38 Scarab AVS will run about 78-80mph with 500's
382 Formula Fastec will run 72-74mph with 500's.
I don't think you will see a dramatic difference in the rough water ride.

Hey thanks for all the deep and penetrating thoughts on how to use these boats. I also heard that the Scarab would be faster yet it doesn't have the swim platform or the notched transom of the Formula, i.e. it has a longer wetted surface. I wonder why that is.


PS t500hps you sold your boat??

first week of FEB to the first guy that came to see it.......actually had another guy call just days earlier saying he would buy it, then his current boat deal fell through (that guy never got here to see it). Full asking price and afterward he asked "why so cheap" )

Congrats on the sale. What's next?

I see some mention of Sonic's on here so .... what about a 45 with trip 525 EFI's loaded up real well? Shore power, custom extended swim platform, AC, generator, binimi top w/ full enclosure, TV/DVD, convertible lounge/berth with table, list just goes on, and it runs into the 80's on stock power. If of interest you can call 315-482-9931 and ask for Mark Lalonde, or check it out at www.hutchinsonsboatworks.com . Look in the used section.

The Formula is a little heavier and the AVS hull is faster.

Thanks for all the Sonic info guys but I'm looking for a stepped hull only. Let's face it - non stepped resale has been tough lately. I think for my use I am most interested in the Scarab although the Formula is a beautiful boat. If any body has/knows of a super clean 38 AVS w/ 500 EFI's let me know. Or a 38 Formula...Or a 37 Active Thunder

Scarab is a hard sale too because they don't make them anymore But I like it better than the Formula. On a older Formula you should be ok but they have such good intrest rates on new ones it makes it hard to sell. If you want the best resale in that range and big water ride you might want to look at a Top Gun, or a Active Thunder also. The Cig will be the best ride and a easy resell to the rest.

I will say up front that I have not been in an AVS but...

Build quality of Formula Vs. Scarab is not even a contest. Formula build quality is second to none. Every Scarab I have been on or seen are so-so. Between the two the Formula wins hands down...

Donzi may offer you something too. ZR for speed, ZX for comfort.

i got to say one thing you say resale is a big thing both boats are nice but here is the big ???? parts on the boat?? HOW MANY YEARS DO THEY STOCK PARTS FOR THAT BOAT????? DOORS WINDSHEID SEATS ANY THING TO DO WITH THE BOAT. I FOUND THAT I HAD TO CUSTOM MAKE PARTS FOR BOTH OF MY BOATS .I HAVE A BAJA AND A FORMULA .SO YOU MIGTH WANT TO SEE HOW MANY YEARS THEY STOCK PARTS FOR THAT BOAT ??????? GOOD LUCK