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Old 02-13-2010, 07:45 PM
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Everyone seems to be tough on the Cigarette/AMG deal. I dont know what everyone was expecting considering boat builders are giong out of business daily. Now is not the time for Cigarette or any boat builder to reinvent the wheel. This was a nice PR deal that got people talking and hopefully will introduce some Mercedes people to the Cigarette brand.
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I actually kinda liked this boat. Could loose the AMG from the side though. That Merc 1350 is insane.
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There isnt anything about the boat that i dont like from the pics...Home run to have the first boat with the new turbos!
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I don't think amg helped them with the turbo motors - in their whole history they have never built a turbocharged engine.

Never in the history has MB built a turbocharged engine? LOL You just flushed your own credibility down the $hitter. Besides all the turbo diesels......there have been quote a few AMG cars with turbos. One of the hottest ones right now is the AMG Black Series.




VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door coupe


ESTIMATED BASE PRICE: $300,000


ENGINE TYPE: twin-turbocharged and intercooled SOHC 36-valve V-12, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection

Displacement: 365 cu in, 5980cc
Power (SAE net): 661 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 738 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm


TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting


DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 100.8 in Length: 180.6 in Width: 77.2 in Height: 50.6 in
Curb weight: 4350 lb


PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.9 sec
Standing -mile: 11.4 sec
Top speed (governor limited): 199 mph

PROJECTED FUEL ECONOMY (C/D EST):
EPA city driving: 11 mpg
EPA highway driving: 18 mpg
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I got the scoop on the motors right from one of Mercurys Racing big wigs. A few years back Mercury started the development on the 1300 engine. Between the economy going in the toilet and some other factors Brunswick didn't want to continue with the 1300 engine product. Fred Kiekhaefer decided to back/ fund the R&D of the entire project. Most of the components were developed overseas. There was actually a lot of input from Formula One parts manufactures. The reason most of the work was done over seas..."If the parts were developed here, people would not be able to keep their mouths shut and let the cat out of the bag"!

The motor is incredible. It is tuned at 1350 but by changing some air intake stuff it can immediately put out 1450. They say it is so over engineered that these motors will be putting out 1600 hp when people start tweaking them.

The idle at 600 RPM and are more user friendly for docking then the 525's.

The trannies are a 14 plate rather then the standard 11 plates that others use.

The drive is totally redesigned. They said the motors have so much torque the entire system had to be redeveloped as nothing else would be able to hold up to the torque.

I think the AMG Cigarette is cool. Skip s a marketing genius and has turned Cigarette around. You have to remember Mercedes and AMG are pretty conservative. If they had their hand in designing the boat, it would explain why it isn't very loud.

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The thing I liked most of the AMG Cig is that it has the old school look with bad azz twins inside the hatch. I envy the team who takes her out through Goverment Cut on her maiden voyage in 4 footers....
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Since when does conservative have to be boring? I think that's the real question, after all the hype it's just something painted to resemble a U boat..


With a very cool drivetrain..
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Phuck the boat.....I want a SLS
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Someone started up the car in the booth on Monday. It was revved once and shut off immediately.

I can't imagine that went over to well seeing as the the Fire Marshall says NO gasoline or diesel are allowed in the building.
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Never in the history has MB built a turbocharged engine? LOL You just flushed your own credibility down the $hitter. Besides all the turbo diesels......there have been quote a few AMG cars with turbos. One of the hottest ones right now is the AMG Black Series.




VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door coupe


ESTIMATED BASE PRICE: $300,000


ENGINE TYPE: twin-turbocharged and intercooled SOHC 36-valve V-12, aluminum block and heads, port fuel injection

Displacement: 365 cu in, 5980cc
Power (SAE net): 661 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 738 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm


TRANSMISSION: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting


DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 100.8 in Length: 180.6 in Width: 77.2 in Height: 50.6 in
Curb weight: 4350 lb


PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.9 sec
Standing -mile: 11.4 sec
Top speed (governor limited): 199 mph

PROJECTED FUEL ECONOMY (C/D EST):
EPA city driving: 11 mpg
EPA highway driving: 18 mpg
I think this black series SL makes the SLS look weak. Talk about a raw, powerful look.
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