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carcrash 09-24-2009 11:46 AM

Oxford is a private equity company. Their investors are not disclosed. For less than the cost of his new house, some secret investor can own the company. If RF happened to be that secret investor, he would be effectively earning well over $15million in a very down year for the boating industry. Seems clever to me. FPB has never made that much after tax before.

I don't know if I am right, but this hypothesis fits all the data I have seen.

VtSteve 09-24-2009 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by carcrash (Post 2959686)
Oxford is a private equity company. Their investors are not disclosed. For less than the cost of his new house, some secret investor can own the company. If RF happened to be that secret investor, he would be effectively earning well over $15million in a very down year for the boating industry. Seems clever to me. FPB has never made that much after tax before.

I don't know if I am right, but this hypothesis fits all the data I have seen.

Reggie would have a decent tax loss, assuming his cost basis is reasonably high. Other than that, I don;t see how any money directly flows through to him now, unless you're saying the unrealized gain on the perceived value of the assets they'd buy in October are worth that. It's quite possible that RF secured a sweetheart deal to end up owning a high percentage of the reorganized company, which would still owe Oxford for whatever they paid for the note.

What the heck, I'd rather have some percentage in the new company than 51% of a company that's leveraged to their eyebrows and then some. He didn't get where he is today by being stupid, that's pretty obvious.

boatme 09-24-2009 01:09 PM

I think i heard a great sigh of relief from Reggie all the way over here in Michigan

If i were him I would be relieved that some of the pressure is over

I know alot think he will get back into it, but what a great time to retire and just become a consultant or beach bum :)

carcrash 09-24-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by VtSteve (Post 2959737)
Reggie would have a decent tax loss, assuming his cost basis is reasonably high. Other than that, I don;t see how any money directly flows through to him now, unless you're saying the unrealized gain on the perceived value of the assets they'd buy in October are worth that. It's quite possible that RF secured a sweetheart deal to end up owning a high percentage of the reorganized company, which would still owe Oxford for whatever they paid for the note.

What the heck, I'd rather have some percentage in the new company than 51% of a company that's leveraged to their eyebrows and then some. He didn't get where he is today by being stupid, that's pretty obvious.

That is exactly what I meant.

carcrash 09-24-2009 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 2959743)
I think i heard a great sigh of relief from Reggie all the way over here in Michigan

If i were him I would be relieved that some of the pressure is over

I know alot think he will get back into it, but what a great time to retire and just become a consultant or beach bum :)

You may easily be right. I'm guessing he can't imagine walking away, you are guessing he's done this long enough, time to move on. In the end, I think Reggie will be in great shape no matter how it all goes down.

nauti1 09-24-2009 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by boatme (Post 2959743)
I think i heard a great sigh of relief from Reggie all the way over here in Michigan

If i were him I would be relieved that some of the pressure is over

I know alot think he will get back into it, but what a great time to retire and just become a consultant or beach bum :)

i got a friend in washington. she heard reggie was going to open a new facility in town. have you seen his house? imagine the payment on that monster.

boatme 09-24-2009 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by nauti1 (Post 2959971)
i got a friend in washington. she heard reggie was going to open a new facility in town. have you seen his house? imagine the payment on that monster.

Nope never seen it anyone have a picture

BrettM 09-25-2009 08:56 AM

I have a pic of his house but cannot post pics anymore. It is a very nice home!

boatme 09-25-2009 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by nebraskabaja (Post 2960320)
I have a pic of his house but cannot post pics anymore. It is a very nice home!

If you have a mailing adress we can probably pull it up on google earth and get a birds eye view

tblrklakemo 09-25-2009 09:59 AM

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