look at this monster
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I would sell it too with those "mustard and tangerine" seats!!! Good grief! :D :D
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"Performance cruiser" LOL that pig won't even get on plane. :rolleyes:
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the boat ran 71mph when it had 525's. Its around 60 now with 496's. It took along time, but it handles decent as well with minimal roll. The inside of it is nice, but I do agree that the outside does look pretty ugly tho.......
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"This boat is New and will turn heads wherever she goes"
I BET IT DOES...:lolhit: |
Wow, that thing is a beast! I like it other than the colors and 496's.
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Oh, I'll bet it turns heads! LMAO. 400K??? hahaha. maybe 50,000
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That sure does seem like a small engine package for such a big boat.
Does anyone know what the biggest engine package Black Thunder has ever put in one of their 46's is? Have they done any with 1075's & 6's, or bigger? Whatever the biggest is that someone posts, how did it run? |
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Originally Posted by saxman
(Post 3113129)
the boat ran 71mph when it had 525's. Its around 60 now with 496's. It took along time, but it handles decent as well with minimal roll. The inside of it is nice, but I do agree that the outside does look pretty ugly tho.......
Interesting......how much does it weigh? My 45 Apache (LOA 48 feet) has triple 502MAG and can manage 60MPH with the right water. I can get it to plane with two though (had to do this more than once..........urgh!). |
Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3113163)
Interesting......how much does it weigh? My 45 Apache (LOA 48 feet) has triple 502MAG and can manage 60MPH with the right water. I can get it to plane with two though (had to do this more than once..........urgh!).
What are those motors, 415hp if I remember correctly? Surely you can bump that up w/o using blowers? It's nice to have trips in a boat that big when one goes down. I have personal experience... |
Originally Posted by BLee
(Post 3113151)
That sure does seem like a small engine package for such a big boat.
Does anyone know what the biggest engine package Black Thunder has ever put in one of their 46's is? Have they done any with 1075's & 6's, or bigger? Whatever the biggest is that someone posts, how did it run? |
Originally Posted by DollaBill
(Post 3113149)
Oh, I'll bet it turns heads! LMAO. 400K??? hahaha. maybe 50,000
Boat is easily the ugliest BT ever built. The boat is a turd and IF National can find a buyer who likes it, then he won't be able to find another buyer to sell it to years later....... The bow rail, the swept back windshield......it is all bad then the 496's are the final blow into letting you know this isn't the boat to own! |
Twin or trip Yanmar 480s and Arneson #8s would have been the best powertrain imo.
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Originally Posted by BLee
(Post 3113151)
That sure does seem like a small engine package for such a big boat.
Does anyone know what the biggest engine package Black Thunder has ever put in one of their 46's is? Have they done any with 1075's & 6's, or bigger? Whatever the biggest is that someone posts, how did it run? The fastest would have to be SAXMAN and his Dad's 43 Flat deck. There was a turbine 43 Sport cruiser back in the mid 90's that I sold. That had to be the most power ever. I think somebody is building one now with some big power. And Jason, that 71 had be down stream on the Mississippi right? |
Originally Posted by saxman
(Post 3113129)
the boat ran 71mph when it had 525's. Its around 60 now with 496's. It took along time, but it handles decent as well with minimal roll. The inside of it is nice, but I do agree that the outside does look pretty ugly tho.......
Why the engine swap? |
The interior do stand out,if it had a paint job the same color:drink:
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I mean that boat is......... actually. offensive
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I am doing 1200's with #6's boat goes to paint in a few weeks
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Looks top heavy in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Spiker
(Post 3113267)
I am doing 1200's with #6's boat goes to paint in a few weeks
this particular BT...um...not to fond of. |
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Originally Posted by Catmando
(Post 3113176)
About dam TIME you posted a pic of that boat, hell I thought it was a joke I'd never heard of a Sunseeker Apache.
What are those motors, 415hp if I remember correctly? Surely you can bump that up w/o using blowers? It's nice to have trips in a boat that big when one goes down. I have personal experience... LOL......are you talking about a phantom boater? One that talks about boats they had but never really had one? :D :drink: From what I recall.....yes, the 502MAG is rated at 415HP.....but not sure. Blowers? LOL It's not made for a speed contest! It already uses enough gas! It has a single 390 gallon gas tank. :D In these pictures......I was actualy trying to get up on plane with the center motor and the starboard one. The port motor was locked up for some reason. Doesn't matter now.....all three motors are coming out this week (again!!!!!). :eek: |
Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3113163)
Interesting......how much does it weigh? My 45 Apache (LOA 48 feet) has triple 502MAG and can manage 60MPH with the right water. I can get it to plane with two though (had to do this more than once..........urgh!).
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Originally Posted by BLee
(Post 3113151)
That sure does seem like a small engine package for such a big boat.
Does anyone know what the biggest engine package Black Thunder has ever put in one of their 46's is? Have they done any with 1075's & 6's, or bigger? Whatever the biggest is that someone posts, how did it run? There is currently a 460 SC with staggered 1200's being finished up right now. |
Originally Posted by salesmanship
(Post 3113215)
Why the engine swap?
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LOL......are you talking about a phantom boater? One that talks about boats they had but never really had one?
Scroll down to posts 56-57 you'll see my boat; http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/te...erunner-4.html |
Originally Posted by Catmando
(Post 3113421)
LOL......are you talking about a phantom boater? One that talks about boats they had but never really had one?
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3113320)
LOL......are you talking about a phantom boater? One that talks about boats they had but never really had one? :D :drink:
From what I recall.....yes, the 502MAG is rated at 415HP.....but not sure. Blowers? LOL It's not made for a speed contest! It already uses enough gas! It has a single 390 gallon gas tank. :D In these pictures......I was actualy trying to get up on plane with the center motor and the starboard one. The port motor was locked up for some reason. Doesn't matter now.....all three motors are coming out this week (again!!!!!). :eek: |
Have a 48 ft. Excalibur in my barn up north w/ 496's & bravo 3's!! 12 ft. beam I believe, not sure how well it runs but a big azz boat 4 that engine/drive combo!!:party-smiley-004:
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Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3113441)
I'm not talking about you! I'm talking about Chris Sunkin. :D
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That thing looks like a bayliner and a black thunder got together and thats the result
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Originally Posted by ThoroughHustler
(Post 3113602)
That thing looks like a bayliner and a black thunder got together and thats the result
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They started building this boat in 2001 or 2002 i think
It was Don Jenkins project for many years till they finaly finished it As Terry said the biggest power for a BTwas a twin turbine called "The Turbinator" Terry can tell you how fast that boat was he certianly knows the most about those boats from back then |
Originally Posted by ThoroughHustler
(Post 3113602)
That thing looks like a bayliner and a black thunder got together and thats the result
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That freaking boat is in comparison to a Bayleaner, I mean liner.. Wow.. Hideous
John jr |
Originally Posted by Catmando
(Post 3113421)
LOL......are you talking about a phantom boater? One that talks about boats they had but never really had one?
Scroll down to posts 56-57 you'll see my boat; http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/te...erunner-4.html |
Originally Posted by omerta one
(Post 3113714)
Cool boat :eek: ; did you ever put it in the water?
I enjoyed the stares and crowds the most. No one on my lake had ever seen a boat like that and they wanted to know who built it(Art Carlson) and what motor(540ci/600hp Ford). Bravo1 drive Latham full hydraulic twin ram steering. The engine hatch was an incredible feat of craftsmanship. I had 10 pages of drawings and mathematics on the hatch alone. |
Deja vu?
Is it me or does the helm seating look like a throwback to an 80s Donzi?:eek:
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Originally Posted by boatme
(Post 3113621)
They started building this boat in 2001 or 2002 i think
It was Don Jenkins project for many years till they finaly finished it As Terry said the biggest power for a BTwas a twin turbine called "The Turbinator" Terry can tell you how fast that boat was he certianly knows the most about those boats from back then As for the cruiser, Don always had a sketch of it on his desk. It was a boat he wanted. I ususally just nodded when he would show it to me and then I would change the subject. |
Originally Posted by ThoroughHustler
(Post 3113602)
That thing looks like a bayliner and a black thunder got together and thats the result
Hard to find much to like about that thing. |
Originally Posted by Spiker
(Post 3113267)
I am doing 1200's with #6's boat goes to paint in a few weeks
Originally Posted by saxman
(Post 3113366)
There is currently a 460 SC with staggered 1200's being finished up right now.
Assuming the speeds quoted from the 700 & 850 boats, this one should run comfortably over 100 it sounds like. The comment Terry posted about "The Turbinator" being a handful at 105, makes me wonder if this 1200 boat will have the same ride? Have they made any bottom changes since the Turbinator was built, that could have cured any potential handling issues for the 1200 boat? btw: I think "The Turbinator" is probably the best name I've ever heard for a powerboat with turbines. THAT, is a classic http://smiliesftw.com/x/bowrofl.gif |
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