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Uncle Dave 02-02-2009 09:17 PM

uuuhhh noooo thanks............
 

Originally Posted by Ona-Mission (Post 2791126)
I'm asking this question for the buyer of my 91 27' Fountain. a couple issues have been pointed out and I wanted to get the power of OSO members involved. He was told that a couple concerns and the first being that the heads don't have enough head bolts and that this is proned to blowing head gaskets? and the next is that the crank should be steel and not cast?

In my uneducated perspective I can see that these could be true as a week link from too much boost. Can these limits be identified or should improvements just be made as part of the prochagers installation?

Any other tips, big and small are appreciated. thanks in advance.


Unless the guy selling the fountain can show receipts hes been inside the engine and replaced cast parts, did the exhaust seats etc., upgraded injectors, remapped ECU & there's a good manifold or better yet tube exhaust system ....... tell him to stay away from from it.


All the "bolt on blower" stories pretty much end the same and usually within about 20 hours of the beginning of the story. (doesnt matter the brand and Im not knocking the procharger its a nice unit)
Im stating emphatically NOT to" bolt on" any blower without a long list of upgrades.

I learned all this the expensive way.

"Uncle Dave"

Need-the-Speed 02-02-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 2791652)
Unless the guy selling the fountain can show receipts hes been inside the engine and replaced cast parts, did the exhaust seats etc., upgraded injectors, remapped ECU & there's a good manifold or better yet tube exhaust system ....... tell him to stay away from from it.


All the "bolt on blower" stories pretty much end the same and usually within about 20 hours of the beginning of the story. (doesnt matter the brand and Im not knocking the procharger its a nice unit)
Im stating emphatically NOT to" bolt on" any blower without a long list of upgrades.

I learned all this the expensive way.

"Uncle Dave"

I agree. If you want to run a Procharger you should at the very min. have your motor spec'd to a 500 HP. Use notched pistons, Roller Valve train...etc. etc.

BAJA WILL 02-02-2009 10:14 PM

Our problems were basically trying to fix, what other people think is just a "Bolt on Application" fue/air mixture, fuel pressure, its just more than "bolt on". Oh and yes within one or two seasons, motors trashes. Now these were all stock, black motors.

Your asking a 18 yr motor to put out HP it was never designed to do. I am being straight up with you, even if you do a professional job, its going to break. Each their own, but you will wish you had just build up the motor.

WILL:cool-smiley-026:

trc2 02-02-2009 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 2791652)
Unless the guy selling the fountain can show receipts hes been inside the engine and replaced cast parts, did the exhaust seats etc., upgraded injectors, remapped ECU & there's a good manifold or better yet tube exhaust system ....... tell him to stay away from from it.


All the "bolt on blower" stories pretty much end the same and usually within about 20 hours of the beginning of the story. (doesnt matter the brand and Im not knocking the procharger its a nice unit)
Im stating emphatically NOT to" bolt on" any blower without a long list of upgrades.

I learned all this the expensive way.

"Uncle Dave"

I to have learned the expensive way I now have in to these motors what I bought the whole boat for. Its best to just send out the motors and have them professional built and dyno

trc2 02-02-2009 10:22 PM

One engine is done dyno at 521 H/P and this is a small block 350 was 300 H/P

Young Performance 02-02-2009 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by Ona-Mission (Post 2791126)
I'm asking this question for the buyer of my 91 27' Fountain. a couple issues have been pointed out and I wanted to get the power of OSO members involved. He was told that a couple concerns and the first being that the heads don't have enough head bolts and that this is proned to blowing head gaskets? and the next is that the crank should be steel and not cast?

In my uneducated perspective I can see that these could be true as a week link from too much boost. Can these limits be identified or should improvements just be made as part of the prochagers installation?

Any other tips, big and small are appreciated. thanks in advance.


Is this a carb. engine or is it EFI???

Ona-Mission 02-03-2009 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 2791699)
Is this a carb. engine or is it EFI???

this is carbed.

Jeff P31 02-03-2009 03:46 PM

If you go with the pro charger let me know I can give you some good base numbers to start with. Jet sizes & timing if you want . Carbs are a lot easyer to set up than efi , with no computer to mess with. :ernaehrung004:

blue thunder 02-03-2009 04:06 PM

Ditto Jeff. The problem is not so much with the extra stress on the internal but the lack of adjustiblity of the fuel and timing. If it is carbed and you run it reletivly rich and with about 30* total advance, it will last a long time. A valve job with good valves, head gaskets and bolts even better and you would be good to go with the "bolt ons".

BT :cool:


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