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AIR TIME 04-25-2009 12:08 PM

With a builder like DEAN GELLNER in that area of ohio, he would be the 1st guy to get a price from plus he is on here and the other sites, thats why I spent 5 hundred to ship the unassembled 572 blower to him instead of bring it here for my old builder, I felt DEAN is one of the honest and better builders in the country. plus the sister motor to mine blew up with 5 to 10 hours on it, that came from a well known NJ builder:eek:. Dean had to re machine the block ,heads and told me THAT THE OIL PAN WAS TO SMALL for what I wanted for power with the big blower so I needed a lil time to get the other pan and he was cool about that. and he will run your boat to tune it like a few other builders . but my builder would not do that here he would not put the marine chit on either so ,I am glad I meet DEAN two or three years ago on oso he is my ENGINE GOD:p:p:p. thank you Dean for being you a great builder and person.

AIR TIME 04-25-2009 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Raylar (Post 2819558)
Keep telling OSO'ers to keep their MARINE HIGH PERFORMANCE engine building with the real reputable marine engine builders and stay away from these machine shops that dabble and dribble in marine engine disasters ! When you need brain surgery you don't go to a proctologist !, they are both doctors , but that's where the similarity ends !

Best Regards,
Ray @ Raylar

RAY your 100% right and you have a nice package for the 496 motors, anyone I see with them the 496 hos I tellum to check your upgrades out:ernaehrung004:

newfountainguy 04-26-2009 06:18 AM

web site bull sh1t
 
i have not yet had the oppertunity to get screwed over by anybody in the marine industry. so i can't say i feel your pain, but being in the construction industry my reputation is everything. that being said...

1. why give anybody a boat load of money without checking in with some past clients.
2. if some one had a problem with some work done, why wouldn't you call them up and talk to them first. (instead of getting on OSO and bashing there rep)

so, with that being said how do we know that this guy isn't full of sh!t. maybe the boat owner was a royal pain in the a$$ during the build, and the guy wouldn't be his friend after the motors were done.

I guess my point here is that anybody that may have had there feeling hurt or didn't have there ego stroked can have hard feelings about things and get on OSO and start bashing.

WITH OUT PHOTOS OR VIDEO THIS CLAIM COULD BE TOTAL BULL SH!T.

just my 2 cents

sean stinson 04-26-2009 06:54 AM

My question is why didn't anybody respond to the engine builder's post #13.....all of sudden I hear crickets chirping...... The fact is you can please some of the people all the time and all the people some of the time but never ever all the people all the time!!!!!!

Sweet Nmocean 04-26-2009 12:48 PM

It was not my engines and I don't have to provide pictures or videos, we don't have any anyhow, we just fixed all the problems ourselves and we did it right. I just know what I found and I think people should know. If it would of been mine there would of been legal action. I would hate to see somebody else get screwed like so many others in the boat industry. I really like the challenge of meeting us anywhere anytime. I will say no more.

Jammin' 04-26-2009 04:39 PM

I know when I have something done and they make obvious and stupid mistakes, I lose my faith in their ability to do it right and I don't want to take it back to them to fix.

Skullkrusher 04-26-2009 08:04 PM

Hold on a second. I don't know JTM or you, but if they aren't your engines, maybe you jumped the gun with your bashing. Before you go after someone's reputation and livlihood, you need to have your facts straight. Did you see the receipts? the dyno sheets? Maybe the rebuild was yesterday, maybe it was eleven years ago. How much was the bill? $40,000 or $38 bucks.

newfountainguy 04-27-2009 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Skullkrusher (Post 2853104)
Hold on a second. I don't know JTM or you, but if they aren't your engines, maybe you jumped the gun with your bashing. Before you go after someone's reputation and livlihood, you need to have your facts straight. Did you see the receipts? the dyno sheets? Maybe the rebuild was yesterday, maybe it was eleven years ago. How much was the bill? $40,000 or $38 bucks.

my point as well.

you can really screw up someones reputation.

NEVERSATISFIED 04-27-2009 02:28 PM

I purchased a previous owned boat that had HP500's which were just freshened by JTM prior to me purchasing the boat and had no problems with the engines. I did not have the work done and did not pay the bill but did not have any complaints.
Steve

articfriends 04-28-2009 01:22 AM

I don't know who JTM is BUT the problems described are insignifigant if they are even true (other than a o-ring missing on oil adapter)
Engine was sitting on a stand from the description-found all the oil lines loose,maybe someone screwed them on finger tight until it went in the actual boat, I do this on mine until I orient which way lines/swivels go
valve cover bolts were loose,how loose? I have had guys bring bench job transmissions in then they tear the dipstick hat seal installing it,as soon as it starts leaking they start reefing on the pan bolts then cvall me up telling me they were "loose"
Different head bolts that weren't exactly identical (as far as markings) were used,did customer pay for new ones or were old ones re-used?
If motor was knocking,had cast pistons in it,parts were charged for that weren't actually put in,lifters were installed backwards and chewed up cams,cast cranks were used when steel ones were billed out,etc,etc then I would say lets barbecue these guys but the stuff described is NOTHING compared to the typical horror storys we see on here,Smitty


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