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Old 03-12-2010, 02:33 PM
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LOL.....I was just going to post something similar! There's two way to win.....get faster, or get them slower. You could hide a few hundred pounds of sandbags in the bow of his boat somewhere.......or you could always rub some snake oil all over the bottom of your boat.

Or he could put some on his dads and he would win.
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He is faster by a lot or a little?

Give us some details on the boats. Hours, EFI/Carb, Props.

What speed are you seeing at what RPM?
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Have not run boat yet-has carbed stock merc.500h.p. w/bravo drives-It has 119 hours-mint condition,well cared for-props need polishing-so where can I get another mile or two w/out spending big bucks. thanks
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Is his 96' a flat-bottom and your 99' a single step?

Upgrade to the 741 Cam might help you a bit and have the props labbed!

Lastly, completely gut the cabin...

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Have not run boat yet-.......
Not following. How do you know then?
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Old 03-12-2010, 06:44 PM
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Best props on my '99 with 500 carbs were the stock 26 Hydro Quad 4's and the 28 Merc labbed Bravo's. Speed was pretty much the same with both sets, Hydros felt better at speed, Bravos cruised and came on plane a little better, both sets were right there at 5300 - 5400 rpm.

Sometimes age and experience have an edge! I remember back years ago when I had a 32 Velocity with tweeked 525 SC's, my son was real good with the boat, but the old man could always pull a couple more out of it. Good luck! Just remember that "respect your elders deal".
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First thing check the bottom. Make sure it does not have a hook in it. If you do not know how have someone who does check it. It can cost you 3-5 MPH. Fountains are bad to have this problem, as others do also, because the hulls take a while to cure out. Setting on a trailer or boat lift while it cures will cause a hook. Not so prone after a year of so. My 38 ran 114 when new, one later it ran 110. Had the factory check it and it had a hook. Fixed it and it now runs like it is supposed to.
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As long as dad has more money than you do he will alway's be faster. A time tested fact !!! Just my .02
That is the best input all together. We try to think otherwise, but the most $ wins. But I trully love the father/son relationship. I'm jealous ( my Dad is no longer with us )
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First thing check the bottom.



What is the critical area to check out here, from the transom up to the first step?
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Use a long straight edge and place it at several places on the bottom running surface. If you can see light between the front edge and the rear it has a hook. Doesn't take much to suck the boat down and not let it get up and run. Measure from rear toward the front. Mostly extreme bottom and out to the first strake. WHere the bunks of the trailer ride.
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