ohhhh whatever............
Hey.....as stated earlier "optional" ..... single anything and/or - try twin LSA supercharged small blocks (ctsV ZR1 ) at least in one of the first 5 boats to see how it runs.

just my 2-pennies.........of thought.

When I think of true OFFSHORE boats, 28 footers don't come to mind. Anyway, like what you like, I'll never go back to a single.

And you have a very good thought with the twin LS small blocks, I like it. I am indiffferent on whether OL builds the boat with twins or a single, get to building....As stated on another website, this thread is a good marketing effort, and has generated interest in their 28' product, hopefully they will have as much success in sales and on water as this thread has generated in product interest. If you build it, the boat will sell....We are all interested.

Animalhouse,

When is production scheduled for this 28' boat? With what power (size/manufacturer) will this first 28' boat have? When will it hit the water? How much $$$,$$$ for this first boat. These are fair questions, and you may have a real prospect reading this thread. Good luck with your build, I am sure it will be a very nice boat.

Tex Fountain does not build a 32 single, so for those of us in the know I was refering to the 27 and 29 Fever models, you still haven't countered my claim, in that size range a single is more valuble to most people, look up the boats on traderonline. Yes we all are entitled to our own opinions, I am only stating mine. You are welcome to disagree but please do so in a respectful mannor and provide insight to your conclusions, or your just being rude. Maybe you know more than OL and you should go become a builder. :evilb:

The only "book" that ever bought anything is the checkbook. There is a $20k swing on my 99 model Baja in a twin vs. single comparison.
A twin engine boat will burn less fuel than a single at cruise speeds the same as a triple will burn less than a twin in a cruise (set mph comparison between both boats). The maint. is more but fuel is a non-factor. Who buys a boat for fuel mileage anyway?

I think that a single 525/XR package would be the way to go to keep the boat affordable, plus it would show strong performance numbers.

The 525/NXT might be a great option, however prop availability (cleaver) may still be limited for a single application. Could take time to get it dialed in given that... I would say it depends on how much time you have to get it out the door.

Ten years ago we didnt have dependable power and drive packages that could push heavy single engine 28-32 footers at decent speeds. Twins were the only way to get there. Technology has brought about some great single Offshore options.

Great idea!

That's true. You're right. I was referring to the 28-30 range specifically.

Ilmor 725

Definately a single big block in a 28' Outerlimits. Considering you are targeting 90 mph with a 525, there is no need for twins in a hull this efficient.

Unless you want more weight, cost, maintenance and a crowded engine compartment.

I want one with a canopy and 525 bravo xr w/ITS so I can run with the SVLs.these boats are running in the mid to low 90s with this package.That would be one gorgeous boat!!!!!

I do know of new builder building a 29 single step boat in the near future. It has proven race capabilities and very affordable. I think the first few are being offered with 525 and run 100 mph. The whole total package is 100k. That is a sweet deal.

100 mph with a single 525???

100 with a single 525???

Yes the boat is a single. The bottom is single step and is awesome in the rough.

The 525 is stock. No work has been done. Brand new with its and shorty. Vacumed bagged and full balsa cored.

That will be interesting...if its a 29 Warlock SVL that dose 100mph with a 525...that will be impressive...the Extreme's and Phathom's have been doing a lot of testing to get to the low 90's...

Best of luck....and it will be good to see another Manufacture in the SVL running

I like the idea of a LSX SBC Whipple Supercharged motor that makes 1000hp with a Imco SCX drive. that would be a great package, light and stupid fast.

But for the first boat out I think it needs to be a stock package so people have some real numbers for comparison. So I think the 525 XR is a good way to go. Then the buyer can throw a Whipple on the 525 and have a real screamer.


The drawings look sick, Good Job OL!! I cant wait to see it in person.

MP

no. there wont be a svl warlock. I am talking about a pleasure boat. Sorry

Warlock, are you talking about tuff's?

How about a couple Raylar LSM-550's? NA engines running 89 octane. Nice fast lightweight package with Bravo XR drives. Probably would get great mileage too.

100mph single stock 525:bsflag:

Id like to see this 100mph with single 525, single step awesome in the rough water boat. Where's the pics!?

Way not a performance build vs. flat water speed? OL should consider a new small boat with the best balance you can build with warranted HP. Also, is this a true 28' or you counting F/G "tricks" on the transom to get to 28'?

IMO, if the boat will out handle the competition with similar top speed, it will sell if the buyer is educated. The 28' Magnums and Cigarettes with twin SB's were generally the most competitive in APBA in the 80's-90's and generally not because of their flat water speed. They could run hard and flat.

I think the twin 550 HP Raylar SB set-up (or similar) and XR's on a dialed-in OL hull would be in a class by itself. What if it would run 110 MPH? What is the difference between $150k & $175k?...they are both in the range you would expect from OL.

If I was going to buy a OL, it wouldn't buy a single engine boat to save a few $ on initial cost and does gas cost really matter?

Remember the Edsel?...build by asking the customer :eek: Me included!

Way not a performance build vs. flat water speed? OL should consider a new small boat with the best balance you can build with warranted HP. Also, is this a true 28' or you counting F/G "tricks" on the transom to get to 28'?

IMO, if the boat will out handle the competition with similar top speed, it will sell if the buyer is educated. The 28' Magnums and Cigarettes with twin SB's were generally the most competitive in APBA in the 80's-90's and generally not because of their flat water speed. They could run hard and flat.

I think the twin 550 HP Raylar SB set-up (or similar) and XR's on a dialed-in OL hull would be in a class by itself. What if it would run 110 MPH? What is the difference between $150k & $175k?...they are both in the range you would expect from OL.

If I was going to buy a OL, it wouldn't buy a single engine boat to save a few $ on initial cost and does gas cost really matter?

Remember the Edsel?...build by asking the customer :eek: Me included!

Just ran the numbers. 1100 HP, 275 constant, 6900 lbs = 110 MPH...easy if you hit the weight.

Maybe some KE all alum SB's?

I agree! Dial the CG in with those lightweight small blocks, running hard and flat would be no problem. What a great promotional boat that would be for both OL and Raylar. Just need someone willing to take that first leap of faith $$...

My pig 292 weighs in at 7500 lbs with iron 6.2's. The OL/LSM package would have no problem hitting 6900 lbs.

I agree i have a 2008 custom built 29ft velocity lightweight boat with a 600 sci (stock right now) getting 83-84 on gps on a good day ,no way will a 28 ft boat with a stock 525 hit 100 mph low 80s thats about it .

Guess it depends on what you call 28'. 2 foot of beak, 2 foot of swim plat, low freeboard, no cabin with 4 man sit down is considered a 28'?

I looked at the 28EVO, it looks no bigger than an older Baja 226. My 280 looks huge compared to that boat. Also noticed they are running it in FLAT water.

I can see a 24' light layup boat doing 90+ with a 525 in it.

Well I will say this. My 29 which is 28' 11" with no platform ran 88 all day and cant be touched in the rough. That was with 470hp. No box and stock prop. This boat was not light by any standard. Please dont tell me it cant be done. Imagine what that boat would do with a light lay up and no cabin. Testing will be complete by the end of the summer and you will see the boat at the Miami boat show. We will be giving rides to prove the 100mph for a hundred grand.

I' guess I'm from Missouri

When is the scheduled build date for the 28'OL? What engine package will be with the first 28' OL boat? How much will the first boat (28' OL) made cost?

The baja comment is nonsense.

The 28 Evo is 28.6 long with an 8.6 beam.
This is a waterline measurement and the boat has no step.
It is tight on the inside

The 2750 is the same size - has an much more open interior and is 30 ft when you add the swimstep.



Uncle Dave

thats going to be cool but, a merc hp 500 is over 500hp just the motor at the drive its 470hp. 525s have been dynoed at 560 plus hp from factory.both are good motors and great speed for that power. OL hey keep your options open on drives and power Konrad Ace package is a hi per set up rated for 800hp and warrantied, local builders like JIM RIED makes a 598 800hp motor for 16,000.00 he has built boat motors back in the A TO D class boats way back. or use a big name guys like GELLNER//ZUL/YOUNG/JC/TC just to name a few. I hope my Gellner motor is done in the next week or I will end up missing our pokerrun that I am helping with:eek:

My 29' Kryptonite with 550hp ran in the mid 80's. That boat had a no frills cabin and was very light. Hard to believe a 28' pleasure boat could do 100.