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tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 10:59 AM

Boat Damage?
 
Looking at a cruiser at Lake ozark. Its an 01 model, 496 volvo, 400 hrs. Its deck, windshield, and bimini were damaged to the tune of $14k in the 07 ice storm. Seller reports all work done expertly by the dealer, as was all normal maintenance up until two yrs ago. Now the marina its at maintains it. Its listed at 50k, and average NADA retail right now is 33k......

How much do you discount from there for high hrs, and the fact its not stock?

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 01:02 PM

Anybody.....? Is this guy 20k too expensive?

BAJA WILL 02-09-2009 01:08 PM

I think everyone is confused??

NADA is 33K

asking 55K

What is the question, sounds like their NUTZ, move on find a nondamaged boat, for nada??

Knot 4 Me 02-09-2009 02:39 PM

Expertly repaired? Be careful. Many substandard repairs were done by "fly by night" outfits on damaged boats after that storm. Is it by chance a Sea Ray listed at Marine Max? If so, I can point you to someone that will give you the honest skinny on the boat.

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 2796348)
Expertly repaired? Be careful. Many substandard repairs were done by "fly by night" outfits on damaged boats after that storm. Is it by chance a Sea Ray listed at Marine Max? If so, I can point you to someone that will give you the honest skinny on the boat.

No, its not a sea ray. Said the dealer did the work and gave me the info.

BAJA WILL 02-09-2009 03:19 PM

So i guess I am confused?? you are considering buying a boat for 22K over NADA, PLEASE COME TO MY BOAT LOT, I will happily knock 10K off 25K over NADA on a boat that had substantial damage??????????? WTF ???? Am i missing something??:eek:

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by BAJA WILL (Post 2796391)
So i guess I am confused?? you are considering buying a boat for 22K over NADA, PLEASE COME TO MY BOAT LOT, I will happily knock 10K off 25K over NADA on a boat that had substantial damage??????????? WTF ???? Am i missing something??:eek:

No......most certainly not. They guy has it priced 20k over nada, also knowing it has had 14k of repairs made to it. Im curious what its correct value is?

Sean H 02-09-2009 03:48 PM

just for the record, 50k-33k is 17k.... not 20k or 22k... :drink:

now back to the thread...

name the dealer.

BAJA WILL 02-09-2009 03:55 PM

Thinking faster than I can type. I would say 20% minus retail is a good # to start with. But I got to be honest with you, any dealer who thinks his used boat with 400 hours is worth that much over NADA, I wouldn't even bother with:ernaehrung004:

WILL:evilb:

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Sean H (Post 2796417)
just for the record, 50k-33k is 17k.... not 20k or 22k... :drink:

now back to the thread...

name the dealer.

thats b/c its 51, and was 53k....im just rounding these figures.

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by BAJA WILL (Post 2796423)
Thinking faster than I can type. I would say 20% minus retail is a good # to start with. But I got to be honest with you, any dealer who thinks his used boat with 400 hours is worth that much over NADA, I wouldn't even bother with:ernaehrung004:

WILL:evilb:

private seller

fantastixvoyage 02-09-2009 05:13 PM

If they even listed it at $55k they have no clue and probably not even worth your time. If they were listed AT nada then maybe as you can probably talk them down as they just used book to start.

For me the $14k don't mean chit other than the boat sustained a lot of damage. Remember that is repairs NOT upgrades! Do a search on boat trader and other online sites, figure out what the model is actually going for and go from there. Damage repair, 400hrs AND nearly $20k over book...i'd walk, no run away! $20k UNDER book? now we're talking.

VtSteve 02-09-2009 05:17 PM

I gues it makes a huge difference, for starters, as to the brand and model. ie: Bayliner vs Formula :eek:

How about $5,000 with no questions after a sea trial :drink:

trips2win 02-09-2009 05:38 PM

if you are interested in that boat i would ask where it was damaged at what dock most of those went under

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 07:46 PM

Windshield, bimini, and deck repair around those areas. Apparently nothing structural.....just asthetic and functional stuff.

The issue im having is that there are next to no boats that fit my needs.

26-29ft, cabin cruiser, single screw, no arch, generator and air/AC. Dont want to spend more than 45 this time. Most all are salt water and/or 900 miles away.

Back4More 02-09-2009 07:55 PM

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o27163-en.html

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 2796666)



A. twice as much cheese as I want to spend.

B. No gen or AC

C. I cant stand up in there. Not a cabin cruiser. I would have just kept my fountain.

About the perfect boat is an 02 260 sundancer without an arch(so i can lift it)

BAJA WILL 02-09-2009 09:29 PM

Try these

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=19306

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=19142

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=18823

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=17580

http://www.yachtauctions.com/detail.asp?stockNo=19559

Remember most archs will easily unbolt.

Just giving you some options:ernaehrung004:

tblrklakemo 02-09-2009 09:49 PM



I appreciate it, but there isnt one generator there. Im telling you, its difficult to find a boat this size with a gen. The only arches I know that will unbolt are Rinkers....aluminum. But that usually boogers up the bimini system. Its a tuff one. I found THE boat in sacramento....but its over priced and costly to get to me. :mad:


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