Looking for "SeaDoo for Dad" - 108' Sunseeker
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Please note, an error has been made in my earlier post regarding the name of the new/current Captain of "Sea Doo for Dad". After chatting with my colleague in Nantucket whom has confirmed details with the marina staff at Nantucket Boat Basin, it should be noted that the "innocent" Captains name is Nathan.
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Well, I guess I have just too much time on my hands!
I was looking over the AIS info from Sea Doo for Dad and noticed that the displayed MMSI number (Maritime Mobile Service Identity) is a bogus entry. Just like a phone number (hold that thought) has a 3 digit prefix assigned to a specific area, the MMSI number has a 3 digit prefix assigned to specific flag states.
A shore based (Coast Station) MMSI number will always start with "00", fleet operations will start with “0” and a mobile or ship station would have a three digit prefix for the flag she is registered with. The thing I noticed was that the Cayman Islands, with whom Sea Doo for Dad is registered, assigns qualifying vessels with a maritime identification number (MID) "319" as the prefix for the 9 digit MMSI number.
In applying for an MMSI number, usually done when applying for the radio license, the ICT Authority requires certain criteria to be met in order for an MMSI to be assigned. I have studied a number of recent photographs sent to me of Sea Doo for Dad and can tell from the comms array atop the main deck house she wouldn’t qualify, aside from the bogus prefix of 954.
So, back to that thought on phone numbers. The MMSI number displayed with the AIS info from Sea Doo for Dad is 954 990 382. Now, we all know that a phone number is 10 digits, but, 954 happens to be the area code for Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, where, as you’re all aware by now, many of these vessels base for maintenance and down time between relocating for the next seasons cruising. Sea Doo for Dad has been a regular at Bahia Mar Yachting Center in Ft. Lauderdale according to AIS history.
If this is in fact a phone number affiliated with Sea Doo for Dad, then our dearly departed Captain is quite possibly thicker than the Hoover Dam. To find the missing number now lay with someone that has even more time on their hands than I!
Not sure what method gives the best results when looking for the missing number in a 10 digit sequence like this - I tried rolling a pair of dice, but gave up when all I could roll was a 5. There are plenty of sites on Google that can help those motivated enough to give this a shot but take heed in that this is just an assumption I have arrived at. It is of no real importance to me to identify, nor speak with Sea Doo for Dad, so I refrained from putting any money down to utilize any of options found on the internet.
I know that there are those of you that would like to have a deep and meaningful conversation with someone aboard, and be assured that if I had been affected by the actions of Sea Doo for Dad that morning I would be grateful for any info that might help me locate the perpetrator.
Here’s hoping that this long shot might lead to a colorful conversation for many of you.
I was looking over the AIS info from Sea Doo for Dad and noticed that the displayed MMSI number (Maritime Mobile Service Identity) is a bogus entry. Just like a phone number (hold that thought) has a 3 digit prefix assigned to a specific area, the MMSI number has a 3 digit prefix assigned to specific flag states.
A shore based (Coast Station) MMSI number will always start with "00", fleet operations will start with “0” and a mobile or ship station would have a three digit prefix for the flag she is registered with. The thing I noticed was that the Cayman Islands, with whom Sea Doo for Dad is registered, assigns qualifying vessels with a maritime identification number (MID) "319" as the prefix for the 9 digit MMSI number.
In applying for an MMSI number, usually done when applying for the radio license, the ICT Authority requires certain criteria to be met in order for an MMSI to be assigned. I have studied a number of recent photographs sent to me of Sea Doo for Dad and can tell from the comms array atop the main deck house she wouldn’t qualify, aside from the bogus prefix of 954.
So, back to that thought on phone numbers. The MMSI number displayed with the AIS info from Sea Doo for Dad is 954 990 382. Now, we all know that a phone number is 10 digits, but, 954 happens to be the area code for Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, where, as you’re all aware by now, many of these vessels base for maintenance and down time between relocating for the next seasons cruising. Sea Doo for Dad has been a regular at Bahia Mar Yachting Center in Ft. Lauderdale according to AIS history.
If this is in fact a phone number affiliated with Sea Doo for Dad, then our dearly departed Captain is quite possibly thicker than the Hoover Dam. To find the missing number now lay with someone that has even more time on their hands than I!
Not sure what method gives the best results when looking for the missing number in a 10 digit sequence like this - I tried rolling a pair of dice, but gave up when all I could roll was a 5. There are plenty of sites on Google that can help those motivated enough to give this a shot but take heed in that this is just an assumption I have arrived at. It is of no real importance to me to identify, nor speak with Sea Doo for Dad, so I refrained from putting any money down to utilize any of options found on the internet.
I know that there are those of you that would like to have a deep and meaningful conversation with someone aboard, and be assured that if I had been affected by the actions of Sea Doo for Dad that morning I would be grateful for any info that might help me locate the perpetrator.
Here’s hoping that this long shot might lead to a colorful conversation for many of you.
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Well - Good news / Bad News:
Letters from the owners attorney to victim(s) agree to pay for damages as per agreed-upon values based on a professional surveyor's assesment of each vessel/facility. In exchange, the victim(s) has to agree to never ever hassle the owner in any way shape or form about the incident.
The letter makes no indication of who the owners are by name, only "BB Yachting, Ltd., a Cayman Islands company".
The letter offer states "On behalf of the owner, we apologize for any inconvenience or difficulties the wake incident of July 5, 2009 may have caused your business or guests." It does not state that the owner (who is now believed to have been onboard at the time) apologizes or even cares.
So: In exchange for what the victims were due all along and a limp apology, the owner wants to be let off of every potential hook. The victims will have to choose their path...
Letters from the owners attorney to victim(s) agree to pay for damages as per agreed-upon values based on a professional surveyor's assesment of each vessel/facility. In exchange, the victim(s) has to agree to never ever hassle the owner in any way shape or form about the incident.
The letter makes no indication of who the owners are by name, only "BB Yachting, Ltd., a Cayman Islands company".
The letter offer states "On behalf of the owner, we apologize for any inconvenience or difficulties the wake incident of July 5, 2009 may have caused your business or guests." It does not state that the owner (who is now believed to have been onboard at the time) apologizes or even cares.
So: In exchange for what the victims were due all along and a limp apology, the owner wants to be let off of every potential hook. The victims will have to choose their path...
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#137
Part of me wants to think this is just chicken sh!t and ball-less. How about just a good 'ol apology, and not one written by his lap dog? I know tons of people who don't have squat in this life compared to this dude but have the decency to admit mistakes and make good on them. Seems like just another corporate wimp hiding behind his lackey attorney that we see daily in the news. I swear I'll faint when I hear of some corporate big-wig that actually grows a set and takes the responsibility.
The other part of me says that I'm glad they're getting some compensation for the incident in a timely manner even. It seems that at least they recognized the damage done and have not let it get bogged down in legal mumbo jumbo with little or no resolution. And it looks as if they got rid of the moron who captained the boat so there has been action on a few different levels. But they way it's done just leaves such a bad taste.
The other part of me says that I'm glad they're getting some compensation for the incident in a timely manner even. It seems that at least they recognized the damage done and have not let it get bogged down in legal mumbo jumbo with little or no resolution. And it looks as if they got rid of the moron who captained the boat so there has been action on a few different levels. But they way it's done just leaves such a bad taste.
#139
If the owner was on-board it seems under the circumstances more than likely that he was at the helm.
I find it difficult to believe any professional mariner would make this kind of mistake knowing full well the consequences.
I'd bet the the former Captain is the present sacrificial goat.
I find it difficult to believe any professional mariner would make this kind of mistake knowing full well the consequences.
I'd bet the the former Captain is the present sacrificial goat.
#140
Part of me wants to think this is just chicken sh!t and ball-less. How about just a good 'ol apology, and not one written by his lap dog? I know tons of people who don't have squat in this life compared to this dude but have the decency to admit mistakes and make good on them. Seems like just another corporate wimp hiding behind his lackey attorney that we see daily in the news. I swear I'll faint when I hear of some corporate big-wig that actually grows a set and takes the responsibility.
The other part of me says that I'm glad they're getting some compensation for the incident in a timely manner even. It seems that at least they recognized the damage done and have not let it get bogged down in legal mumbo jumbo with little or no resolution. And it looks as if they got rid of the moron who captained the boat so there has been action on a few different levels. But they way it's done just leaves such a bad taste.
The other part of me says that I'm glad they're getting some compensation for the incident in a timely manner even. It seems that at least they recognized the damage done and have not let it get bogged down in legal mumbo jumbo with little or no resolution. And it looks as if they got rid of the moron who captained the boat so there has been action on a few different levels. But they way it's done just leaves such a bad taste.
Just some how doesn't seem good enough.
Wow what a thread. just noticed/read it. Sorry to hear this happen. I get pissed when people plow through our cove with large boats, I can't even fathom what a 100+ footer could do. Good luck to all victims involved.




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