Sail boaters vs. Power boaters...
 

Never ceases to amaze me the disdain shown by sail boaters towards power boaters. Comical at times and down right irritating at others…

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TANK......I flip you off everytime I see you! :D Nice blog entry!

You're just telling me I'm #1!!:drink:

Ha I had the same type of conversation with a sail boater, during a party, we start talking boats, there were a few tell tale comments that gave me that akward feel that I had engaged a love for boating with a sail boater,and at this point I couldnt back out, as we had drawn a crowd of like minded boaters who mostly were sailboaters as well, they all ganged up at once and said I love sailing,,, what type of boating do you enjoy?? So i just grinned and said I love sailing too,, Every once in a while I blast of a wave at 80mph,, and sail through the air for about five to ten seconds, and I love it..... I got cricketss??? and with out missing a beat they turned their backs on me aand started talking amongst themselves about sailing. :evilb:

Just read your blog about the Kilo speed record. Who else besides Cig and OL could mount a credible attempt? Laveycraft's 39 has run almost 110 with Merc 700s. With 1500s they should be able to get close if the bottom will let them.

What about Statement? All the poker run attandance, and the exposure, they get from it, think what even an attempt for a record would do for them.

Tank it is the noise. No one likes it except for us. Heck even most of our wives would rather they be quiet. The sooner WE realize it the better our chances of no new laws. They think that we are imposing ourselves in on a larger group (people that do not like power boats is much larger then those of us that do) and that is not fair.

Plus you were in Bucks, what the heck do you expect? Freeking homo. :D

Amazing the gall of some people. was with my daughter a couple years ago, going by a sailboat in the south river, she waves to everyone, she waved first and he flipped her the bird.

I remember about 10 - 15 years ago just like it was yesterday, I was on Lake St. Clair and pulling into Jefferson Beach Marina. There was a 40 ft. sailboat coming out of the Marina and a 48Ft. Ocean Marine Cat pulling into the Marina in front of me. All of a sudden the Captain of the sailboat, started yelling and scream at the Offshore like a loonie for no reason other then he didn't like the noise of the engines of the Offshore. I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing and from that point on I have little respect for sail boaters. They talk about the noise of Offshores but how about their rigging in the Marina at night when you are trying to sleep and it is windy, all you hear is the clanking of there rigging hitting the mast all night. All it shows, is what dinks they really are.

Blow boaters are typical liberals.

Blow boaters motto: The wind is free and everything else should be.

i chatted with a sail boater last season about his rigging not clanging and banging like so many others do. and he told me it only takes a little time to fix that. so they like to pizz with us to.:evilb:

I can relate to this Tank.

Here in NJ we as Powerboaters had to fight off a 35 mph speed limit for all tidal waters not once but twice...

Once I was aware of the second attempt I went on a mission to stop these people hopefully for good.

Dave P of the NJPPC produced an incredible presentation in fairness to all sides and showed how we must all share the same waters and all get along.

The sailboating community complained of the Speeding in No Wake Zones and operatoring the powerboats carelessly, etc.

The final page of the presentation displayed those three accusations with the help of my surveillence photographs.

What could be seen in the photographs was not just one sailing organization but three different sailing organizations doing what they accused the "Performance Powerboaters" of.

I heard the looks on the sailboaters faces were priceless! :eek:

Children bow riding and sitting on gunnels.

Speeding in No Wake Zones in front of their Marinas in which they previously had the No Wake Zone extended to avoid the wakes coming from boats coming off plane.

Passing Sailboats too closely and at Speed

At speed in a cove of the Wildlife Refuge.

Just in case they were to try to say they were responding to an emergency, I tracked them the entire way. All they were doing was transporting more kids to the sailboats for the regatta.


SEE ALL PHOTOS HERE -> SPEED LIMIT SLIDE SHOW

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And yes I enjoy sailing as well.
I have made a trip on a 68' Erwin from St Pete. Fl to St Thomas to deliver a new sailboat to the island. A great time!

And just last week I had my daughter out for the 1st time on a Hobie in Punta Cana, Dominion Republic.

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Wind ***s.

The real story, courtesy of Berkeley Breathed ("Bloom County" strip) and Boating magazine several years ago.

I didnt know wind faagg was on the do not say list.

Hi Tim!

The slide show is priceless, what a great job documenting it.

Ya know.....I can't recall a person on a sailboat EVER giving me the bird. There have been a few that don't wave back though for one reason or another. I sailed a Hobie Cat 16 for about 12 years. We used to even take it down to do Regatta's in Ensenada. Sailing is awesome.....powerboating is too. Just being on the water to what "floats my boat".

Like Jon says......I think it is the noise that is the main issue.

When the noise complaints started coming this was one of the 1st things I brought up. Knowing it does not take much to resolve that issue, but many of them do not bother. Being around any marina on a good windy day any time of the year the rigging is like wind chimes. And not everyone likes wind chimes, especially 24 hours a day.:eek:

It may have sounded pointless at the meeting, but I just couldn't hold it back and had to say it.:drink:

Much of the people complaining only live on the water a short time of the year. They know ahead of time buying their home there will be some seasonal annoyances.

If they don't like the sound of airplanes, would they buy a home next to an airport.

Prime example, I know Banner Planes fly all summer long at the shore. You do not see me trying to stop them because I know this is someone's seasonal business. I may not always like it when they fly over my house, but I deal with it. If it bothered me that much, I would move....:drink:

Anyone else remember the bolt incident with Anna in Newport? Guy got lucky that Stinson and I did not go over the railing.

Unfortunately you are a minority. The mentality today is "I got a great deal on this house at the end of the runway, now let's ban airplanes."

Idiots.

I spend hours at work each day dealing with noise complaints pertaining to our aircraft (I work for a very large fractional jet company) from all over the country and globe. Look at some of the issues at Santa Monica, the same idiots that complain about it use the airport every day. I even had one person explain to me that his airplane was quiet, only everyone elses was loud.

Can't fix stupid.

I think that anyone that put enough money into it and had a decent boat (Lavey's 39, Statement, Skater, maybe even Eliminators (Larry Smith designed) 43), could make a credible attempt and possibly beat the record.

Technology has changed over the past 5 years. Just take Merc's new turbo motors....

Sharkey, great story...

Like I say, I have no hatred against sail boats...I actually enjoy sailing and have many friends that have sail boats. It just seems, even with my sail boat friends, that most know of this hatred from sail boaters towards powerboaters. It's kind've an inside joke with my neighber that has a 45 Catalina. He has a Cigarette shirt and I tell him all the time, if his sailing buddies see's him wearing it, he'll be kicked out of the club!:drink:

I'm not sure it even is just the sailboaters. I've gotten attitude from guys in smaller powerboats and cruisers too. Some people just hate performance boats, probably because they are jealous?.....I have no idea.

I was coming out of Sag Harbor 2 summers ago, and passed a guy in a cruiser. He was doing about 35 and I was doing about 60, I passed him real wide and did absolutely nothing inappropriate or illegal but sure enough he flipped me off as I went by.

Same summer coming out of Port Jeff idling through the no wake zone this guy in a 28ft Sea Ray is approaching from my port side. I clearly have the right of way plus I am in the channel and he isn't but instead of backing off he gives it the gas to get right in front of me as he crosses the channel, and I have to throw it in neautral to let him go by. Then he circles around me glaring daggers through me and waving his arms in disgust!!

Some people are just a**holes, nothing you can do but shrug it off.

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liberal sailboaters....hmmm it's all old conservatives around here
 

Don't find many liberal blow boaters in central Illinois. It's all older conservatives. In fact one walked up to a buddy of mine who was using both of our docks regular gas pumps to fill his tanks. The blow boater asked how long it would be and became irrate when told it takes a while to pump a couple hundred gallons per side. After finally becoming irritated enough at the moron my buddy pulled the hose out and filled up his six gallon can and told him to beat it. Bear in mind he could have paid ten cents a gallon more for premium but he would rather just *****. Now that's as conservative as you get. True story.

I don't get why the sail boaters have a hard on for the powerboats.. Today was a beautiful day on the water, handfuls of sailboats(most under power) and powerboats, one would think that everyone is out to enjoy being on the water.. I'm idling down the Anclote river at 1,100 rpm in the idle only, no wake zone when I get passed by a 35' sailboat under power. Do I have a problem with that, not really, other than he probably has that inboard full throttle- he waves, we wave, great day on the water..
1/2 mile later when the no wake zone ends and I carefully pass with as much room as possible- we wave and get dirty looks and hand gestures back. If you carefully pass doing everything possible not to disrupt them and they still don't like it??? Whatever I'm still going to enjoy my day on the water in my noisy little piece of crap. :drink:

Sailing vs. Powerboating:

This has become a feud when powerboats first gained popularity and interest back in the 50's.

If one goes back it is the sailing vessel and the operator who truly epitomizes what boating is all about hence the term sailor.

A sailor is a true boater in the purest sense of the word and with it comes centuries of aristocracy and a sense of entitlement. I can remember a high school buddy of mine named Nyle asked me to go on a trip during the summer to Hawaii--yeah sure when does the plane leave. The answer was no were leaving in a 52 foot sloop it had an engine but the idea was to take a month and sail to Hawaii. I passed due to not having enough intestinal fortitude to join them both on their epic adventure. A decision I regret to this day and wish I could have an opportunity like that one again.

Nyle knew how to use a sexton to navigate, back when he was a junior in high school. No GPS stuff using charts and graphs, protractor and slide rule to navigate with precision. An amazing individual and one helluva sailor and boater whom I respect a great deal today.

So why am I telling you this story. It relates to the attitude of the sailor when viewing the powerboater who must remain near shore to partake of their diet rich in petroleum. I understand the arrogance and it is derived from centuries of exploration, adventure and courage.

Is it right?

I do not think so at least not from my perspective.

However, really great sailors do not have a chip on their shoulder as they do not see performance boating as a rival. They rather view us as novices who cannot travel far from the nearest gas pump with limited skills as sailors.

Once you understand the perspective you will not fight it rather if a sailing vessel waves at me I will reciprocate but usually I am hauling azz so I rarely ever take my hand off the throttle for such subtleties.

I love performance boating and only wish the performance boating community was as solid as the sailing community. If that were the case their would be a lot less no wake zones or regulatory markers.

KAP

P.S. "I love the smell of VP 110 it smells like victory":boat:

The bad feelings are there. It will never change ............. who cares.

Nice post!

I had a 14 & 18 for many years, it's still one of the most fun boats I've ever owned...with a good stiff breeze of course.

One of the best clips on the radio on the same topic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KkXOz3nmHU

GREAT POST!:drink:

I think the 14 didn't have a jib right? The 18 always looked awesome to me....! It had a different hull design (not a bananna). Here's a few pics I just dug up from the early 80's......good times!


We were doing a a road trip to San Felipe Mexico for a Hobie regatta. I rented a U-Haul motor home to go down there. I remember taking that U-Haul to Mexico was NO from them.....LOL.....young and dumb, we went anyway! Sail 72589 was mine.

I normally pulled it with a red/white 1968 VW semi-camper van I had. I had the motor built to an 1835cc with dual 44 Weber carbs, all chrome metal, dual exhausts, and dual oil coolers. It rocked! Good times! Nice mullet.....LOL! :D

My 1st boat was the Hobie 10 mono hull.

Back then while just a kid, I ran that out to the Mile Bouy off Manasquan Inlet with a strong SE wind I was hauling back in with the wind at my back and riding the rollers. It was awesome.
Not knowing enough at that age I always watched the Hobie Cats come in and beach with ease. So I tried it with the Hobie 10. Not a good idea. The cats glide through the water as the mono hull did not. I came in riding a wave, lost the wind in the sail and it stopped dead while the next wave caem in and flipped me stern over bow. I went right for the bottom so I would not get hit with anything. When I surfaced i saw my boat upside down. I knew this couldt't be good as I was in 6 feet of water with a 17 ft mast. :eek: I totaled the boat by breaking the mast, centerboard and rudder all in one wave .

It was fun while it lasted.

My next boat I upgraded to the Bullet 130 and began surfing with that.... :drink:

Phantom Chaos and Knot Right:

Thank you for the kind words!

I hope it sheds some light on the subject for all boaters.

KAP

We call sailboats "WAFI's". Wind assisted *ucken idiots

I'm still searching everywhere for that essay Berkeley Breathed wrote years ago that absolutely harpooned blowboaters, talking about their wives underarm hair, their distinctive smells, and waving goodbye for two days as they sail out of sight! Funniest thing I've ever read, saved it for years on my desk, and it was mistakenly thrown away. I've searched the internet. Can ANYONE find me a copy or direct me to a published version? Apparently it appeared in BOATING magazine back in the eighties. I would love to find it again?

My first encounter with windeys was 4 or five guys on there sailboat tied up at the dock shouting something at me as i went past , i could not here what they were saying ,but my freind on my boat could ,he said thay were shouting out 1 gallon 2gallons 3 gallons , .then the same guys back at the boat club come over to me as i was washing my boat down and said they couldnt see the point crashing about over the waves at speed . i said to them i couldnt see the point of spending the day on the same wave ,i allso said if you needed to be rescued from your sinking yacht should i send a sailboat or something powerd and fast ,they kinder just mooched off .

If you're letting a perceived feud with sail boaters bother you on your day off on the water I fell sorry for you.

if you refering to me , no need to feel sorry for me , it was 20 years ago and it didnt bother me i thought it was funny at the time .

Paul,
No I wasn't referring to you. I just think the whole power boater vs. sail boater issue isn't something to get upset about. Now bring up any boater having no clue regarding passing, overtaking, crossing etc. and I'll get hot.
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