Just a view point

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I think a lot of posts here missing Ginos point.
Todays race circuit is a joke.. I know several racers who won't race anymore for many reasons.. JC and the KW thing is not the issue. SHould be a change?? yes.. should JC be out of the picture? yes. He talks to many people like he is the "only thing in racing".. Kinda like Redgie.. both errogants and thinks they are the only thing in boating. "v" bottems,, racing. or whatever.

But Ginos point is that he tried to do something, and he got treated like chit.. Not professionally.. not in a manner that a media.. and public event organizers ahould treat any other boater. I bet a years salary, that if Gino would have received an understanding, professional and kind decline to his request we wouldn't be reading this thread. It's all about principles, and the sad thing is that many lacking in this. Carbonell's lacking tactfullness is just an example. (I'm not to crazy about a lot of the KW personnel and the $ hungry attitudes anyways)
If.. JC and his staff would tell Gino,, in a "nice", casual way that there are insurance issues.. or protocols or whatever and "This" can't be done right now.. Gino would have just turned away said OK... I understand and drove away with a smile and would think to himself.. ok we tried.. let's try something else.. There is a way to talk to people and JC has no clue.
I think that's Ginos point.. (as well as mine.. since I taked to JC about something else last year..) that he has no personality skills. He doesn't belong to a public event when he creates problems for the future of offshore racing.
There is a way to treat people, even if the answer is a "NO". My .02
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^^^Well said.

[QUOTE=Pat D;2740919]Since you were gone........Go back and read the begining posts. I was asked to put my boat in the Parage because Fury couldn't make it and John was short one boat. I thought this would be a way to help get some exposure for my sponsor since we had a mechanical issue. That's why I was in the pits. We already went over this so you may want go back and get caught up since you were gone.

As for me registering as a racer....I raced SBI for 3 years and will never race with SBI again. Do you happen to remember a few years back when Doug Kelly of Bankbeaters was cheating for half the season? He was running 700 hp engines when it was a 500 HP class. This whole situation I have not even brought up the fact that Carbonell, stuck up, covered up, and lied for Doug kelly becuase Doug kelly threw tons of money at JC. John refused to accept our official protest signed by every other participant in the class along with $2500 cash ar required in the rulebooks to file a protest. Surely you must remember this because its when SBI really started falling apart. So Pat, I had no intentions of racing.

Thank you, that is my point exactly.
Thanks to Pats post I do have a change of heart on this issue. I as long as my fellow racers Zipp Express, Peppers, Fastboats.com, Xtrememarine, How Sweet it is etc. were screwed by JC and SBI. JC needs to be knocked down a peg. I wonder what it sould take $$ for Key west to entertain another option for Worlds? I think we should at least look into it.

RHC I not sure who you are , but I Know that for the last 8 yrs that i have been involved with SBI as diver and as the med coordinator for the last several yrs . dealing with John is difficult at best , but if you were a medical boat all you ever had to do was contact PAT D , Dave Harshfield , or myself Tom Kelly the current Medical Safety Coordinator . there was always concessions made for medical boats

You Guys Wonder Why John Carbonell treats you the way he does . read some of your own statements about him . again John and I dont see eye to eye on a lot of issues anybody that been in the pits for one our discussions( HA , HA) can tell you that . But John is not hard to figure out . If you work with him and don't ****about him and dont suprise him there are ways to work him

[QUOTE=LubeJobs42;2740984]You racers were the ones who didnt want the inspections ask some of the other racers

One thing you guys have to look at is Johns safety record . then take a look at the records of some of the other organizations. Personally i think that might wake some of you and your familys up

no doubt if an organization has so few boats that highly reduces its chances of any incidents.

just curious, how safe does j carbonel make the participants feel when they have to race without divers in a chopper

racing a canopy boat without a chopper above is playing russian roulette should a boat flip

[QUOTE=Angel 1;2744108]That is an absolute lie! I had to pay to have my motors shipped to Innovation to be inspected and sealed. There were inspections before every single race. I don't remember the inspectors name, I think it was Bill. Told all of us he was told to look the other way with Kellys boat. When the crap hit the fan in NY, he resigned on the spot. John Covered this up. He eventually, After months of fighting and a Lawsuit filed against him, he finally DQ'ed Doug Kelly BUT IN TURN DQ'ed Fastboats.com and Zipp Express for bull crap, made up technicalities so Big Doug could still have the points to be National Champion.