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Old 02-05-2009, 12:31 PM
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That's a BIG negative ghostrider. It's a partnership for safe boating between the manufacturers and Performance Boat School; and it really works. The class also does not make up for experience.
Ugh... Getting a customer qualified for a loan is one thing. Getting a customer insured is another. The loan company is going to require insurance on the vessel and the service that Trace offers goes a long ways to getting the customer 1. Insured and 2. a better rate than they normally would have been able to get. In essence, the school pays for itself rather quickly.

Both of these are vitally imporntant to the Boat Sale. This is why it has become a strategic partnership between the manufacturers and the schools and makes a win/win situation for all parties.
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Old 02-05-2009, 02:59 PM
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What the reasoning behind staying on the throttle in a stepped hull boat? How does that keep it from catching an edge like that?

throttle is you're friend..that was taught in the Tres school..so I use it as much as possible
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throttle is you're friend..that was taught in the Tres school..so I use it as much as possible
Yeah, I guess it goes against most people's intuition but the physics behind it make sense. Will see if the Tres School is in the cards with the economy what it is, not sure if I can pony up for it this year, but we'll see. May just have to go through another summer of not making any turns in my boat....
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I would say I really never turn my boat with a lot of speed. Just have always thought they are meant to go fast in a straight line. I'll just leave the turning to the racers.
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I would say I really never turn my boat with a lot of speed. Just have always thought they are meant to go fast in a straight line. I'll just leave the turning to the racers.
Agreed. I'm smart enough to know that I don't know everything. I've been driving boats all my life but this is my first step bottom that I have owned so I know not to push it too much. Plus it really ruins the day if you dump all of your pasengers on the way to the party.
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I would say I really never turn my boat with a lot of speed. Just have always thought they are meant to go fast in a straight line. I'll just leave the turning to the racers.
That's exactly how I've personally looked at the issue all along. These boats have always been designed to go long distances, in varied conditions, like Miami/Bahamas or NYC/Miami, when those were actual races. They aren't hydroplanes meant to be ran in swimming pools.

There have been a handful of videos that have surfaced since this incident, that indicate the owner/drivers' performance boat level of seat time experience, was extremely limited, and likely had zero stepped hull experience at all. I mean, he could have AT LEAST saved the boat by simply having the kill switch attached to his wrist....!! http://www.tresmartinperformance.com...page=out&id=32 $20.95 SHIPPED...... or $20,095 plus shipping to AMERICA to fix the damage?

People that continue to use the obligatory response that they've "owned a 70mph straight bottom for 20 years", as an excuse to be above learning the correct way to operate a "real" high performance boat, will likely continue to star in these videos in the future.

Again, there sure are A LOT of stepped Cigarettes/performance boats out there that AREN'T flipping over to be the boats' fault!
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It is also good to have information and share it with someone that asks why this happens and how to handle a step bottom boat..without just saying take a course.
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I would say I really never turn my boat with a lot of speed. Just have always thought they are meant to go fast in a straight line. I'll just leave the turning to the racers.
Jeremy can you comment on the difference between a bravo 42 and a #6 46 when handling is compared?
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It is also good to have information and share it with someone that asks why this happens and how to handle a step bottom boat..without just saying take a course.

Others along with myself, recommend the course because it's taught by professionals that cover every aspect of high performance boat operation. They also break down the causes and remedies behind nearly all situations you might find yourself in, so that you'll understand what to look for before it happens.

It's not a bunch of opinions or speculation to weed through from people that may or may not have a clue of what they're talking about.

Off the top of my head, I'd estimate there are no less than 20 other threads covering the topic on OSO, so please don't act like we're holding out on your free info search just because we're suggesting a way to learn it other than half-assed.
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Others along with myself, recommend the course because it's taught by professionals that cover every aspect of high performance boat operation. They also break down the causes and remedies behind nearly all situations you might find yourself in, so that you'll understand what to look for before it happens.

It's not a bunch of opinions or speculation to weed through from people that may or may not have a clue of what they're talking about.

Off the top of my head, I'd estimate there are no less than 20 other threads covering the topic on OSO, so please don't act like we're holding out on your free info search just because we're suggesting a way to learn it other than half-assed.


I was not asking for FREE information from the course. Alot of people (myself included) have ask questions about how to handle boats in different conditions. Just trying to learn and appreciate what others know. I know that I can not afford to pay for a class. I know I can't afford to buy a step bottom boat, but i still want to learn. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.
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