Went right over your head....:lolhit:

Sounds like RHR158 has a few too many personalities workin' the keyboard.

I dont mean any disrespect, it's just that some posts talk in the 3rd person??

ok so who all is posting as RHR 158? just asking so we can keep up.

I've bever been so confused!:readinghelp:

Just refer to him as "Senior Citizen M@deratur"

Give him back half his money and both parties call it good and move on.

You have essentially identical motors . Instead of literally not addressing any question presented to the builder- how about providing an answer to some questions- Please provide this audience a piece of your knowledge and experience. You are in a position to ‘teach” us all something- step up to the plate:



1) What is your timing?

2) Is your cam advanced, neutral, retarded?

3) Your final compression ratio?

4) Why do you run aviation fuel? Is it easy to fill your boat because you have access to it or do you run it for the octane value?

5) Your peak boost values?

6) Jetting- primary and secondary. Air bleed values. PV values.

7) Methanol/ Water injection- ratios to gas? Trigger points? Variable?

8) Why is your tune different than Runnin Hots?

WAITING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :popcorn::food-smiley-009:
U also mentioned 6000 'elevation at Larrys engine & marine shop where you built & dyno'd these motors would they have been rich/fattened up to take into consideration our air density at 700' elevation ??????? mmm

Hell I just want to see someones dyno sheet.. I'd love to see the hp/torque chart going off the scale.. We only have a little 540 with 740 ish hp..

Nope, not at all. You have to understand that some of the posts are from Big Bills son, who does alot of the mechanical work on his toys. I don't believe that Bills son has his own user name here, as he rarely posts.

Hope I made some sense here, I'm almost getting myself confused. :eek: LOL

Shouldn't this be moved to the beware section? We need to lighten up the mood here in the General Boating section.

If this is in courts, why are they on here making this all public? Shoudln't this be made public AFTER everything is settled in court?

I understand the severity of the situation, and I feel for both sides, but honestly, you guys sound like a bunch of kids yapping back and forth.

Most guys prefer to keep these kind of mechanical issues to themselves and work it out with the vender. Wait until he tries to sell the boat everyone will remember it as the Skater with the motors that had all of these problems. How many people do you think will be interested in buying that power either in the boat or out of it.

It is ashame when anyone has these kind of problems. However it is really getting carried away at this point.

I have been reading both of these threads and don't understand something.
The first motors lasted 200 hours, why not send them back to that builder? Did I miss that?

The first motors lasted 200 hours, why not send them back to that builder?
WILDMAN I was Sold on LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE :angry-smiley-038:when LARRY claimed to be the Methanol injection & BIG CHIEF HEAD gurus , SUPPOSEDLY all the SKATERS running around out west are powered by LARRYS engines and they were building & shipping bunchs of these motors to the SKATER plant then later to find out that STERLING MIKE D is there motor of choice .:drink: LARRY sayz 175 motors built per year but only 2 customers/cheerleaders:cheer::cheer: have spoken up that there running LARRY power in there boats ...:eek:
Believe me if i knew then what i know now i would have shipped them South and had them freshened with a hone,bearings, & rings ...:drink:

Contract and build sheets will cost more up front but saves money in the long run.
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beware section!!!!!
Your absolutely correct SLEEK1 so the OSO audience can be made aware of the :bsflag:and the promises that LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE make and dont perform.....


Heres an email i dug up from from ERIK aka LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE to seal the deal on my build & on the HP & speeds the boat would run if motors were built 100% in LARRYS shop in Tuscon ....




No problem bro!!!! Larry is a great guy, I know you would be happy with him. No gimmics, just hard ****ing work from those guys. After going through my heads from Sterling we got 81 more horsepower from each engine along with a ton more reliability!!:eek:
Get it together for Desert Storm!!! I got rooms reserved bro!!! We will have a blast all week!!! Let me know.
Yep, all Ti in the heads. We are making 1185hp :kiss:with 11 pounds of boost so I am pretty happy. Larry has made my ex Sterlings come to life.......take his advice and you will be a happy man next year. I just pulled those 39 Herrings up to 160 and had another 400 rpm to go:eek:. If you need anything else bro let me know....

Erik
520-907-39//


So if LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE is claiming/selling 160 +mph in a 40 SKATER with there 1185 hp motors s what #s can be expected from say my 1350s that they built ??? or these 1500s hp BIG DAWG motors ????? What a bunch of fibbers & b/sers :angry-smiley-038:

I don't mean to stir the pot, but at the beginning of this thread you liked the builder, now you are bashing him and calling him incompetant... all within a few days... ???

Wrong !!!!!!!!!!! this is his thread and i jumped into to defend allegations of saving meth,old gas,parts Pistons,rings, gaskets they were eating when Larry recognized the timing problem after meltdown and now sayz BIG CHIEF HEADS like 27-28 degree timing not 34 ,and sent and decided to invoice 2weeks later .. ....during the Build i was a believer in them and even stuck up for Larrys ENGINE when others bldrs said it could'nt be done and needed whirples ,but not at Larrys Engine he even sold me on needing 1671 roots blowers that he machined/installed and was paid for ... ...I was very Gullable and was SOLD on his ideas huge #s ,speeds,200 hour till refresh and 10 hour oil changes,and 30 hour valve adjustments .... these motors will be reliable they are carbon copy of ERIKS just check oil,gas her up and enjoy ...:drink:

i really hope both sides can work this out

Pump Gas Bill....
 

I'm not sure why you keep saying are motors are exactly alike?????

They are completely opposite.

Mine still run................yours do not. :kiss:

Not saying this is the case but there is no such thing as just gas up and enjoy when it comes to running 1200 horse blower motors. No matter who builds the motor, there needs to be some level of user awareness at that performance level. Just for example Making sure it has proper water pressure, fuel pressure, timing is set in the boat not just on the dyno, knowledge if the motor is detonating or running properly etc.

:angry-smiley-038::rolleyes:

man you look like more of a loser every time you open your mouth, larry sent the motors with one bolt in the stand:lolhit:, after he said the stands sucked and charger to weld them. but its funny that they worked fine before, and since then you and him look like a tool, why cause you put down people on here that don't see eye to eye with you but do with Bill and if someone does not own a old skater they don't now chit. and there have been a lot of people showing there dyno sheets to share with others not put them down you do and about the heads all the guys I know agree 32 or 34 timing with 8.5 to one or9.5 to1 is crazy on BC HEADS a smart builder would sold him new heads that don't need all attention that BC do thats why a friend went to turbines he was tired of all the attention BC head engines need. with todays heads out on the market you don't need the bullchit. and you were the one talking him in to go to larrys instead of saying sorry and being a man you chit on Bill so to all the guys that hang with you watch your backs:evilb:

1200 horse blower motors

HUSTLER my just check oil,gas her up and enjoy was meant as RELIABLE and not wrenching everyday ... Keep in mind my motors before going to LARRYS they were 1150+ HP on 93 octane with Methanol injection set at 9 lbs with 200+ hours and were dyno'd here locally before they were shipped to TUSCON and LARRY was gonna wave his makic wand and make 1350+ reliable same set-up we had .... They were reliable ,check oil,300 gallons of fuel,and watching fuel pressure,water pressure,oil pressure ,pyros,EGTS were normal operating procedure.... I will get the dyno sheet and attach :drink: There are a some bldrs on OSO ( 1 in Tenn ,another in Maryland comes to mind) that have 1200 +hp motors out there with 200 hours plus and they are not GERNADES and just run & run & run :drink:

Boy you it that right on the head.You cant fix stupid.

Bill you forgot that you had the slowest skater in the country and were more concerned with making 1300 hp than you were reliability.You even told me 138mph was the fastest you had seen.:lolhit:

First, learn how to spell so I can read what you type.

Second, "watch your back", is that a threat????

Motherf*cker I will come to you so you can say that to my face. F*cking p*ssy.

Didnt powerboat magazine run a test when the 900 poker run motors came out , as well as I remember they did 140 in a 40 skater.Is this correct?

Show me that in writing BIG Daddy , your forgetting all my facts are in emails and in writing yours are whatever you feel like writing or remember for the day ..... Larry has to be proud of you :lolhit: If it was'nt for your ranting & cheerleading the threads would have made 1 or 2 pages and been in OSO archives ....

SLOWEST SKATER :eek: maybe now Bro what you fail to remember is i never had a problem in the last 2 years at the poker runs/events we ran in ..... I guess thats how you kill 2 birds with 1 stone in Tuscon you phuch up customers good power plants that way they dont run any against you & you still fill your pockets $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ LOOKS like a win win for LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE :angry-smiley-038:

138!!! Pump Gas Bill you are moving up!!!!!!

I thought it was 128!!!!!:lolhit:

my engine builder sets my timing on my motors and never had had timing troubles in the 15yrs I used him, it should be set on the dyno for how they want it to run in the boat and all you should have to do is set your idle and sometimes rejet. and Bill has user awareness be real. I know that warning lights work real well on boats when you have a ton of gauges cause if yor going 80 or 180 you can't look and study every gauge but red lights!!! your eyes pick up quick and can save you from sinking to loosing a motor. more engine builders should tell there customers to use them I think. well good luck Bill that paint came out great:coolcowboy:

my engine builder sets my timing on my motors and never had had timing troubles in the 15yrs I used him:eek:, it should be set on the dyno for how they want it to run in the boat and all you should have to do is set your idle and sometimes rejet



*** Thanks ARTIE and a very good point you make , my phone rings off the hook all day over these 2 threads and have recvd calls from at least 6 well known engine bldrs from OSO and every one of them has stated BIG CHIEF HEADS are known for small combustion chambers & they do not like more then 26,27,28 Degree timing maximum and there motors timing is set and marked for identification so they can tell if timing has been moved ... Mine came in sealed crates for LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE with a note that said DO NOT RUN motor AT 34 degrees reset to 32 degrees ....:eek: HOW MANY ENGINE BLDRS send motors out the door for customers to set themselves ???

phuck head no that meant that you turned on bill in a second oh buddy buddy, you were his friend one minute and then turned on him azz and you can come here I will pick you up at the airport azzhole, since your so rich and better then us non skater owners. I never threaten anyone on here, but you can come here call me a p@ssy and I always let the other guy swing 1st I have a very hard head:D that way I am just defending myself see what happens bro!!! it won't cost you more than a couple 100 to come here, already invited one smart azz I even waited at the airport for him never showed:grinser010:. and spelling yours is not spot on anymore than mine:grinser010: as I was saying if I SAID TO A FRIEND HEY USE JIM RIED TO BUILD YOUR MOTORS my old builder who is a fine one at that. and they blew up I would not call the guy I invited to stay at my place for week to party a azzhole and dum phuck like you did to Bill you phucked a friend thats having problems with a builder you use you stab Bill in the back aka watch your back . that is not a threat moron so yah get it now I don't come on here to threaten people. I get enough practice right here in brockton, I come on here to talk help people if I can . your builder phucked up 1st with the shipping then the timing why would a builder set timing at 34 degrees and ship it. you set it at what it should be in the boat or lower NOT HIGHER GET IT

NONE NONE NONE !!!!hey I got to go, need to head to the gym with wife again two days in a row:eek:, I need to beat on some weights so I aint getting in trouble later at Doleys pub I need a happy face after reading this bulchit, once again sorry about the pain you are going through and that people who you though were friends are kicking you while your down

I knew a guy who had your problem in high school. He was a good football player but couldn't read or write......the teachers just passed him because he played good ball. Shame what happened to him........

Did the teachers just pass you too?? I can get you a number to call.......no student left behind!!!!!!

[QUOTE=40FlatDeck;2925664]I knew a guy arry who had your problem in high school. He was a good football player but couldn't read or write......the teachers just passed him because he played good ball. Shame what happened to him........

Oh Chit !!!!!!!!!!:eek: Let me guess and now he's a ENGINE BLDR in sunny Arizona OH PHUCH ....:lolhit:
Shame what happened to him........ :kiss:
U should of been a circus clown

If the timing is set on the dyno using the Ignition box that is on the dyno it needs to be reverified when it goes in the boat. Usually it will always end up slightly different if you are dynoing with one ignition box and using a different one in the boat. However if the ignition box is the same you dyno'd with, then you should be fine.

[QUOTE=RunninHotRacing158;2925668]It is so easy making fun of you guys..

Anytime you type you give me ammo.

The best part of it is, sometimes I make fun of you and you don't even realize it!!!!!:lolhit:

that's it flag pole after school:lolhit:

HUSTLER just to Clarify all my components were sent to LARRYS ENGINE & MARINE and job built and completed with my MSD boxes,distributors,electronics and shipped back to dress & install ...:drink:same way it was ran last 2 years ...200 + hours



They do make some nice CRATES for damage free shipping:kiss: