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Old 12-15-2008, 04:31 PM
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I think your heading in the right direction going with the Fountain due to your family and you have a Fountain to trade so a Fountain dealer is not affraid of your trade. I have always wondered about that boat myself. It is from Canada so its probably a mostly fresh water boat. What about the 600 42 Executioner Shogren has?? Looks like a nice boat boat and then you have Merc. power.

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Old 12-15-2008, 04:57 PM
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This market a trade is going to kill you unless he has somebody that wants your boat and is ready to buy. Randy is a good guy and from some of the deals he has offered me in the last few months I bet he can come down a good bit on 180k. But I bet yours will come in at under or at 100k
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The 38 Donzi will handle the waves better but it's going to be 5 - 6 mph slower than the Fountain and feel less agile, but because it is bigger and weighs more it will handle the waves better. The ZR also has quite a bit more room in the cockpit.

I own a 38 Fountain and have driven a 38 ZR. I felt the ZR was underpowered with 525's but then a 42 Fountain might also feel underpowered with 525's and a 42 might be a better comparison to the ZR in size. The 38 looks and feels quite a bit smaller than the ZR because it is.
My local "Beaker Dealer" tried to tell me this weekend over cocktails that a 38 Lightning was the same size as my Comp ZR. My ribs still hurt from laughing so hard. In the rough, a 38 foot comp ZR will beat up a 38 Lightning bad. A 42 Fountain Canopy reverses that trend, though. A cabined 42 needs 700's on a calm day to beat an obsolete Comp ZR with 575's and 4 blades. 700's in a Comp ZR will waste a 42, 38, 35, and a 33 if you were stupid enough to build one with 700's. In the rough, 575's in a Comp are enough to cover a 42 with 700's. This is based on my every weekend analsys. What's rough? 3 to 5's, or 4 to 6's. Maybe it is the driver though???? LOL!!!!!
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.....it runs circles around a 700 Fountain especially in 4-6s!
I second that, and in my case is $150 to $200k less expensive!!!!
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Your joking right?? 38 Lighting 115mph with 700's, 42 Lighting 106mph, BTW both pleasure versions, if you want to break out the 42 PR edition

I see talk but no speed #'s

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42 foot Poker run edition with 525's, is a 93 to 95 mph boat. I run 95.4 with ghetto 575's....What was your point?
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:17 PM
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Will, Will, Will,
I have 700hps (Ron Potter prepped 575's) in my Comp. and it HAS beat the 700 Fountains. I have yet to run a 700 PR 42 yet so I can not say how it will run but I know it will hold its own.
Walked a 37 Outerlimits GTX with the same power too.
The orange Comp ZR runs 115 mph with a pair of 700's. The acceleration is the best part. Plus, it will cover a 38 Lighning in the rough!!!!!!
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If you're gonna be in the rough a lot, perhaps look at the new 41 Pantera. If she rides like the other Panteras in the rough, you can't beat it.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:26 PM
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i have run both fountain and donzi in racing condition. i like the donzi, it feels like my skater in 5's easy. i fell inlove with the zr in 02. ran a fountain in 03 then back to the zr.
the zr handles the rough very well.
93mph with 500 efi's.
never ran one with 525's, but if it ran that well with 500's the puch with the 525's is gonna be better. 700's have to be sweet.
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i want to be in a donzi for the new power to wieght ratio in oss, BAD
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