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DJD 11-14-2008 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Rare Breed (Post 2739562)
How stupid are these guys??? If it wasnt for the poker runners, I personally think this race would be history

Wow! You are kidding....right?? The races have been around LONG before poker runs were invented and they will be in Key West long after the poker runners go for a different weekend.
Speaking of who's been around longer, how long has Carbonell been doing this? 20? 30 years? How about the other players? A lot of people have come and gone but J. C. is still doing his thing and exactly the way he wants to do it.

MOBILEMERCMAN 11-14-2008 03:02 PM

You guys are getting all worked up to get someones attention. Its been JC's race for a long time now. It's his home town. Last month everyone was talking about how great Key West is and slamming anyone who said anything about bad about JC. Now what change of heart?

Some old story new faces." I don't like the way I was treated we'll fix him".

You either support him or not. Pretty simple.

My gut tells me when JC is tired of racing there will be no more Key West races. His way or no way.... Just my opinion.

I'm not defending him I just realize it is what it is. KW is his.

TYPHOON 11-14-2008 03:04 PM

Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.:ernaehrung004:
MD

Mac 11-14-2008 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by DJD (Post 2739733)
Wow! You are kidding....right?? The races have been around LONG before poker runs were invented and they will be in Key West long after the poker runners go for a different weekend.
Speaking of who's been around longer, how long has Carbonell been doing this? 20? 30 years? How about the other players? A lot of people have come and gone but J. C. is still doing his thing and exactly the way he wants to do it.

No I wasnt kidding, how many boats were there this year??? I understand the count was awy down.

HighPriority 11-14-2008 03:06 PM

Well said Randy. :drink:

DJD 11-14-2008 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Rare Breed (Post 2739764)
No I wasnt kidding, how many boats were there this year??? I understand the count was awy down.

It's all driven by the economy.
Race boats & pleasure boats run on play money. When play money tightens up, boating use goes down.

BLee 11-14-2008 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 2739763)
Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.:ernaehrung004:
MD

That would be heaven on Earth. :drink:

Hot Duck 11-14-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 2739763)
Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.:ernaehrung004:
MD

I agree!!

rchevelle71 11-14-2008 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by DJD (Post 2739733)
Speaking of who's been around longer, how long has Carbonell been doing this? 20? 30 years? How about the other players? A lot of people have come and gone but J. C. is still doing his thing and exactly the way he wants to do it.

Just because he has been doing it for 20-30 years, and doing it his way, doesnt mean its the right way??

GM has been making cars for a lot longer than toyota, but GM is not doing so well right now, are they??

I think if he listened to others, and opened up a bit to the other orgs. it would be better for everyone in the long run, fans especially, and thats what we are talking about here isnt it??

glassdave 11-14-2008 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by TYPHOON (Post 2739763)
Race teams need fans!!! PR teams dont need fans! Both love the same things (cool fast boats). If I were a race promoter and knowing I need fans to support my teams I would think the perfect place to start would be PR people. I would work with them any way I could to get the PR people to share and participate in my event. We should do joint events with vendors,manufactures and media. If an event had 50 race teams and 100 PR teams and we all hung together in the same location it would be off the hook fun. Its not all about the 1-hour race, its about the weekend together with more friends with parades,contest,street party's and putting on value to the towns we visit. We need to close this gap and realize we all think the same way and not "them and us" Think in terms of Havasu this last year.:ernaehrung004:
MD


Amen brutha Randy :D Havasu was great! although next time i am doing some late night last minute repairs to an SVL please . . . stay in the hottub . . . :angry-smiley-038::drink:


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