How about a curve ball?

Velocity 390. Staggard merc 700's, cabin etc., and 115mph.

Consistantly running hard in 3-5' sees is going to beat the cr@p out of any boat with a finished cabin. If that is your primary intended use, I would highly recommned looking into race syle boat like the Donzi ZRC, Fountain PR or better yet a Saber or Apahe. Whatever you do, make sure it has speedmasters.

The 42PR is 2 boats past the 38, it's docked beside the Nortech.
Look for the red cockpit.....

Thats John Landry's boat. We built the motors for it. Runs 120 with 850s :cool: They are all great choices..its not what Mike is looking for but If i could have ANY sit down vee..id have a 399 Skater.

Thanks for defending me!!
Melissa

I was on a 38 Fountain turn boat at the 2005 Orange Beach race. We ran all the way through the infield to turn one in 3-5s at 60mph it was like getting hit by Mike Tyson. :angry-smiley-038:

I thought Needs No Name had 1075's in it?

Nope Saris Racing 850s

They sound amazing.....

Thanks! John is a great guy to deal with, always very nice. :cool:

The fountain is a solid performing boat , If you aren't willing to dish out the cash for a pantera or a cigarette i would buy a fountain .... That donzi zr is one of the worst large sports boats i've ever been in

Looks liek this one is back from the dead:food-smiley-007:

I would like to throw the 388 Hustler, 40 Hallett & 39 LaveyCraft into the mix!

What didn't you like about the ZR? What drive/power combo did it have?

So what's the verdict, Fountain or Donzi? The only thing I don't like about the Fountain is the left hand throttles, other than that I think they make a great boat. The Donzi looks AWESOME and the performance #'s seem to be there.... just not alot of info on the Donzi's 38 ZRs.
Dean

Go Ruff ...........
 

Top speed don't mean squat, especially when its only a few mile an hr ....... It sounds great at the dock, but the rough rider's going to be the faster boat in reallity ..... Back in 03, when Donzi campained the ZRC it was slower than any of the fountains in the kilo runs, but smoked everything on the race course, completly domminated ...... That's when I saw the light ............LOL...

Just quoting a past post here, They ruled until Outerlimits showed up!!:D:D Back on topic the Donzi 38 ZR is a great boat. They handle and run great!

Your are so right about the dock, when you get passed on the water its a different story.:evilb::drink::evilb:

:point:Dan.... you don't have to promote outerlimits every chance you get. It gets a little old-- though I agree with your statement.

Are you serious??? Go back to the little Kryptonite forum!:D:D I was responding to an older post a while later since now Outerlimits/OSG is the P1 champions!! Also that the 38 Donzi is a very nice boat!

Ahh, agreed Donzi is a nicer boat. No need to show your jealousy of wanting a Kryptonite. I'll make you a Kryptonite hat and shirt so you can ditch that 10 year old worn out raggy cigarette wear.....:lolhit:

Both nice boats I'd go with the Fountain over the Donzi!

think hes on the payroll now :lolhit:

I'm so confused, if you're talking about who's faster in any water conditions look and see who has won the most races and holds the records. If you talking about what boat is best for your specific use... opinions are like (you know) everybody has one. By the way, Fiore hasn't been anywhere near the kilo course in a long time

I have a 42 Ex w/ standard merc 4 blades and my friend has the 38 ZR w/ 6 Blade Herings. Both boats are 525 Staggards. The Donzi has the ITS , the Fountain has standard XR's. The Donzi runs at least 88,89mph from what I've seen while my Fountain runs 82. The Donzi and the Fountain both seem to ride really nice. The bed in the v-berth of the Donzi does not have much head room. I'd be happy with either one really.

Thanks
 

DM,
Thanks for the real world info.
BTW, nice boat:drink:

Happy New Year

Do you know the LBS of both boats?:readinghelp:

The Fountain weighs approx. 11,200lbs. and the Donzi is approx. 9500lbs.

If my math correct 1,700 lbs =5-7 MPH there ya go:bsflag:

OK, so what is it that you are calling BS on?
The LBS that where given were from the MFG's. Look'em up yer'self.
The speeds were from real life experince with BOTH boats running in the same water side by side and with both guys in each boat.
If you have the same experince with different results then post'em, if not then I suggest you watch who you are calling out.

I have personally seen 90 in a 525 38ZR and 83 in a 525 42 Fountain Lightning. The Donzi is faster!!

Apples to apples a 35' will do high 90's:kiss:Lbs are important in comparison:drink:

This message has been deleted by fountain40icbm. Reason: Fountain owners arnt worth it
If were not worth it, why are you still debating the issue? The thread started with a 38 VS a 38.

I have personally seen 95 in a 38 lightning, 87 in a 42 lightning, and 90 in 38ZR....the Donzi (9500lbs) weighs less than either Fountain, 38 (9800lbs), 42 (11,500lbs)....since the thread was a 38 vs 38 not sure how you conclude the Donzi is faster....and yes the Donzi is a about a foot longer than the 38 Fountain but pound for pound the Fountain is faster.....in the rough one would expect the heavier boat to win out but the operator of the boat makes a huge difference

Had to do with a comment posted that didnt have anything to do with the comparison. I would not associate you with some of the other owners. You dont go around praising Reggie thinking no boat is better than theres like most.

Because with Paradise there and his BS flag with the 42 vs ZR! Yes the 38 ZR is more comparable to the 42 Fountain. For the rough all you have to do is look at the past racing records, when racing was better. Both Donzi and Fountain had some good battles with both winning alot of races and championships.

I would have to agree with "Beak", the length of the boat is irrelevant, at 80 MPH only a few feet of the boat are in the water. The weight comparison is more accurate. For some TOTALLY unbiased answers I would suggest the guidance of Bob Teague or Powerboat Mag.

Pound for pound, power for power, you can't beat the beak! :evilb:

Quite candidly and this doesnt have anything to do with you, but I dont know how a 38 Lightning can weight 9800 pounds, realistically. Yes, I know thats what they publish it at, but the boat is small and short. There is definately some fluffing going on, IMO.

Put all the bs aside A Donzi is like a chick with a fat ass and no tits and as for the beek adding 2 feet run a piece of tape up the hull and get a tape measure you will see more like 6 inches.

The p4-33 Konrad 33 fountain weighed 9250 lbs in Keywest on the scale no cabin gutted in race trim 50 gallons of fuel. I have pics to prove.

Still think you all should get a subscription to Powerboat mag., they are unbiased and tell it like it is. BTW as tested by Bob Teague and Tomlinson 2008 38 lightning staggered 525's ITS 96MPH.
Don't take my word for it, see for yourself.