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Lee 03-14-2002 11:43 AM

Copy Cat
 
Looks like somebody is trying to give the ORIGINAL OSO competition this is from the Sunsation site.click here

NOTE: The above Link is no longer valid, But I saved the page. :D

CigDaze 03-14-2002 11:55 AM

Well, I guess you can splash anything...including board names. :mad: :rolleyes: :(

Gary C 03-14-2002 12:06 PM

You know, there was always somthing I didn't like about that guy. Now I know what it is. Some people will do anything to make a buck. Hey Jeffreyboy, is your family for sale too?:mad: I think I just got an idea for a website:D

CigDaze 03-14-2002 12:14 PM

You know, the more I think about the more dispicable it seems!
That's just plain wrong! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Lake Front 03-14-2002 12:16 PM

Wow!

I'm a little disappointed that a real "OSO.com" member would splash the domain name and clearly build off someone elses original idea . . . and then make some money to boot by just adding a ".net". It is certainly legal and within their rights ... just disapointing.

Long live the orignal.

Advantage_Rob 03-14-2002 12:19 PM

Thats.............

Maybee it's a site for spashed hull performance boats only, it's got the oso (or had it), and just by coincidence, even Jerrerey as a founder...wierd!! It is a free country though.:rolleyes: whatever!!! I'll be right here where I belong!!:D

Lee 03-14-2002 12:24 PM

Wow that's kinda Funny, If you look again at the link that I gave you can see that He edited his original post about 20 minutes ago. Thats ok becaused I save the original. and will post it.

CigDaze 03-14-2002 12:28 PM

I saw that, too, Lee! :mad:
Even the format, layout, and owner's forums are in the same order! :mad: :mad:

OSO.COM...The original! The Best!

Chris288 03-14-2002 12:28 PM

Please do,,,
 
I would love to read the original !!

Risk Taker 03-14-2002 12:34 PM

It has already been changed.
 
Check out Lee's link again.......Smart move. Now maybe JeffreyBoy would like to explain, on OUR Board, that he isn't capitalizing on the OSO name........:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

PhantomChaos 03-14-2002 01:33 PM

Guess what........
 
he'll probably be chatting with himself most of the time.

IDRPSTF 03-14-2002 02:00 PM

"Im Bankrolling out of my own pockett" What, do you want a cookie for that, BFD!!!
Im Bankrolling my site and buisness out of my own pockett as well. It doesnt mean I cant come up with my own Ideas for marketing and furthering the growth of my own ideas.
I think every member of this board has sat back at one point or another and thought to themselves :Offshore Only, What a great Idea... Why didnt I think of that?" Well you didnt!!! Jeffery did and he ran with it and we all should thank him that we can screw around on the board, Use it for boating information, Post non boating items or just sit back and watch the show. Taking your own idea and making it into something tangable is not easy. I can only hope that Jeffery takes this as a sighn that we all wish we pulled this one off first. I for one will show a little respect self worth and run with my own ideas:
By the way, I am looking for investers in my new computer company. I am thinking of calling it "Microsofft" with to F's. Any takers?

PhantomChaos 03-14-2002 02:06 PM

Matt-

I think that "Microsopht" would be better.

Risk Taker 03-14-2002 02:28 PM

IDRPSDF - WELL PUT !!!!
 
:)

Advantage_Rob 03-14-2002 03:23 PM

MicroPhatt...

boot 03-14-2002 05:47 PM

Hey ,I'm gonna start building boats ! I am going to go out and cut my cat in half and stretch it a little bit . It's going to be the new 46" Sigarette Tuff Rider !! What do you guys think?:cool:

PhantomChaos 03-14-2002 06:11 PM


Originally posted by boot
Hey ,I'm gonna start building boats ! I am going to go out and cut my cat in half and stretch it a little bit . It's going to be the new 46" Sigarette Tuff Rider !! What do you guys think?:cool:


Boot~

This is available:

www.cigaretteracing.net

................so I would keep the "C" instead of the "S".

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Playn 03-14-2002 08:23 PM

Oh come on now!...the two boards couldn't be confused:rolleyes:

Offshoreonly.com actually has MEMBERS:D

timewarp 03-14-2002 11:07 PM

This is a boating forum the proper terminology is SPLASH not copy cat!!!:D :D



Caleb

KCHOTBOAT 03-14-2002 11:52 PM


Originally posted by Playn
Oh come on now!...the two boards couldn't be confused:rolleyes:

Offshoreonly.com actually has MEMBERS:D

:D :D :D
I wonder if Jeffery Boy is still a member here.:rolleyes:

IDRPSTF 03-15-2002 12:48 AM

I just finished the prototype of the all new 38 "Founterette Combover Special"
Some key points:
1. It has an unbelievably low rear end but still porposes.

2. It takes a little more power to get the speed out of but still has a Beek.

3. It has an oval label in the back with Gold leaf trim around it.

4. The cabin has a large wood top cooler with tube lighting.

5. It actualy runs 3MPH over what the GPS and Speedo read no matter what.

6. The companies history will have ties to the Deep South Mafia.

7. Owners will find that they argue with themselves over charactoristics.

8. The pleasure cabin will be too damn small to get lucky in without getting a leg cramp.

I am excepting deposits in my personal Bank account know. This is not a splash boat. I thought up every little detail myself without the help of any other referances. This boat Stuffs just as well as it Hooks! Keep an eye out for next months "OuterSation"

Ike 03-15-2002 11:36 AM

I always thought JB was a hammer , now I know for sure.

PhantomChaos 03-15-2002 03:44 PM

Hey JeffreyBoy
 
See ya later............no need for you to be around here anymo!

Pretty lame. :rolleyes: Are you going to try to get Reggie Fountain to buy your www.fastboats.info URL cuz it sure is close to www.fastboats.net ?????

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Registrant:
N/A
Anystreet
Anywhere, CA 90210
United States

Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
Domain Name: OFFSHOREONLY.ORG
Created on: 10-MAR-02
Expires on: 10-MAR-03
Last Updated on: 10-MAR-02

Administrative Contact:
Jennings, Jeffrey [email protected]
N/A
Anystreet
Anywhere, CA 90210
United States
410-555-1212

Technical Contact:
Jennings, Jeffrey [email protected]
N/A
Anystreet
Anywhere, CA 90210
United States
410-555-1212

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Registrant:
N/A
Anystreet
Anywhere, CA 90210
United States

Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
Domain Name: OFFSHOREONLY.NET
Created on: 07-MAR-02
Expires on: 07-MAR-03
Last Updated on: 07-MAR-02

Administrative Contact:
Jennings, Jeffrey [email protected]
N/A
Anystreet
Anywhere, CA 90210
United States
410-555-1212

Technical Contact:
Jennings, Jeffrey [email protected]
N/A
Anystreet
Anywhere, CA 90210
United States
410-555-1212
==============================


"Whatever"

IDRPSTF 03-16-2002 04:41 PM

Norty, Do you ever actually work or just consider getting even with everyone a full time job. :D
Was there an application or interview for the job. I hate that there is one bigger smart ass in the world than me. I know have a roll model.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 03-16-2002 10:31 PM

Site Names
 
And to think a while back when I was just starting my site I almost used the name F.B.I. Fast Boat Information Damn glad I stuck with SHARKEYMARINE.COM :eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

Lee 01-20-2004 05:29 PM

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JeffreyBoy



USA
69 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 10:54:37 AM
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Last weekend I launched http://www.offshoreonly.net/

Shortly after launching http://www.offshoreonly.net/ an individual contacted me asking me to transfer the domain. I have agreed to transfer the domain because I really do not wanted to be perceived as attempting to trade off the name of others, although it is clear that domain names are free for the taking. A domain name simply is not that important to me to cause any hard feelings. The http://www.offshoreonly.net/ will soon be transferred and will be replaced immediately by http://www.fastboats.info/.

It's a big world and there are lots of Power Boaters with Internet access and I believe that people should be able to choose where they wish to surf. It would be a pretty boring world if there were only one high performance boat manufacturer and now there will be more than one High Performance Offshore Boating Forum for people to choose from. In the meantime, feel free to join http://www.offshoreonly.net/, your profiles, posts and avatars will be transferred to http://www.fastboats.info/ by Friday 3/22/02.

warmest regards,
Jeff Jennings



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Lee



USA
19 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 11:18:20 AM
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Jeffreyboy, I personally think that you creating Offshoreonly.net was nothing but a way to capitalize on the successful Offshoreonly name. Why did you not go with the Fastboats.info right from the begining? Did you buy Sunsationboats.net also?

I checked out your site and it is nice, and fast too, but the whole idea of you using offshoreonly.net to begin with is pretty cheesey in my book.

The above are my personal opinions and in no way associated with Sunsation Boats.

Lee




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JeffreyBoy



USA
69 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 11:34:05 AM
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Thanks for your message.

To answer your question: fastboats.info wasn't near the top of my list.

Of course ONLYOFFSHORE.com was available, so would having chosen that name qualify also as pretty cheesy or do you believe that every domain name with Offshore in it, somehow belong to offshoreonly.com?

We are after all talking primarily about offshore boating. Should Sunsation Boats also be owning to Offshoreonly.com since they have the words Offshore molded into their swim platforms?

Would it have been better for me to have chosen Offshorealso.com? (available)

I have read your words carefully.
I searched for a suitable domain names to depict offshore boating but basically none were available. If it's your opion that I attempted to capitalize off the name another, then that's you opinion, but I know it is not true. Unfortunately there are not a lot of good domains name left that end in .com

Many domains are registered and simply not used, but purchased in the hopes of selling the domain. Purchasing this domain name with the hopes of capitalizing was the furthest things from my mind, but if you're going to have a presence on the Internet, then any prudent business person would protect their investment by purchasing all domain names. In any event basically anything to do with OFFSHORE is gone and most of it's taken by Offshore bankers. I did my best to come up with a name that was suitable for my goals and that was simple...to create an advertising free Offshore Performance Boating forum and usually .NET and .ORG names are used for those purposes. Many examples exist, in fact vbulletin; the people who make the best Forum software (vbulletin.com) live in peaceful co-existence with vbuletin.org.

In any event, I know my intentions are honorable and my friends know it too and you are always welcome on my forum.

I will ask you if your opinions have anything to do with the fact that you're a forum moderator on http://www.offshoreonly.com/

To answer your second question, no I did not buy sunsationsboats.net, but for a while I have owned http://www.sunsation288.com/ for my personal website...was that cheesy?


regards,

- jeff


Edited by - JeffreyBoy on 03/14/2002 12:30:12 PM

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kook



USA
95 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 12:17:20 PM
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I HAVE to ask this question Jeff: Why are you doing this? The format is nearly identical to OSO.com.... I can understand the desire to create a new forum, if, say, you are targeting only a certain geographic region, or make of boat, etc....



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JeffreyBoy



USA
69 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 12:25:04 PM
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The reason I'm doing this:
I don't like using sites that are all cluttered up with advertising.

The format is nearly identical because every computer person is using the same forum software if they're going to make an online community.

Offshoreonly.com did not develop their forum software, they purchased it just like I did.

It's called vbulletin.com and it's the best. I'm in the computer biz and I also have other forums (for firewall software, intrusion detection, etc) and have been using this software for years. I am committed to offering a forum that is not cluttered up on the top and left hand sides of the screen with advertising.

I am doing all of this out of my own pocket and on my own time without any help or money from anyone else.

I hope this answers your question.



http://www.sunsation288.com/

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Lee



USA
19 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 1:06:36 PM
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Jeff, Theres no reason to keep editing your first and second posts multiable times, there is plenty of bandwidth here.

I truly think if you would of started off with anything BUT offshoreonly.net
your intentions would not be under scuinity.

My being a Fourm Moderator on OSO has absolutly nothing to do with it, I have
no personal or monetary connection to OSO other than being a Fourm Moderator which the privlege is less than a week old.

The fact that you are bankrolling your site on your own for the free use by others is a very good intention.

If you feel a need to discuss this further please feel free to Email me

Take care,
Lee



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JeffreyBoy



USA
69 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 2:56:16 PM
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There is no need to talk with you or email you.
Your opinion has been stated and my response is my response is posted.
Like I said, my site is open to everyone and you are most welcomed to join.

I honestly think that there should be more sites, not just mine in addition to OSO.com. Competition for consumers is good. It's keeps people honest. And you are certainly welcome to apply for a moderators position on my site if you wish. I will consider everyone without bias.

- jeff




[UL]http://www.sunsation288.com/[/UL]

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Lee



USA
19 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 4:23:16 PM
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Jeff, The only reason I suggested that you Email me is that the Sunsation board is not the proper fourm for this discussion as they do not have an area for open topics such as this, they are generally geared towards boating discussions.

I agree with you 100% on that competition is good for the consumer after all a monopoly is only benefical to the propieter.

The action that you took to capitalize on someone elses successful business with your particular venture is within your rights which you are absoultey entitled to, Although I felt that what you did was in poor taste and that is my sole personal opinion which I am also entitled to.

Thank you for being a gentelman in your response to my constructive critism and keeping an unbiased and open mind, and the offer for me to join your Fourm and the the invitation to apply for a Moderator position.

Take care and good luck on your site,
Lee



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JeffreyBoy



USA
69 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 5:06:23 PM
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Here's to my Sunsation 288
Every day it gets warmer and every day the call of the bay grows louder.
Every evening the sun goes down a little later and every morning the sun comes up a little earlier.

and I know that soon, I'll be on the water enjoying myself because none us us ever know how many days we have left on this planet.

summer can't come soon enough.

- jeff

http://www.sunsation288.com/

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mfb



USA
2 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 5:40:38 PM
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Jeff I just registered to this board. I for one am happy to have the forums you provide for us boatheads.Keep up the great work and Thank You, Mark B.



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kook



USA
95 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 8:47:18 PM
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FWIW, I kinda like the advertising - I don't look at it too much, but some sites interest me, and I go have a poke around once in a while - some neat stuff out there. I never once found the advertising obtrusive - not in the least.

Yeah, competition is a good thing, but I wouldn't call this competition. I wish you luck, but think it's gonna be a real steep uphill shlep - from what I have seen, if a BBS has a big following, it keeps it's status, unless possbily there becomes a lack of leadership.

.02



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mfb



USA
2 Posts
Posted - 03/14/2002 : 9:02:31 PM
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Jeffery, Having trouble posting on oso.net. Registered there cant post for some reason(have I warn out my welcome?). Let me know if you could. Thanks, Mark B.



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kook



USA
95 Posts
Posted - 03/17/2002 : 10:39:45 AM
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Jeff:

Is the advertising the reason that the OSO board is rather slow? If so, then I'm kinda pissed about it. Running 28.8kbps from home (something in the phone lines out why way, not PC-related) and the board sees to take some time to load up all the banners and stuff.



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JeffreyBoy



USA
69 Posts
Posted - 03/17/2002 : 2:59:51 PM
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I really can't comment on oso.com. I have no idea what type of servers they're running; if they're keeping database connections open all the time, if they've got a firewall, intrusion detection systems, or how their server is configured etc. Running enterprise level servers for thousands of users can be tricky and complex.

What I can tell you is that my website is running on servers that have been optimized to run the forums software. I keep the database that contains all the information on a seperate server than the server that runs the forum software that serves up the pages you see. I've been in the computer business for 30 years now and am part owner of a large .com that serves over one million web based subscribers every day, so I know a lot about configuring and optimizing Unix based web servers. I also have a full time backup server running in case the primary server goes down. The backup server is deployed in a different part of the country than the primary servers. The server does automatic backups every 4 hours and is on a Uniterrupted Power System with excellent firewall and intrusion detections systems standing in front of it.

ps: There's a promotion going on right now at fastboats.info - Register and you could win a handheld Garmin GPS!


http://www.sunsation288.com/

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RiverGirl



2 Posts
Posted - 04/13/2002 : 2:00:02 PM
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OFFSHOREONLY.COM has been supported out of pocket since it first went up.
Because of the amount of people who go onto the site and with it growing more and more, it has become the largest Offshore Performance boating website ...it would only be a matter of time for them to expand to two servers.
Reason for the advertisers..?
Two servers are quite expensive. In order to provide a free playground for everyone, they had to find a way to support it.

So really, I think to put up with the advertising is quite fair for a free and fun playgound for everyone.

CigDaze 01-20-2004 06:01 PM

Great find, Lee!

See folks, this is how it all started. It's pretty cheap, if you think about it.

Now, the FUNNY thing is, how most of the things that Jeffy over there was bitshing about back then, is all happening to his site. Just, goes to show ya....

open87 01-20-2004 06:08 PM

pop pop pop , in the microwave we go:rolleyes:

saaaalt please:D

CAP071 01-20-2004 06:27 PM

Here try this you might enjoy it www.thehun.com

PhantomChaos 01-20-2004 07:15 PM

Funny....I was just looknig for this thead and finally found it, then I noticed that you guys already put it up! :D :D

PhantomChaos 02-02-2005 09:54 PM

Re: Copy Cat
 

Last weekend I launched http://www.offshoreonly.net

Shortly after launching http://www.offshoreonly.net/ an individual contacted me asking me to transfer the domain. I have agreed to transfer the domain because I really do not wanted to be perceived as attempting to trade off the name of others, although it is clear that domain names are free for the taking. A domain name simply is not that important to me to cause any hard feelings. The http://www.offshoreonly.net/ will soon be transferred and will be replaced immediately by http://www.fastboats.info/.

It's a big world and there are lots of Power Boaters with Internet access and I believe that people should be able to choose where they wish to surf. It would be a pretty boring world if there were only one high performance boat manufacturer and now there will be more than one High Performance Offshore Boating Forum for people to choose from. In the meantime, feel free to join http://www.offshoreonly.net/, your profiles, posts and avatars will be transferred to http://www.fastboats.info/ by Friday 3/22/02.

warmest regards,
Jeff Jennings





The format is nearly identical because every computer person is using the same forum software if they're going to make an online community.


The reason I'm doing this:
I don't like using sites that are all cluttered up with advertising.
:D :D :D :D

LOL!!!!!!!!! Here's the dope on the dope for the guys the were questioning what happened the other week. :drink: :drink: :drink:

CigDaze 02-03-2005 07:23 AM

Re: Copy Cat
 
Nice find Norty! :D

glassdave 02-03-2005 07:42 AM

Re: Copy Cat
 
what happened the other week? just curious :cool:

Edward R. Cozzi 02-03-2005 07:58 AM

Re: Copy Cat
 
Jeff:
Please call me when your porno section is as good as ours. Thanks.
Ed

fund razor 02-03-2005 09:22 AM

Re: Copy Cat
 

Originally Posted by glassdave
what happened the other week? just curious :cool:

Which week? It has been busy. :D

I guess I am gonna get some chit for my new forum called "RipOffshoreOnly.com"

dockrocker 02-03-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Copy Cat
 
You guys might like this thread :D

fund razor 02-03-2005 02:22 PM

Re: Copy Cat
 
Heck.... why might even post on it. :D

CigDaze 02-03-2005 02:26 PM

Re: Copy Cat
 

Originally Posted by dockrocker
You guys might like this thread :D

Nice. :D :D

fund razor 02-03-2005 02:27 PM

Re: Copy Cat
 
From that other site..... (I don't know how to hyperlink inside a post)

quote:
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Originally posted by Rattlesnake Jake

"Had a family battle, so he started his own Winery."

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response from Fund:

"I thought that only happened with boating forums."

fund razor 02-03-2005 02:49 PM

Re: Copy Cat
 
OMG.... :eek:

I just browsed the tech section.

Ladies and gentlemen.... I have found out why our insurance rates are so high.

In addition to little technical gems like "First sign of Spring" (A robin, how cute)....
"Whose gauges Rock" (what gauges should I buy)....

there are the classics "How do you zero these out?" A guy with a 35 Fountain lightning needs to know how you "zero out" his drive trim and tab indicators.

And "What are trim tabs for?" from a guy who has a 32 Fountain Fever.

How can you progress to a freaking 32 or 35 foot fountain without knowing what trim tabs do? :eek:

Very scary. Boo.


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