Scarab sinks at Havasu video...
 

Last weekend at Havasu. Don't know why it went down. Looks like it's a 29 (?)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OQGDsYtfSg[/YOUTUBE]:eek:

Man that went down quick.That's a shame.

any new info ??

I like the narrators comment, man of few words but he summed things up pretty well.

I Was In The Channel Sunday Afternoon At The Time This Boat Sank. I Don't Understand Why It Looks Like Nobody Stopped To Help Them. It Is Really Sad To See Someones Weekend Go So Wrong. I Just Hope Everyone Is Ok. I Heard The Boat Was Over Loaded, But Don't Know How True That Is. How Many People Do You Need On A Boat That Big To Sink It??

From the video it didn't look like that many were on it, my guess is they left the plug out or bellows boot tore. I am guessing it was full of water and by the time they realized it was too late, started up threw it in gear all the water went to the back and that is all she wrote.:eek:

I would think to sink it with just people you would need 10+ all standing on the back at the same time.

Learned from the GLH/Drambuie thread that if you have and leak and your I/O is running, detach the cooling pipe from the motor and let the engine run as a secondary bilge pump. Since I am not mechanically inclined, I'm not sure exactly where to detach the pipe and how to stop the engine water intake from filling the boat up. Can anyone describe?

I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, SOUNDS MORE REASONABLE, EITHER WAY IT REALLY SUCKS FOR THE FAMILY INVOLED. I HEARD ANOTHER BOAT SANK SOMEWHERE OUT THAT WEEKEND TOO, BUT NOT FORSURE.

JUST FOUND THIS ON ANOTHER SITE, IT IS FROM THE PERSON WHO SHOT THE VIDIO.

I will call it out and take responsibility for the video. I took it. Since several people seem to passing judgement I will explain my action(or lack of as some have pointed out).

1. I was alone with no one help me spot people in water. I wasn't going to drive over anyone trying to get into the mix. Another boat wasn't going to help anyone.
2. Did you see the dozen boats already withing 30 feet? I was a few hundered feet away.
3. The people in the water, were there because someone on the boat pushed them in hoping to lighten the load. When they went passed me a few minutes before, way overloaded and everyone on the rear deck partying.
4. I am all for helping people from getting hurt or pulling them out of the water but I for one don't know jack **** about saving a boat. I am happy to give a tow or a jump, again.
Feel free to tar and feather.......

I agree that the boat wasn't really even close to being overloaded. It damn sure went tits up in a hurry whatever it was that caused it! http://smiliesftw.com/x/ughdunno.gif

Here is a video from the "owner" I'm guessing from what is written at the bottom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EshvkoVx6Qs

There was enough time to attach a rope to to the front and pull.That would have at least allowed some time for the bilge to catch-up or find shallow water.....if that didn't work they could cut the rope at any point.At least try....then again, no good deed goes unpunished.

Nobody stepped up quick enough.

I've heard that some Fountain's have bilge vents really close to the waterline and will take-on water if overloading the stern. But I can't tell if thats a beaker or not.

Sure went down fast though.

happens so quick....

It was a scarab, as for the Fountain yea a 29 w/ twin big blocks sits LOW. However the vents (circular on rear) you are refering to have tubes that run farther up into the boat so the back end has to be really down for water to actually make it into the engine compartment, probably low enough to realize you would be in trouble, like the swim platform would be under water. But it is more than possible, I think the ones that sunk were anchored from rear and surging waves did them in. NEVER anchor from stern.

I still think they left a plug out or bellows tore, and was taking on water for awhile, as for another boat pulling?? I have seen this done but damn it would take balls to go for it.:evilb: I would do it for a friend but a total stranger, probably not, just too much risk, and sue happy lawyers out there.

It probably was a boot issue. But then again I just read the bottom of the next utube vid so maybe not. But..that is also how I got my Scarab a few years ago. The last owner and his buddy's helped him put new ones on it. I got the salvage, nice boat too

At least it was fresh water the boat should be salvagable!

If you have cooling water coming in from your drive(or thru hull fitting for transom pickups) usually a 1 1/4" or 1" hose, slam the valve closed(you should have 1/4 turn ball valves, or install them, i did for this reason) , knife your hose, usually have a steel band in it so its a pain, and just keep the engine running, it is the hose going to IN side of your raw water pump or in between your strainer and pump. Hope that helps explain it better.

That's a good idea....it'll be the only 1 1/4" running to the transom or bottom of the hull.If its enough water it's gonna suck that right out as long as the engine runs.

The intake hose is usually the outer hose on bravo's...kinda outside and up.

Thats a great idea. I don't have a ball valve on my sea water intake, I think I'll install one.

This deserves some more emphasis:

""devondebany — June 01, 2010 — Long story short, our boat sank. One of the girls puked and as they were cleaning up too many people shifted weight to the back and down she went. None of us got hurt, thank God. Never gonna forget it that's for sure.""

So, the situation would certainly lend itself to reason that they may have been a bit overloaded.

Nevertheless, I feel terrible for the guy. It's got to suck losing your boat like that. And of course, I'm glad no one's hurt and I'm sure pukey's feeling better by now.

And, am I the only one that noticed this user's other youtube videos :eek: :D :eek: :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6WvTJxeORs

My strainer sits pretty low in the bilge...you can unscrew the top and use that if you ever get in a real bad jam.

Only if you have the shut-off valve for the water intake. Otherwise you create another hole for water to rush in.

I wonder if there's a three way valve on the market that would draw from the sea water during normal conditions, but could draw from a hose leading to the bottom of the bilge during an emergency, while blocking off the sea water side.

I would have to disagree, I run twin big blocks and even with 6 people on the back it doesn't sit that low. Plus the vents, three per side (6-3" holes) only has one hose that goes directly into the blower then into the bottom of the bilge. It's possibly been modified but there are no signs of it. Mine is actually called a 27' Sport even though its 29 loa.

Either way it sucks to see anything go down as I hope never to encounter such a thing.

This is a great idea........you are a MacGyver haha.:grinser010:

I'm sure you could find something out there to fashion this.

In my case my sea strainer sits on the bottom of the bilge, so all I need is a valve on the other side of it and I can just pull the lid to have it pump. Sucks though because that lid doesn't go on easy at all, and when they winterized it they didn't seal it good so I have a small leak from it.

If your has a large rubber o-ring then you can use some di-electric grease on it, works great on pool filters.

There are 3 way ball valves out there. I just seen some on ebay yesterday, 1 1/2" for about $200. each Stainless Steel I might go looking for them again. Cheap investment to run a rigid hose th the bottom of the bilge then all that's needed it flip the valve handle, no cutting involved.

thats a pretty good idea. i have dedicated valves at the transom to shut off the water pickup source. but you have to hang over the Gils to pull up on the levers. Be much easier to do it all at strainer.

I'll try that. The sea strainer is a wide short one with a glass top and o-ring, it's real tough to get to seal.

Adding a three way valve will work but what will also work is adding a T fitting somewhere in the suction line after the isolation valve with its own valve on bottom side, piece of hose to that and a foot strainer at the end of hose. Thats the set up we use on small military boats for just that purpose (Emergancy Dewatering).

$200 valves, three-ways....how about just carry/install an extra bilge pump? And maintain your equipment. And don't do stupid chit...like letting some chick hurl on your boat. :) She'd be the first one walking the plank.

Uggh what part do you disagree with ?? a 27/29 Fountain w/ twin big blocks sits lower than pretty much any other boat out there same size?? That a few sunk from being anchored at the stern, it happen in MI (members on here know the boats), I said the vents do not go directly into the engine compartment? but up into the boat (however I am only familier with 1997 or newer models). I am willing to bet when loaded your rub rail is only 1-3 inches from the water line, and when taking waves from the stern they wash up onto the swim platform. I am not being a smart ass but I did work for a Fountain dealer.

I 100% understand what you mean. I wasn't disagreeing as to them sitting low, hell, I got told nearly every day "I think your boat's taking on water". I was disagreeing on the holes situation. This is the only 27/29 I've been in so I don't have anything to compare to. All I know is all the holes go directly into the engine compartment which I'm sure they have changed in the forthcoming years. I do anchor from the stern ONLY in the dead calm no wake zones. Once again, never meant it as a challenge.

Only because your engine will pump tons more water then a second bilge pump.

COOL, :drink: BTW I still love the older 27/29 with twins, those boats ROCKET out of the hole.:evilb: And yes on your boat I could be completely wrong, again I am only familiar with 1997 or newer models.

After seeing the other video , looks like going down isn't such a big deal.

Second video made me a lot more queezzzzzzyyyyy than the first, that for sure!!!!!!!!!:eek:

I watched that guys other videos....it all makes sense now.

10 mexicans partying in a single garage for new years eve...and giving each other simulated blow jobs.In front their girls no less.

here is a pic of my 84 30' scarab with twin Big Blocks, yes it sits low but not sure it sits low enough to take water over the transom. The guy said the weight shifted in the boat, I don't buy it!