat....that has been well established.....Are you serious??....OHHHHH I see the problem...sorry

So help me out, since you seem to be the bright one.
What arrrangeements did you make to cover the ballon payment on the Fountain over the weekend that couldn't have waited till Monday afternoon. You already had ProStock's money, which it appears you directed towards the party holding the note on your Fountain, then you Ebay'd your boat, which didn't result in a sale, then you sold your boat to somebody off Ebay.
How did any of this get you any more money than you already had on the Monday when ProStock called you to offer you the rest of the payment in full.

I'll give you this, you keep track of stories better than TrippleDigits, but you are no where near as interessting, and at least all he sstole was people's time.

LDD you always forget who you are dealing with.Never quote anything that you dont have written in front of you.I have the e-mail between Steve H and PS.The e-mail is dated 5/23/08 two days after the original deposit was received,again you are WRONG.Steve did not "DISCLOSE ANY DAMAGE" but he did give an honest opinion about the boat.No damage was ever mentioned in the e-mail.PS did tell Steve that his responses would remain confidential so I will not post the e-mail. TRY AGAIN LDD.

Anthony

This paragraph raised a flag to me. Just from what I've read in this thread, I'm betting you sold the boat for more than $17(whatever)K, but finished the ebay auction at that price, marked all the paperwork at that price, and on paper completed the deal at that price. The guy caught a break on taxes, and you got bogus paperwork so if the **** hit the fan on stealing prostocks money, you'd have BS numbers to throw out. THAT makes sense as to why you think it's a game to see if anyone can turn up the current owner, and are confident that he will go along with your bogus sale price.

How'd I do? :food-smiley-007:

Im sure the court will subpoena the owner for the info

While they were working in the cabin they found a way to turn the hour meter back!!!!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ml#post2327102


#s/ 32 & 36 :angry-smiley-038:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/b...ml#post2342492

#52 Wow dude---Amazing posts! Shows ur real colors!

12-19-07, 03:38 PM #22
Long Duck Dong
IH8MUD Junior


Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Albertville, Alabama
Posts: 186 Thank Adam

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Thanks for everyone's patience....

Guys this is the busiest time of the year for my other business (I'm a car wholesaler) and I have been extremely swampped and havent had time to even get my x-mas shopping started.

You are the biggest pathological liar of all time. I thought December was your slowest time of the year?

PAY UP , MAN UP , You will not get away w/ this. Just give the guy his money back.

I say we start a caravan to alabama and make a visit to steve. Remember its alabama so he could be with his new girlfriend/sister.

doesnt matter to me. here is the email. btw, im not sure why i didnt mention the dock rash but i probably assumed PS saw the same pics i did and already knew about it.

UPDATE

We left off where Prostock sent LDD the second payment.


After the second payment was received by LDD prostock was still requesting the full survey and LDD kept saying it was in the mail.If you read the post here on OSO under the Chris Craft section see SELLING CHRIS CAT CHEAP.Youll see LDD was still waiting for his survey from when he bought the boat.Now I dont have the phone conversation to prove this but again this will be referenced to in the PMs.During the last coupls of days before the end of the contract PS came acrossed some pictures over on Boat Freaks that LDD posted showing some damage that he did to the boat and trailer at two seperate times.See the links below. After finding this damage PS questioned LDD about it and LDD told him that the axles were fixed and new axles installed.As for the hole in the boat LDD told PS its nothing and should only take 2 hours to fix.Again this is refereced to in the PMs.So after no survey,seeing pictures of damage that was not disclosed to him he started to question the integrity of LDD:eek:.PS asked in his PM if there was anyway he could just pay the last payment when he came to pick up the boat so he could see the damaged areas for himself.I would also do the same.More to come.





http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthread.php?t=9347
http://forums.boatfreaks.org/showthread.php?t=8984

Thanks Nordic95

LDD where was this damaged mentioned in this e-mail:mad:
Again another lie by LDD
And thanks Steve for posting this.

Robert, AKA magicfloat, does a used car dealer in your state have to have a dealers bond? How would prostock go after LDD leagally

O yea one more thing.LDD claims to have opened his current buisness back in 1998.But his previos buisness was started installing in 1988 and started Stereo Warehouse in 1998 same year of ER.He is 33 years old,so that means he started installing custom stereos in his own when he was 13?????????? :party-smiley-004:HMMMMMM


http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...tail/1632.html

Anthony

nordic95,

I got an email from LDD today asking me for contact info and what i had told PS about the boat in case the info was needed in court. my answer to him was from memory and i wasnt exactly sure what i had said to PS 6 months ago. anyway here is what i sent to LDD. as you can see i said i DID mention the dock rash when in fact i hadnt.

the dock rash doesnt seam like a big deal for a boat in this price range so im not sure why your bringing it up....

not until tonight did i find the email i had sent to PS 6 months ago.

Orange County, California. Steve has worked in high end custom car audio stores from Southern California, Oklahoma, Missouri, Utah and most recently opened his own store "Stereo Warehouse" in Albertville, Alabama.

I bet a little background check in these states would turn up some more good reading.

do the right thing your reputation is well worth $14k+, well now you prob dont have enough $$ to restore your reputation...
And to claim your contract was fair and well written...oh goodness.
We build loft apts in the city of Philadelphia, take many deposits. At times some lofts cant be finished in time and people want thier $$ back. They know full well they have signed a non-refundable deposit contract HOWEVER out of the 5 clients whom wanted thier deposit of 10k -50k- 100+++k returned WE GAVE IT BACK...! ITS not worth the bad press to stick someone. NOT on crash boxes, boats or houses. not solely about a contract well drafted, or timelines, now it has to do with all, plus being a good man...
PRO Stock you needed to have assistance, should have gone to look at the boat be more on your game as well. this is a huge learning curve that cost some $$
if you need help in your next purchase or want to grab lunch in NJ mail id be happy to listen!

Chris Del Collo
[email protected]

Ldd just give the kid back the $14,000. I could understand if you kept the intial $2,000 deposit.

How can you live with yourself ripping off someone else's inheritance?

Don't you have any character?

I'm amazed your not banned from this site.

Arrogant bastard!