Is this oil changer any good?
 

Boat US is having a decent sale price on this unit - anyone use it? If so, you like it or not?

I tried a couple of the cheap oil changers. Not worth the hassle, and I broke all of them after a couple of uses. Spend the $150 for a good electric one that is mounted on a bucket, I don't remember the brand, but I can find out if you need it. It was worth every penny, does a great job and has a rebuildable pump if it does break.

DITTO :)

Kook,

I have used that one before, and it even lasted a full season. What a great workout though. I would pony up the extra $ an go for the electric. You can kick back and relax and let the pump do all the work.:cool: :D

You trailer, right? Then why hassle with a pump? Get a drain kit for your pan and it'll be quick, clean and easy. Hose fits right out thru the transom drain. Hey, I think I have an old one laying around here if you want it!
I've since gone to a PreLuber for my rig (www.preluber.com), but the ol' drain hose works great.

Or you could just buy one of the rotory vane pumps that fit in a drill and a double ended washer hose and use your own bucket for a lot less money.

Go to West Marine and buy the electric pump with the bucket. They are on sale for $125. Worth every penny. The others leak or don't work. Get the oil drain hose from Eddie marine and pump it from the pan. 8 qts in 3min. Cold!!!!!

my personal favorite is to drain both motors in the bildge and then use the vacuum at the carwash over on MLK Blvd. :D

I have a hand pump one that I love!!! Just have to pump it a couple of times and walk away and drink a beer!!! :D:D It is a tall clear cylinder and it had a couple of attachments that come with it. My SK tools guy had it but I think I have seen it at Boat US as well. Also it has a nice pour spout so if you have to get your old oil back into the small containers no problem :D:D I think it cost 40 bucks and I like it MUCH better then the electric. Plus it is plastic so you do not scratch anything.

The plastic bucket changer is the only one I have found that will work and hold up-all the marinas use them. I must confess that I have not used the one that Jon mentions though. You can also do the bilge trick if you have a good bilge pump, just throw oin a little Tide with that 1/4 " in the bottom:eek: :rolleyes: :D

I have the one Audiofn is talking about, I used to use the eletric pump, I like the cylinder one better.

However I will only be using it one more time, I am putting in the drail hose from eddiemarine for $16, got it in the mail last week:D

WILL

Jeff, LMAO:D

I'm with everyone else here. You'll be hating life trying to pump that oil out by hand. Get the electric models, It's a lot less painful, will last longer and will save hassle. Or spring for the quick-drain kits that drains through the transom drain hole. That's the way, I've been doing it for two seasons and I love it. Just bring the engine up to operating temp, pull the hose through the drain, open the plug and while I drink a brew or two it drains itself.
:cool:

I use the hose connected to the oil pan. When I get home from lake, I stick out the drain plug, put end in bucket & take cap of end. I come back latter, put cap back on new filter, new oil & ready to go again.

I had the electric pump that you had to put one end in bucket but if you do not hold on to end it will come out & get oil all over bilge & make big mess.

Drain Kits Install
 

How in the "H - E - double hockey-stick" would you get the self drain kit installed without pulling the engine? I have to do a total head stand in the engine comparment just to get to the manifold drain plugs. The oil pan seems like another mile away and the bilge pump is a distant friend that I can see, but, have never laid hands on... thank god it works great. I have a Baja 240 Islander with a 502 Mag.

I'd have to hire a contortionist (sp?) to do any more. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks for all the advice. Yes, I do trailer (but I don't do trailer trash :D ) . How does the drain kit work? I assume you don't have to pull your pan plug each time, correct?

I like that one. I have used mine for 6 years with no trouble. It's fast, light, very portable. I use it to change fluids in my truck rear end, power steering, trim pumps, everything. I also use it to drain the truck trans the night before dropping the pan to change the filter. That way I don't make a mess and get rained on the whole time I'm under the truck. It's great.

I also use the same one that audiofn & 27 fountain use & it works great. It even works on cold engines. I bought it at West Marine. They make them with different size holding tanks so get one with a tank big enough to drain one engine without dumping.

I'd belly up to the electric one for ease, durability and time saved. I've tried'em all. If you're stuck on saving a buck and go for the hand pump version, my advice is warm up the engine to thin the oil and make it easier.....

Rick

Well darn I always wondered what that slick was at the car wash:D

I like the pail w/electric pump. You can reverse it and fill your waste containers without spilling a drop. The pump is also srong enough to drain a cold motor.

Hey 27Fountain can you give some more information on this new $16 gadget I would like to install one before the season starts.

tks, Joe

I put Kieth Eikerts pre lubers in the 41. To change the oil all you do is plug in the drain hose and flip the swithch. If you use a long enough hose you can actually leave the oil container outside of the boat. When you're done simply unplug the hose and refill with oil. It might cost alot in the beginning but as far as I'm concerned it's the only system to have. It will be in all my future rides :D Good luck in your decision on oil changers kook. :)

Onthebay

here is a link for the one I have, sorry its actually $18
http://www.eddiemarine.com/cart/default.asp:rolleyes: Sydwayz23 installed one on his 26 sonic, said to make sure all oil is out and still tilt boat back, because their is still about 1/2 qt in motor.

KC BAJA

You are right installing this drain hose is going to be a challange, I can reach the drain plug but not see it, while doing a head stand in the engine comp. I am confident it will be worth it.:D

WILL

I have been using a small carter electric plunger style fuel pump mounted on a piece of plywood,2 wires with gator clips to attach to battery source,2x4 foot pieces of 3/8 rubber hose.attach one end to dipstick tube,put other end in a 5 gallon red gas can,hook up gator clips and let the pumping begin.Total cost about 75 bucks.

I got an electric one from West Marine... same price...

kicks ass.

Yes, I have used that vacuum pump. It's terrible. It kept coming apart, looses its vacuum. Don't waste your time or money. Get the little 12V Jabsco pump on the bucket

I use the one that Audiofn was tallking about too and it kicks butt. A couple pumps and it sucks the oil right out the dipstick tube. It came with a fitting that screws right to the Merc dipstick. No mess at all.

I've used the "on-sale" vacumn pump for 8 season w/o a problem. Bring the engine oil up to temperature, connect the hose to the dipstick hose, pump it 20 times and that's it. It'll take about 4 minutes for a big block. Nice unit that can be used on multiple boats plus it's very convenient to carry away the old oil. Considering how often we all change boats it makes sense to have something you that'll move with you to the next boat.

The electric pre-lubers of course sound very, very nice as well!

Are you guys sure that the master lube pre lubers you can use to drain the oil? :confused: Someone told me that you can not.

KC Baja

My Baja is 89 226 islander. I had gale banks turbo motor in it & installed the hose before I installed the motor. I know what you mean about getting down to the engine. I had the alt. mounted down low on the motor. It was easier to pull the motor out to put new belt on then to fight trying to do in in the boat. When I would change the impellor on the water pump I would have a headacke for days from standing on my head trying to get down to it.

Thunderdan-
Mine isn't a Masterlube- I don't think they can assist w/ oil changes. I have a PreLuber, which is an electric positive pressure pump(www.preluber.com). Kit comes with an electronic "brain" that is supposed to time the lubrication cycle, but I didn't use it, just hooked a toggle switch up and control it manually. Oil changes are done by disconnecting the suction line from the pan (Q-D fitting) and hitting the toggle. Pulls all the oil out of the pan into my container. Sweet.

Mine is the Kieth Eikert preluber that also has the ability to change the oil by plugging in a hose to dump the oil in a bucket. Not the cheapest, but definately the easiest :D .
RLT

I have to check if the masterlubes have that ability. That would sure be nice. I wonder if not I could have KE do something to make it easier to change the oil in my 675's. I never asked that question, because I thought that the masterlubes did that. I know it has to be easier and faster and better to drain out of the pan rather than the dipstick. Anyone have any ideas?:)

The Masterlube will definitely not allow you to change the oil. But you could have the drain hoses put in before the motors go in and then use a Reverso change pump or the new Jabsco system. Since you are going with blower motors a change pump system would be real nice since you can change easily and regularly. The system can pump the old oil right into a container for disposal. It would only be a small addition :D :D and probably would not require a new mold:D

thunderdan
Are you having KE build your engines? If so just tell him you want his prelubers. It's like an electric fuel pump that circulates the oil through the engine, but also has a quick disconnect fitting that plugs in to the plumbing. You just plug in the fitting with whatever length of hose you need to get to the bucket and flip the switch. It's really cool to be able to change the oil this fast and easy. The only mess is changing the filter, I have Fram HP6's mounted horizontally, so there is usually a liitle drip here and there. BTW I'm a nut about having a clean bilge :) . Good luck.
RLT

Thanks for the idea's.

Medicine,
KE is building the motors, the small problem I have is that I already bought 2 brand spankin new masterlubes.:( to go on my efi's. I just recently decieded to upgrade to KE. I wonder if I could sell them or send them back??

Uh Dan-

http://www.offshoreonly.com/cgi-bin/...query=category

I gotcha Ted, what are you saying, maybe I should post them for sale in th classified section of OSO? ;) :D

Are they still new in the box? Maybe you could take them back :) . I know the KE stuff isn't inexpensive, but what a convenience :D . I this a new boat? If so congrats, if not congrats on the new engines :D .
RLT

Yes, they are still new and in the box. I will try and send them back. They are going into a new Active Thunder 37. Thanks