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[QUOTE
what is really really really confusing to me is this: On Monday 6/16/08 he offered you full Pay, you said no you had other arrangments, then a week later 6/23/087 you put in on EBAY and sell it, so really you had no other arrangement, your only arrangment was to keep prostocks 14k, and then Blow the boat out for anything more than what prostock owed you for it, any dollar more than what prostock owed you for it that you could get from EBAY was like added and above profit for you considering you thought you were going to keep his 14k that my friend is one of the dirtiest things i have ever seen =Boomer35;2733860]in other words, sell it once and keep 14k on what you think is owed to you by breaking a contract, now you have 14k plus a boat, sell the boat for 17k, and now (in your head) youve sold the boat for 31k... am i wrong?[/QUOTE] Long Dong Duck, can you respond to my 2 qoutes? |
I sure wish I could do that to all my dead beat coustmers:mad: |
Originally Posted by long duck dong
(Post 2733793)
Speakers are on backorder until after the first of the year, this is out of my control...offered to refund anyone who contacts me....enclosures are built and waiting speakers....
Brian, you have no room to talk pal.....Taking an old boat mold and slapping a new name on them is hardly being a boat manufacture.....trust me there are plenty of people that dislike you too buddy....so dont throw stones at a glass house... cause one day you will be sitting in the same seat I'm in....trust me .... your time is coming from some people that were involved with prototype..... |
ugh...
this thead is going nowhere... time to lock it. both are waiting for their day in court. |
Did LDD start the first thread and why?
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Originally Posted by long duck dong
(Post 2733991)
What makes you think I owe money?
I'm not saying this transaction or the result of it wil break you. I'm saying that when you continue down this path in life it will catch up with you. When it does catch up with you, they will take everything you own to pay back the people that you wronged. That being said, my hunch is that you in fact DO owe money. No one in their right mind takes a high interest 30 day loan to buy a boat (if that is true). Especially nobody who has good credit and no debt. At least admit that you are keeping his money because you needed it to keep you afloat and now you don't have it to give back. Putting on airs that you don't need the cash isn't fooling anyone. Seriously, it makes me sick to my stomach that you think you can justify keeping this guys money because of 3 days. SCUM BAG. |
Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2733997)
what is really really really confusing to me is this:
On Monday 6/16/08 he offered you full Pay, you said no you had other arrangments, then a week later 6/23/087 you put in on EBAY and sell it, so really you had no other arrangement, your only arrangment was to keep prostocks 14k, and then Blow the boat out for anything more than what prostock owed you for it, any dollar more than what prostock owed you for it that you could get from EBAY was like added and above profit for you considering you thought you were going to keep his 14k If Prostock had just shown up or kept his end of the contract like he was supposed to this wouldnt be happening.....Lets not forget this is roughly 5-6 months ago....has his phone been lost, broken, stolen or otherwise that long?.....I surely didnt run and hide out from the boards...
Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2733997)
in other words, sell it once and keep 14k on what you think is owed to you by breaking a contract, now you have 14k plus a boat, sell the boat for 17k, and now (in your head) youve sold the boat for 31k...
am i wrong?
Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2733997)
Long Dong Duck, can you respond to my 2 qoutes?
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I think that prostock could go after his dealer bond. If the boat was bought with the dealer checkbook. Start contacting the local new car stores so he can't buy there trade-ins anymore
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Originally Posted by Shore Thing
(Post 2734006)
That being said, my hunch is that you in fact DO owe money. No one in their right mind takes a high interest 30 day loan to buy a boat (if that is true). Especially nobody who has good credit and no debt.
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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
(Post 2734003)
Did LDD start the first thread and why?
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Originally Posted by t500hps
(Post 2734012)
Yes....It appeared he wanted to "out" Nordic95 and another member (can't remember who now) that was contacting him trying to get this resolved behind the scenes. I believe LDD thought he was in the right and wanted to shame Nordic95 and the other member for sticking there nose in this transaction......it kinda back-fired on him.
I'm done with this boys...... My legal counsel is trying to get in contact with the party's involved now....so as always we'll see how this works out.... See You! |
Originally Posted by long duck dong
(Post 2734008)
First and formost I had no other contractual obligation after the contract had expired....nuff said there. At no time prior too the end of the contract did Prostock EVER contact me to push the date back, make other arrangements....I expect business as usual....Only AFTER he didnt meet his end of the contractual obligation did he raise any issues....Again Time and Date stamping on our PM's/emails can prove....I was however forced to make other arrangements in which is not the business of this board.....but will come out in court should it take us that far
If Prostock had just shown up or kept his end of the contract like he was supposed to this wouldnt be happening.....Lets not forget this is roughly 5-6 months ago....has his phone been lost, broken, stolen or otherwise that long?.....I surely didnt run and hide out from the boards... I offered to refund the difference of the $31k collected and the $26.5k asking price for a total of $5100....they declined There you go... |
We really need to lock this down and let LDD get back to work....he's got at least $12K to come up with in the next few days!!! :)
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prostock you would be crazy to settle for a dime less than 14k once this airs out!
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Originally Posted by t500hps
(Post 2734020)
We really need to lock this down and let LDD get back to work....he's got at least $12K to come up with in the next few days!!! :)
Dean |
Originally Posted by long duck dong
(Post 2734011)
You obviously dont know what a floor plan is....
I know what a floor plan loan is, and it means that you are financing your inventory. It also means that you sold this item as a dealer and not as an individual. some questions this triggered in my head..... Did you sell this item as an individual or as a dealer? Was prostock aware if he was dealing with an individual or a dealer? I wonder if his lawyer is aware? Is this your scam? when i catches up to the business, you shut it down and open under a new name? I wonder how many businesses you have owned in the past? |
Originally Posted by t500hps
(Post 2734020)
We really need to lock this down and let LDD get back to work....he's got at least $12K to come up with in the next few days!!! :)
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ldd i have been sitting here and reading this entire ordeal and if you were a respectful person and not a scum bag going around ripping people off especially for that much money you would give him back at least 12 grand difference since it was a 2000 non refundable deposit....and you lied about damages to the boat and the trailer while you knew that he was going to tow it all the way back to northern new jersey.........you should be removed from this forum again because people are here to help others not screw them over
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[QUOTE=pshannon;2733855]Ok so we all get it LDD is a dirtbag fraud but my question is why was prostock such a pu$$y?? Why did he not contact LDD in 6 months? Did he really not need the money? Who gives 14k as a down payment? You give 2k as a down then get a check from the bank or where ever for the rest in one big payment. I'm sorry but if someone took 14k from me I would be kicking down there front door and getting my phucking money!![/QUOTE That pretty well sums it up for me too.
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Originally Posted by Strip Poker 388
(Post 2733998)
I sure wish I could do that to all my dead beat coustmers:mad:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJ0SkbPxAk[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuAVgWJ28Hw[/YOUTUBE] |
just make it right man, and shave your face, that thug wanna be chin strap chit is for losers
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frank that was funny......
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Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2733854)
what is really really really confusing to me is this:
On Monday 6/16/08 he offered you full Pay, you said no you had other arrangments, then a week later 6/23/087 you put in on EBAY and sell it, so really you had no other arrangement, your only arrangment was to keep prostocks 14k, and then Blow the boat out for anything more than what prostock owed you for it, any dollar more than what prostock owed you for it that you could get from EBAY was like added and above profit for you considering you thought you were going to keep his 14k that my friend is one of the dirtiest things i have ever seen, Nordic95 |
L.D.D. Is your legal counsel a “real” lawyer? If so I would seek another opinion.
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I think the word here is "opportunism".
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Hey guys I just got home from work and see that many of you are just catching on.I received some interesting phone calls today from another member that were screwed over by LDD on the same boat.I also heard that the e-bayer that we thought bought the boat on e-bay also did not recieve it for some reason,im still looking into that to see if true or not.But that the boat actually sold to a third party for much more????I see some one put a post responce to his CAT FOR SALE thread here on OSO and asked why this boat has been sold over and over.We need to look into this also.
PS: PLEASE KEEP ALL PERSONAL THREATS TO YOURSELF!!!This is not a place to threaten anybody and Im sure we will have a settlement soon.We need to keep this thread up and running so all can be warned. Thanks Anthony |
Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2734037)
frank that was funny......
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Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2733997)
[QUOTE
what is really really really confusing to me is this: On Monday 6/16/08 he offered you full Pay, you said no you had other arrangments, then a week later 6/23/087 you put in on EBAY and sell it, so really you had no other arrangement, your only arrangment was to keep prostocks 14k, and then Blow the boat out for anything more than what prostock owed you for it, any dollar more than what prostock owed you for it that you could get from EBAY was like added and above profit for you considering you thought you were going to keep his 14k that my friend is one of the dirtiest things i have ever seen =Boomer35;2733860]in other words, sell it once and keep 14k on what you think is owed to you by breaking a contract, now you have 14k plus a boat, sell the boat for 17k, and now (in your head) youve sold the boat for 31k... am i wrong? Sorry folks, but if you have not put the pieces together yet, it is a long tale of misrepresentation and deceit. A judge will not care as will none of us if the bottom line is that their was an unethical attempt to collect more than the asking price and make additional profit. If not, the ethical person would have said pay me several thousand for the inconvenience and relisting, interest due, etc. and once I sell the boat to another party I will refund the difference. There was personal gain in the entire thought process here and the point is, this site is suppose to be about camaraderie and gaining valuable information from fellow boaters and I do not see that this was the path chosen. Good luck to both parties and good riddance to the guilty party which is pretty safe to assume is holding money that he does not deserve nor ethically have a right to!!!! Sadly enough, quotes of contracts, statements of lack of communication, etc. etc. have no bearing on a situation that reeks of unethical business behavior!!!! Sorry, I have been a business owner for 17 years and this is not how you run an honorable business.... BTW, my avatar shows my boat being sold!!!! Was listed on this website and a buyer was sent pic after pic and was bought sight unseen and the money wired to my account the day before the buyer flew in to pick it up. When he went on the water test before towing it back to the east coast he detected a small miss in the port motor which I instantly said let's get fixed. It was diagnosed by our mechanic immediately as a $200 fix and I promised to have him stay over til it was fixed the following day or I would have the part overnighted to his mechanic and pay all the labor. He even said what if I don't want to buy it, I told him I would have his money wired back and I would wait for the next happy buyer. I paid all the expenses, both was represented perfectly and I have a friend on the east coast for life that invites me to boat with him any time I want and can stay with him for free. Sorry for long speech, but do the right thing and it comes back to you five-times over...... |
not my fight......
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Originally Posted by long duck dong
(Post 2351113)
I have tried to lay off posting on this thread after allot of my posts have gone unanswered and I felt like I was wasting my time....I'm fairly new to the board and I always try and input where I can or have some know how.... If I was located closer to most of you I would be the first one at your house or shop if you needed help. Or I would open my shop to you to use for whatever you needed help with
When I first came to the board I purchased some equipment from someone who really got screwed by Fred. I had no idea who Fred or Trick Marine was. I posted a small fraction of what I was told and immediately got flamed up by the Fred Cecil/Trick Marine Nut-Huggers....Thats right I said NUT HUGGERS aka Flag Waivers..... and I sort of backed away from the board....after I paid for my membership I certainly understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I choose to look for the positive when listening to someone else's point of view....but I always know in the back of my mind there is always a negetive when you have a positive. I hope that everyone on this board has learned a SERIOUS lesson from the practice's of Fred Cecil/Trick Marine as we all sort of go through the aftermath that has been left for us to figure out on our own. The lesson to be learned here is that people are people and no one is perfect, we all make mistakes. If someone has a bad dealing with someone you need to let that voice be heard without flaming that voice up or sweeping the thread under the rug or deleting the thread. It doesnt matter if they pay to advertise here or your a personal friend or whatever.... I personally enjoy this community and it has done allot to cure my endless stock in boredom that my wife and I have aquired over the short and cold winters together. I hate it that people have lost money and reputation value over someone like Fred Cecil/Trick Marine and I wish the people who have fallen victim to Fred/Trick Marine the best in recovering what you can. ed |
Originally Posted by stecz20
(Post 2734057)
not my fight......
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ah nevermind!
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I still say prostock should go against his dealer lisense and or bond.
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I need help finding the new owner of this boat.How can we track them?I just spoke with another party who called and left a message this morning so I just called them back and they told me they had a dealing with LDD on this boat and got screwed.He is willing to testify,donate money for a lawyer,sign a affidavit, or any combination of the three to help out.He also informed me that this boat sold for much more then LDD is telling us.So we need to find them and ask them for help.
Thanks Anthony |
Originally Posted by Sea-Dated
(Post 2734064)
Never stopped you before.....:party-smiley-004:
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Holy chit u guyz are still at it :party-smiley-004:
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How old is Prostock85? Everyone here keeps calling him a kid.
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Originally Posted by 99fever27
(Post 2734073)
How old is Prostock85? Everyone here keeps calling him a kid.
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Guys....the guy isn't worth the time nor the space of our message box's...This needs to be addressed by the people involved...if your interested in helping out contact one of the 2 sides involved....voicing threats and calling names are not going to help this or prostocks case. Please refrain from posting negative things...let's get together and help a community member beat someone who has obviously been doing this to others as well.
LDD, we will see you in court! GOODLUCK |
What would be helpful is if we could contact the new owner. Anyone have photos of the boat in question????? Maybe someone would recognize it.
:worthless_without_p |
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