so ethics have nothing to do with it huh?

Don't settle for anything. My attorney just e-mailed me and said contract isn't worth zilch. I'll hook you guy's up tomorrow. It's on me prostock85!

Thats exactly what he told me on the phone.He explained to me that he is 33 years old and didnt reach this statis in life playing mr nice guy.BUISNESS IS BUISNESS and the kid loses.

just mind your own...hows that?...let the people involved take care of grown folks business and quit fueling the high school drama club...

Thanks JOKER :ernaehrung004: He can call me if he wishes for all the details and paper work.

1-732-921-3355 cell

Call you tomorrow morning. zzzzzzzzz night night gang. Hope you sleep well LDD!

Unfortunately, ethics and laws don't always line up. If someone could get those two things on the same track, the world would be a better place.

I hope this gets resolved in a manner where both parties are satisfied.

One last question before I go to bed.I have an E-BAY item number.But ebay says the item is no longer stored on file or something like that.Its the number I beleive to the sale of the cat and I may need this for evidence.Is there any way to retrieve this info from E-BAY?????

Anthony

whats the #

200234004030

sold for $17600.00 29 bids 6/30/08

http://www.ebaypopular.com/archive/2008-06-30/6038.html

I cant find it

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DUDE! How can you justify that much money on a sale that didn't happen? I would really like to know. The one thing that cannot be bought is a good reputation. I have lost quite a few bucks in my life when I wasn't wrong to avoid souring my Rep! These were caused by low lifes that were sleazy along similiar lines. I have dubbed this as reputation tax. How much is your reputation worth? This is something that can and propably will follow you to your grave(not a threat but meaning it will plague you the rest of your life). Please do the right thing!

Got it and already saved with the 23 pages of info I have already saved.Not a bad days work,since 2 pm this afternoon we reached 7 pages,138 post and almost 2200 views.Nice work guys and thanks for all the support.

good night:cool:

I think I've realized after reading this that maybe one of the reasons I'm not rich man is because I have a conscience, and I try to be a moral man.
If I could shirk all that I'd be wealthy 5 yrs ago.
I wouldn't change a thing.
Integrity and respect don't have a price.

I second that . Now Im going to bed and Ill have a good night sleep.

Sleep well. - isn't it nice that you can?

More than likely he doesnt have the money to pay him back. :mad: However looks like he has enough assets to cover the bill.

I sold car once that I considered to be in immaculate condition. A week or so after the sale, the new owner called demanding his money back. He did some searching and found out the car had been pieced together, something I didnt even know because it looked flawless. In the meantime, I had already spent the money on another car and didnt have any spare money back then. I ended up taking out a loan to make it right with this guy to buy the car back even though I had done nothing wrong.

LDD
I have no dog in this fight but right or wrong contract or no contract this is NOT chump change. Why not start a poll stating the facts and let this be the deciding factor? If this was me he would have received his money back along time ago. I sleep well at night...do you?

Dong's real problem on this is that his actions clearly constitute bad faith. I don't know of a state in the union where actions of bad faith aren't provided the remedy of treble damages. $12K becomes $36 grand.

Like they say, it's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop.

here are the FACTS...

Prostock agreed to pay $26,500 for the boat...see contract

Prostock sent me $14,000 deposit, we both acknowledge that..

Prostock NEVER sent remaining balance as agreed by the due date...

I ended up having to sell the boat on ebay for $17,600.00

As someone else suggest Prostock should be responsible for the losses and fees and I should not profit from the deal...the math is simple.... $17.6 + $14k = 31,600.00 recieved toward chris cat sale... $31,600 - $26,500 (agreed price) = $5100 Refund to Prostock...

I offered more than that to settle this, they refused....I'll wait for my day in court....and I havent lost a wink of sleep over the last 6 months that Prostock hasnt contacted me, HE STILL hasnt contacted me.....Just Nordic95....

Prostock has NO EXCUSE for not contacting me for the last 6 MONTHS......and has NO EXCUSE why he still hasnt contacted me...

just another example of a tough guy trying to be something that he is not, you can only **** people over for so long before the house of cards falls, what a loser.

WOW my buddy " Duck Little Dong " is a crook and an idiot who would have known ? ME
Look back at posts from last year on this moron. I had him banned from OSO and he weaseled his way back in. At the time I posted the thread about banning him I got a few PM's agreeing with my feelings about this guy but was more surprised by the members that stood up for him on the thread.
Duckey if you do not want your family brought up on the net you should not have put up your crying thread on Boatfreaks and made it public.
Bottom line you are a cheat and liar and the road you are heading down is what you deserve.
My bet is that you have no money to return as I am sure you spent it on your boat and new party pad.

As I explained in post #71 it was your bad decision to buy your fountain a week before you even talk to prostock about buying the cat. which is why you had to short sale the cat to pay off your loan shark and the 30 day note. prostock offered to pay the boat in full the next business day after the contract ended. If you would have just done the right thing by letting him pay the balance in full you wouldnt be in this mess

[QUOTE=dirtlawyer;2733520]Let's hope his wife (or soon to be ex-wife) treats him like he has treated others...

Hey Dirt , I believe the dog in the fight is Steve @LDD lets not bring wife, X,family,kids into this ..... :angry-smiley-038:

Here are the facts:

You put yourself in a financial binde by counting your chickens before they hatch, you played mr baller with someone elses money to buy a fountain at some stupid interest note, you didnt have to "give" or "short sale" that chris cat because of prostock, you had to do it because of your own poor choices, now just man up and make it right so you can actually use the boat you own without looking over your shoulder wondering who is going to drop you or pull you around by your little beard chin strap into a dark alley......

if nothing else make it right so you can use your boat still,

I bet Fred Cecil (trick marine) has not been on a poker run or even a boat in 3yrs, is it really worth losing that?

If this is true and that is a BIG if, than I can see both sides. a CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT, A DEPOSIT IS A DEPOSIT AND YOUR WORD IS YOUR BOND. I would never have sent that big of a deposit if I did not have the money to follow through. ALOT of companys would not even consider giving back your deposit when you can't complete the contract. Now I would of gave the money back and considered the guys word the next time he told me he wanted to buy something. There is three things that bother me about the whole thing. 1 is why did ldd not sell to him the next day if the guy had money in hand and he did not sell it yet. 2 why did prostock give him $14k when he did not have the rest of the money, 3 why has prostock not been calling ldd.

I agree w/ gsmith.
Also, these 2 are $2500 apart from an agreement.
Neither of these 2 parties will be getting that amount after the lawyers are done w/ you.

why should that kid be out 6k if LDD didnt disclose damages?

[QUOTE=RunninHotRacing158;2733741]
I never said anything about his kids... just suggested that he deserves to be treated the way he treats others.

In hindsight, probably not an appropriate comment.

The date of purchase of my Fountain has nothing to do with the sale of the Chris Cat. I purchased the Fountain before Prostock offered to buy the Cat.

Contract was written to MY time frame on when I had to pay my loan on the Fountain....Prostock agreed and signed the deal.

Prostock didnt pay by the date 6/13/08 (Friday) and didnt offer to pay the balance until 6/16/08 (Monday)..... It might be "one business day" but there was two days (Sat & Sun) he could have picked up the phone and say he needed to work out something different....by the time Monday rolled around other arrangements had been made...

Anthony, you too are withholding information to make me look like the bad guy....Like stating it was "ONE DAY" later I shut the door....In fact it was 3 days later and Prostock hastn called me since he sent the $12k....ALMOST 6 MONTHS AGO....

Now we are all in bad financial times 6 months after the deal and your on a witch hunt to prove something?....like I said I'll wait for my day in court...

For the rest of you bandwagon jumpers keep my wife, kids, inlaws, and personal situations out of this....it has nothing to do with this transaction.

P.S. If a court of law found in Prostocks favor, trust me I can stroke the check to cover it.....Its not the best time to write it, but I could do it if I absolutely had too...

How about the speaker enclosures? Let's hear that one............

http://forum.ih8mud.com/merchandise-...ed-time-3.html

You are truly scum. I always knew it.

Speakers are on backorder until after the first of the year, this is out of my control...offered to refund anyone who contacts me....enclosures are built and waiting speakers....

Brian, you have no room to talk pal.....Taking an old boat mold and slapping a new name on them is hardly being a boat manufacture.....trust me there are plenty of people that dislike you too buddy....so dont throw stones at a glass house... cause one day you will be sitting in the same seat I'm in....trust me .... your time is coming from some people that were involved with prototype.....

so you sold the boat on e bay by 6/15 for 17600? If not, then it seems kinda funny that you would refuse 26500 by monday morning, the the 16th and settle for 17600 unless you were using the 14 plus 17 method in figuring what you ACTUALLY got for the boat doesn't it?

This is 100% correct....the FACTS are posted!.....Nordic95 dug up what I sold the Chris Cat for on Ebay on page 7 of this thread....

The final payment was due on Friday 6/13/08, I didnt shoot down the offer to pay in full until Monday 6/16/08 when Prostock didnt contact me ALL WEEKEND to try and make different arrangements!....Yes it is "One Business Day" from Friday to Monday...BUT there was Saturday and Sunday that Prostock had ample time to call me and make a different arrangement!.....He never contacted me so I had to make other arrangments...as stated in the PM I sent to him....

Friday to Monday is 72 hours in which he could have called, PM'ed, or emailed to make different arrangments...He did NOT!

Hey Little duck dong
I may just come and ring your door bell to kick your A$$ for the hell of it.



Rick OSG

Look again at the end date of the auction.......6/30/08....the auction ran for 1 week (7 days) so the auction started on 6/23/08.....10 days AFTER Prostock didnt pay the final payment......

lol....sure

dont talk about it, just do it...