Need motor advice please
 

Well first off im not here to bash my engine builder (yet) .I would just like to know what you would do if this happened to you.It all started mid season last year when i pickup my new 540 from my builder.With a some help of a few friend we had the motor in and on the water in no time.Being that this motor was dyno tuned i figured it was drop it in and go(no bugs to work out)First time out we had problems didnt want to idle,had to feather the throttle to get it on plan etc and the motor would just not rev regardless of witch prop we tested.While on the water we found the fuel line was 3/8 but we had some 1/2 so we swap it out real quick.Still not much of a difference.I decided to read the plugs to find the plugs looked like it was running lean.Back on the trailer and a call to the builder to find he mistakely put the wrong plugs in the motor.After a plug change a little better but now it keeps popping the main fuse back to the trailer again.This time we find the builder hooked up a key hot wire that was for a electric fuel pump that was no longer being used to the hot side of my alternator.So now i need a new merc hardness and alternator.(thank god it didnt go on fire)At this point the few friends and myself decide its time to pull the motor and bring it back to the builder.Its now late aug early sept i drop the motor off to the builder and tell him to find the problem and while you have it i want you to install a F.A.S.T. injection system on it and to tune it.I told him to overnight everything and anything he need as i want to use the boat at least a little bit before the season was over.He told me no problem it will take two to three weeks till i have it back.So i get the call that i can pick up my motor its now april.(what the f*$k happened to 3 weeks)To make it more fun the injection system was giving to me in boxs even tho its was ran and tuned on the dyno.$6300 and i have to put it together.Again with alot of help from a few friend the motors in and ready to fun.I put the garden hose on in and (drum roll)i turn the key and NOTHING.Time to start looking for problems and the only thing we can find is that the builder left his oil pressure gauge fitting in the motor (unpluged ) so now i have a $100 in oil in my beilge that i might add my friend just power washed for me.After several calls to the build the only thing i get from him is WELL IT RAN WHEN IT WAS ON THE DYNO.Keep in mind i dropped about $25.000 with him for this motor and that what im told.After talking to FAST they say the dis is bad and to send it back for them to repair.I should have my distributer back in the next day or two so hopfully it will run and maybe i can enjoy my boat.After a very long read(sorry)i would just like to know what you would do. Thanx pete

Wow......what would I do????? RUN!!!

Why in God's name would he dyno the engine and then take everything back off of it. I can tell you why....because it was never put on in the first place. No one in their right mind would disassemble an engine after dyno-ing it. I just can not be made to believe that.
I really feel for you since you have spent a ton of money and I know that you would love to make him fix it, but you need to cut your loses and find another builder to fix it. Unfortunately you picked a turd for an engine builder. I would not waste anymore time and money on this guy. Take your stuff to a reputable builder. There are still a few of us that do what we say. Good luck with it.
Eddie

I would post the name of the engine builder so that everyone knows not to ever go there!!!!!

Like Eddie said, your engine builder is full of chit and lying. Where are the dyno sheets??????

wow thats sucks !! do tell all who is this guy who claims he no how to rip people off!!! thats a lot of$$$$$ for what you got. i paid $700 to have my motor dyno and he did some mods to it to make it run better. it is sad that there are guys out there that ripp you off and dont no what they are doing . i got lucky i find a guy 40 min from my house built my motor in 3 weeks and i went to the shop and watch him dyno my motor . like eddie said my motor had all the parts on it why wuold you take it off????next time you go to the shop talk to other guys that they did work for. they is storys just like your posted here ,after reading them i will not go there !!! good luck on fixing your motor

post the name of that engine builder so that everyone on OSO knows not to ever go there !!!!! Sounds like 1 we got f cked by in Zona .good luck on getting back 2gether

Eddie
Agree 100%
WOW
Jim
www.ozarkspeedandmarine.com

WOW I'm sorry to hear another story like this. If what you have told us is 100% true then I wouldn't hesitate to name this jerk. I sure wouldn't worry about him fixing it as I wouldn't want him near it. Like Eddie said cut your loses and find someone who can get things lined out for you. I had Eddie build two 720's for me last year and when I left his shop I was completely comfortable with my set up. He not only runs them on the dyno but installs everything so if there is a problem it is taken care of before you leave.

thats suxs,maybe someone here can recommend ya someone close to ya that will get ya going.Goodluck\

Rob:drink:

Thanx for all the replys.I will let everyone know how the builder is as soon as i can fix this mess.Eddie do you know anything about the fast system or know of someone that does.My builder is a jacka$$ and the guys at fast dont seem to care about helping you.Thanx pete

No It starts with a J

I have played with the FAST a few times. I am by no stretch of the imagination an expert with them. I generally use the Mefi ecms, so I know those much better. If I can help I would be glad to. Just give me a call anytime.
Eddie

Thank you .I just waiting on fast to send me back my dis and then we will see if it runs.If i have no luck i will take you up on the offer.Thanx pete

Good luck with everything!

Thanx bro.Its the builder at this point that needs the luck.

Boyd's Motorworks
224 Elmwood Ave. Ext.
Gloversville, NY 12078


Thanx to him i missed last season and my boat is still taking up space in someone elses shop while we are trying to fix it.So i spent $25.000 give or take so i can waste all of my friends spare time helping me with this POS and then i get to come home to hear my wife ***** about it.So when its all said and done i will have a non running boat,no money ,no friends and no wife.All because i wanted to go faster. :eek: Thanx boyd

Oh and im not the only one that is having problems right know with one of his motors..

:lolhit::lolhit:

We might have her running soon.

UP DATE Looks as if the motor was delivered to me with a bad ecu also . Should know in a few days. I have got a bunch of pms with suggestions thanxs

Good luck. Keep us posted.
Eddie

You should have gone to Performance Marine in Bolton Landing. Jason has built a couple of engines for me. One Whippled and one 500 EFI bumped HP. Put them in the boat off the dyno and they ran perfect.
Good luck in the future.

BTW. Jason is the best around when it comes to EFI programing IMHO

Check the way he has your oil lines run. I have seen where he doesn't think it makes a difference...

He said he builds "powerboat" motors yet there isn't a picture of a single boat on his site, it is all old cars. :eek:

Thanx for the support guys i will keep you posted.

Yo Fast Fun 2.Do you think you can fix the mess jack made out of my motor.

Great thanx for the heads up

I wish i knew about him before i wasted $25.000 + or - for my non running motor.

There more than one of his 20,000 + motors that don't run for schitt, even carburated ones. I don't think he understands marine and using the proper cam profile.
MY 2¢

Here's Performance Marine URL.

www.perfmar.com

Good Luck

Great looks like im finding out the hard way.I do know of one motor the jack built that was a really good runner.Makes me think he might have subbed out that motor to someone else thats why its a good runner.It sucks but im not even close to finished with him.He will make this right either on his own or in court.If he was smart he would at least send me the $400 cam credit he owes me and $121 for the oil i had to buy because he left his oil sender from his dyno in the motor and the $80 for the fire cord i had to buy because he forgot to give me the one i had already bought.

Oh and jack as you read this i dont want you to think its about the money because its not its because your a d1ck bag. imo :angry-smiley-038:

Still waiting for fast to send back my ecu.So with no boat this weekend it gave me some time to clean up more of the mess that jack sent me and it gave me some time to think how jack must feel knowing that he $ucks at what he does for a living.But worst yet this thread has 1500 views so jack that means 1500 other people know how much you $uck at your job.Oh and jack im not going away til you make this right

Interesting....Not picking sides in the matter but I had a motor of his in my old boat and ran awesome every time out and was a real screamer of a motor but also super reliable. Was a carb motor though and from what I can tell if I was looking for an efi motor I would head up to Performance Marine. Have heard of some of Boyd's motors that are really good performers. Keep us posted.