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mikebrls 02-07-2010 08:04 PM

Ol On Tv Tonight
 
they where saying that the 46 will run 100 mph in 8 to 10 footer's comfortibly . i just dont see that to be a true statment .
8 to 10 footer's would be some big water to run 100 mph in, if you where not in a race boat and even then that would be fast .
has anyone ben in a 46 runing a 100 mph in that type of water ?

thank's
mike

stainless 02-07-2010 08:12 PM

not so much.

Catmando 02-07-2010 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 3041320)
they where saying that the 46 will run 100 mph in 8 to 10 footer's comfortibly . i just dont see that to be a true statment .
8 to 10 footer's would be some big water to run 100 mph in, if you where not in a race boat and even then that would be fast .
has anyone ben in a 46 runing a 100 mph in that type of water ?

thank's
mike

Maybe their cats but probly not the Vs.

stainless 02-07-2010 09:12 PM

More like 40 in 8-10's

Sydwayz 02-07-2010 09:37 PM

I've seen Mike Fiore personally run a 46 in some snotty 6-8+ Lake Michigan water, with huge 10-12 foot holes at times. We were running 40-45mph max when it was rough. He was maybe 10-15mph faster than the rest of the pack.

GATORONE 02-07-2010 09:53 PM

We have run my old 47 GTX 100+ in that type of water

Sydwayz 02-07-2010 10:02 PM

I think it all depends on the definition of "comfortably"; and everyone has their own yardstick. Mine is about as accurate as my hearing; just ask my girlfriend. :D

mikebrls 02-07-2010 10:17 PM

i know the boat will run that speed , but you will need some wing's becuase you will be flying most of the time . and im sure you would only want 2 peep's in the boat , one driving and one in the next bolster, and know one in the back otherwise they will be swimming :)

GATORONE 02-07-2010 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 3041418)
I think it all depends on the definition of "comfortably"; and everyone has their own yardstick. Mine is about as accurate as my hearing; just ask my girlfriend. :D

I agree...We have run poker runs with people in the boat at those speeds and it takes alot of work... But true big V bottoms can eat some pretty big water

Driveguy 02-07-2010 10:22 PM

no F!!!!KING way .

tppaulfowler 02-07-2010 10:30 PM

have ran in big water in my 50v nortech, but it weighed 18,000 lbs, at 60mph, don't believe 10's at 100mph, no way

GATORONE 02-08-2010 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by tppaulfowler (Post 3041438)
have ran in big water in my 50v nortech, but it weighed 18,000 lbs, at 60mph, don't believe 10's at 100mph, no way

Two different boats

Audiofn 02-08-2010 07:40 AM

I don't know what you guys consider 8-10's but go outside your house and look up to your roof (average 1 story) and that is 8 feet. Anyone that can even run 40 in that I would have to tip my hat to. :D

johnlomant 02-08-2010 07:47 AM

I want a 47 gtx so I can try it out. They are bad ass regardless of their claim.

customryder 02-08-2010 08:33 AM

funny stuff...

AIR TIME 02-08-2010 09:52 AM

one of the roughest races was in 02 the cape race those were 6footers in the morning with a 8footer here and there broke my bolsters in the 1st lap and most of the small boats ran 45 or under in the afternoon it got a lil better but the big boats only ran 65 , they were uneven straight up with big holes. two yrs later they called the race off it was calmer out but more wind 5footers we ran 65 to 75 in boxer sutphen 31ft and a36ft skater took a test run at 90 to 100:evilb:

AIR TIME 02-08-2010 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by GATORONE (Post 3041514)
Two different boats

I could see that 47gtx do that saw mike run one of the 1st 42gtx boats in a poker run in 02 7 to 8 footers of newport RI. always rough out there 80% of the time.

GATORONE 02-08-2010 09:59 AM

Mike, was always in the boat with me...problem with this site is most people don't believe it if they have never done it or don't have a boat capable of doing it.. . You have two choices in that water go slow and get wet and beat or go fast and get on top and hang on

sommerfliesby 02-08-2010 10:06 AM

Bill and Brian...I'm sure you are referring to the Chicago Poker Run on both counts. Waves that day were 6-8 feet, not 10...although there were some huge holes thrown in.

Why not run that fast...if you've got the wallet to repair the damage.

GATORONE 02-08-2010 10:11 AM

I have run in big water numerous times with that boat....I agree Chicago that year was 6-8 ft with an occasional big hole and we ran the boat well over a 100 to the first stop and had no issues with anything on the boat and had nothing to repair unlike many

sommerfliesby 02-08-2010 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by GATORONE (Post 3041613)
I have run in big water numerous times with that boat....I agree Chicago that year was 6-8 ft with an occasional big hole and we ran the boat well over a 100 to the first stop and had no issues with anything on the boat and had nothing to repair unlike many

Shhh! Lot's of new boats from all KINDS of manufacturers didn't hold up so well on that day...:drink:

Every pic I have of the GTX on that day she is flying perfectly level.

ONESICKGLADIATOR 02-08-2010 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by GATORONE (Post 3041604)
Mike, was always in the boat with me...problem with this site is most people don't believe it if they have never done it or don't have a boat capable of doing it.. . You have two choices in that water go slow and get wet and beat or go fast and get on top and hang on

Well said Bill
Rick OSG

mikebrls 02-08-2010 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 3041518)
I don't know what you guys consider 8-10's but go outside your house and look up to your roof (average 1 story) and that is 8 feet. Anyone that can even run 40 in that I would have to tip my hat to. :D

that is what im talking about .
i know alot of these lake guy's think 3 to 4 footer'a are 8 to 10's but like you said . think of going a 100mph into a wave that is the size of a single story on a house . i know you can do it but it wont be comfortable if anything you will be holding on for your life .
i just couldnt believe that ol would make a statement like that .
now you will see some dumb rich guy by one of these boat and try it because thats what he herd on the tv . then we will see him on tv very hurt if not dead .

GATORONE 02-08-2010 02:04 PM

Have you ever been in a big ol in big water?

Jupiter Sunsation 02-08-2010 02:09 PM

There are a lot of BSr's online.............Gatorone isn't one of them!

Guy has been faster in boats than most people have in cars! If he says a 47 GTX will run 100 in big water.........believe him. :D

Audiofn 02-08-2010 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3041817)
There are a lot of BSr's online.............Gatorone isn't one of them!

Guy has been faster in boats than most people have in cars! If he says a 47 GTX will run 100 in big water.........believe him. :D

I don't doubt for one min. he has gone faster then I ever will. My statement is just that most people do not know how to measure a wave. There are a ton of ways to do it but I was on one of my customers boats (78 foot sport fish) and we were in what we called 8 foot and I was not sure the boat was not going to break apart.

This is a good example of different ways to measure waves (cresting not swells) and you can see that if you are in Hawaii they are serious about thier waves. :D

http://www.yosurfer.com/content/mete..._wave_size.htm

This is a very cool site that you can check wave heights around the world. Click on the maps and see how very few places around the world have 10 foot high or more wave heights. Then look at what is going on in that area and see you or any sane person would be boating in that.

http://www.oceanweather.com/data/

joker 02-08-2010 02:34 PM

I can verify that poker run in 02 off Newport. I was running right next to Mike in my 42gtx and there was a 42 legacy as well. All three of us were running between 90 and 100 and they were easily 8 footers. Everyone else turned around.

sommerfliesby 02-08-2010 02:47 PM

Even the Apaches?!?

joker 02-08-2010 02:57 PM

No Apaches there on that run.

The Get Away 02-08-2010 03:25 PM

What time and what channel?

mikebrls 02-08-2010 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by GATORONE (Post 3041810)
Have you ever been in a big ol in big water?

i know the boat will run that speed with a very expericend driver in that type of water but it Will Not be comfy to drive in . let alone be safe to drive in , that's all i am trying to say .
they make a great boat one of the best but he was a litle misleading, i think as far as anyone can run the boat in 8 to 10's @ 100mph and be comfy is a bold statment .


mike

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-08-2010 05:57 PM

While an Outerlimits is an outstanding V-Bottom I truly think that running 8-10's at over 100mph is a far fetched statement. It definitely easy to say one thing and then totally different in many situations to actually prove it. You might be stoned and think the speedo said 100mph and u might have only been in 6's. It is a great boat but that statement was very far fetched.

GATORONE 02-08-2010 06:37 PM

I think I'm one of the few on here that can and has backed up what the say....you are probably right they were 2 ft:eek::drink:

OL40SVX 02-08-2010 08:41 PM

First off it's a TV show and listen to Bill, he's been there and done that!!:D

Enough 4 Play 02-08-2010 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by mikebrls (Post 3041739)
that is what im talking about .
i know alot of these lake guy's think 3 to 4 footer'a are 8 to 10's but like you said . think of going a 100mph into a wave that is the size of a single story on a house . i know you can do it but it wont be comfortable if anything you will be holding on for your life .
i just couldnt believe that ol would make a statement like that .
now you will see some dumb rich guy by one of these boat and try it because thats what he herd on the tv . then we will see him on tv very hurt if not dead .

You need to boat on Lake Michigan if you think that we are Lake boaters that think 3 to 4s are 8 footers. 3 to 4s are a calm day on Lake Michigan. I have ridden in a 47 GTX on Lake Michigan in some of the nastiest 6 to 8 foot waves at 100mph. It did not matter what direction you ran across the waves that Big V just ate it up. Not hard to believe Gatorone at all as he has been on Lake Michigan and knows what rough water is all about.

customryder 02-09-2010 09:26 AM

10' waves (real) at 100mph... is this true...?

if so you guys have gonzalies the size of coconuts..

rchevelle71 02-09-2010 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 3041832)
I don't doubt for one min. he has gone faster then I ever will. My statement is just that most people do not know how to measure a wave. There are a ton of ways to do it but I was on one of my customers boats (78 foot sport fish) and we were in what we called 8 foot and I was not sure the boat was not going to break apart.

This is a good example of different ways to measure waves (cresting not swells) and you can see that if you are in Hawaii they are serious about thier waves. :D

http://www.yosurfer.com/content/mete..._wave_size.htm

This is a very cool site that you can check wave heights around the world. Click on the maps and see how very few places around the world have 10 foot high or more wave heights. Then look at what is going on in that area and see you or any sane person would be boating in that.

http://www.oceanweather.com/data/

Look at what they are calling 10 foot on that site, and I say NO WAY can anything run in that water:eek: Now I realize that this is the break of the wave, but heck 10 feet is 10 feet. Even if you could run 100 in that, why would you?? More $$ than brains comes to mind:party-smiley-004:

Audiofn 02-09-2010 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by rchevelle71 (Post 3042634)
Look at what they are calling 10 foot on that site, and I say NO WAY can anything run in that water:eek: Now I realize that this is the break of the wave, but heck 10 feet is 10 feet. Even if you could run 100 in that, why would you?? More $$ than brains comes to mind:party-smiley-004:

Well you have the wave measurement that is the cresting wave, and the swell measurement that is a non breaking wave ussually "offshore". Then there are the wave cycles and and and. There is a TON that goes into it. I have been out in 15-20 foot swells running wide open. It was the same as driving up and down mountains in your car. They were smooth as glass and spaced WAY apart. It was actually one of the coolest days of boating I have ever had. You would drop down to the bottom of the swells and you had no idea what was around you, just these monster waves. I don't think that is what they are talking about in this case however.

rchevelle71 02-09-2010 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Audiofn (Post 3042666)
Well you have the wave measurement that is the cresting wave, and the swell measurement that is a non breaking wave ussually "offshore". Then there are the wave cycles and and and. There is a TON that goes into it. I have been out in 15-20 foot swells running wide open. It was the same as driving up and down mountains in your car. They were smooth as glass and spaced WAY apart. It was actually one of the coolest days of boating I have ever had. You would drop down to the bottom of the swells and you had no idea what was around you, just these monster waves. I don't think that is what they are talking about in this case however.

YES,

Swells are different, spaced that way. I am honestly a chicken chit when it comes to the ruff, I run the pantera inside more than outside, and honestly dont like to run in more than 3 feet of slop, its fun for about 15 minutes, but our inlets are further apart than that. Late last fall, my wife gave me a bunch of crap for always going boating with friends, and leaving her home(its really her own fault because she cant dedicate a whole day to running around, or just hangin at peanut), She really could care less about the boating, but gets pizzed when I call her from the bar/restaurant. So one sunday when my normal boating buddies were taking the week off, I took her out Boca inlet, and started to run south to Hillsboro to take her to the Cove for lunch. There were some nice swells, but no slop, and nowhere near 10 feet, probably more like 6, was pretty neat, because as light as my boat is, I usually throttle quite a bit in the slop, but that day it was WOT to top, then throttle back just enough to stay in/near the water, and ride down the hill:drink: If that is what they are referring to as 10 footers, then I can agree on 100MPH, since due to the size and construction of the OL, I wouldnt be afraid to get a little air off the backside of something like that, but when it comes to the everyday slop we are used to, 10 foot at 100?? I would have to see the video to believe it. Also, there may be a few drivers/throttleman out there that can pull it off, but I certaily wouldnt suggest doing it on a regular basis, or making a potential customer believe that its all in the boat, maybe the boat can survive it when run by the right crew, but one too many missed throttles by an unexperienced person, and we will be hearing about it on the news.

DPT MOTORSPORTS 02-09-2010 04:44 PM

Saying it was 10ft and really being 6ft are to totally different things.


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