Originally Posted by mccaffertee (Post 3129901)

THIS IS NOT AN OLDER MOLD. This is a newly tooled and impproved version of the original 41. The original lines and measurements came directly from the Warpath race boat, but was done the old fashioned way. Then the tooling was built from foam based on those measurements. There were some major flaws in the way the company did the tooling and Steve 1 and his brothers did some serious re-work to get the tooling straight as the so-called tooling work was poorly done. The tooling was a major job since we straightened the bottom and sharpened the edges - the way it was originally done it incorporated ALL the flaws of the original 41...so we fixed, straightened and sharpened EVERYTHING.

This included "inches" of additional height to make the bottom straight and level as the original tooling had a bad rocker in it.
It was all done as a non-stepped hull with a new and improved straight bottom, NO ROCKER!!!

Then Pantera bought the tooling and made it their own by adding a stepped insert to modify and improve the running surface - this IS NOT the T4 that Steve 1 was tooling up, it is the original straight bottom molded 41 that was to be a retro version of the original for the new Thad Allen Apache.

hope this helps!:drink:

Originally Posted by ThreeBears (Post 3130290)

With 1050hp and 10500#, 83mph gives a hull factor of 265 and 95 gives a hull factor of 300. 265 is pretty good for a deep vee ... 300 is off the charts ... more like a world class cat number. At 275, you get 87mph so I'm going with 87+/-1mph for this setup.

Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3130368)

who's the guy in the hat:party-smiley-004:

Originally Posted by mccaffertee (Post 3129901)

THIS IS NOT AN OLDER MOLD. This is a newly tooled and impproved version of the original 41. The original lines and measurements came directly from the Warpath race boat, but was done the old fashioned way. Then the tooling was built from foam based on those measurements. There were some major flaws in the way the company did the tooling and Steve 1 and his brothers did some serious re-work to get the tooling straight as the so-called tooling work was poorly done. The tooling was a major job since we straightened the bottom and sharpened the edges - the way it was originally done it incorporated ALL the flaws of the original 41...so we fixed, straightened and sharpened EVERYTHING.

This included "inches" of additional height to make the bottom straight and level as the original tooling had a bad rocker in it.
It was all done as a non-stepped hull with a new and improved straight bottom, NO ROCKER!!!

Then Pantera bought the tooling and made it their own by adding a stepped insert to modify and improve the running surface - this IS NOT the T4 that Steve 1 was tooling up, it is the original straight bottom molded 41 that was to be a retro version of the original for the new Thad Allen Apache.

hope this helps!:drink:

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3130730)

Thanks guys on all the compliments. Alot of hard work and late hours have been put into this new Pantera 41'. Ran the boat this afternoon with Brad from Mercury Racing on the wheel and tested a set of 5 blade Merc. Racing props.
It was very hot and humid here in Miami with not even a 2" chop after a brief rain storm and the boat was much faster than what we were expecting out of it. The 90 MPH class limit in Supersport class is no problem for the boat. Very good slip #s. There is still 3-4 more MPH left in it.Take your hands off the wheel at WOT. This is a BIG 41'.

We built this new Pantera 41' for the Ocean Dragon race team out of England.It will be raced in the Supersport class that has a set rule of 4.5 Kilogram per HP so we did not want to build the boat very light from the get go due to the amount of weight we have to carry ( approximately 10,500 ). HP is read from a Torque Sensor we installed.

I also gave a test run to my good friend JC that owns both Apache Warpath. He was very impressed !

I will try and post a few more pics. soon that I took this afternoon. Boat is headed to England tomorrow.

1st race will be Italy in July.

JO

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3130730)

Thanks guys on all the compliments. Alot of hard work and late hours have been put into this new Pantera 41'. Ran the boat this afternoon with Brad from Mercury Racing on the wheel and tested a set of 5 blade Merc. Racing props.
It was very hot and humid here in Miami with not even a 2" chop after a brief rain storm and the boat was much faster than what we were expecting out of it. The 90 MPH class limit in Supersport class is no problem for the boat. Very good slip #s. There is still 3-4 more MPH left in it.Take your hands off the wheel at WOT. This is a BIG 41'.

We built this new Pantera 41' for the Ocean Dragon race team out of England.It will be raced in the Supersport class that has a set rule of 4.5 Kilogram per HP so we did not want to build the boat very light from the get go due to the amount of weight we have to carry ( approximately 10,500 ). HP is read from a Torque Sensor we installed.

I also gave a test run to my good friend JC that owns both Apache Warpath. He was very impressed !

I will try and post a few more pics. soon that I took this afternoon. Boat is headed to England tomorrow.

1st race will be Italy in July.

JO

Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3130129)

This does help...thank you... now what engineer deisigned the step location..thanks again .. Jeff

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3130972)

Engineer?
what about me!
pepe.

Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 3131374)

Engineer, builder, designer, and racer Pepe...:boat::grinser010:

I know I missed a few.

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3131381)

and salesperson if need be, also in charge of sweeping floors etc etc.
later,
pp.

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3131899)

New Pantera 41' Race boat left for England this afternoon. Should be there in 3 weeks. 1st race is in Italy next month. I will post a few more oics. and video soon.

JO

Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3132147)

Anyone else see the missed opportunity to really introduce this boat at the Bimini Race this weekend?

A. Lots of free press
B. Event in your backyard
C. Great 100 mile shakedown run before European racing begins
D. 4 days after you shipped the boat anyway
E. Cheap event, not like you need a whole pit crew/lodging etc.

Pantera would have been the talk of the event!

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3132155)

YES, we tried,
but.......
pp.

Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3132192)

Then there is the OWNER of the boat. :D

Originally Posted by SVL-WARLOCK (Post 3132412)

Is this the same boat that was out at Checkmate getting finished?

Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 3132196)

Being that the boat is going overseas, probably never to be back in Miami I would see no issue in having the factory put a couple hours on it (and then fixing anything that comes loose/breaks) before shipping it across the Atlantic!

Better yet for the owner, fly here and run the boat with the Pantera boys, now that is a boat launching done right!

Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 3142493)

Here is a link to the Panteraboats.com website showing pictures that can be enlarged of the new Pantera 41' "P1 Race Edition". More info. and pics. will be posted on the site in the next couple of days.

http://www.panteraboats.com/newboat_...1-edition.html

Jo - Pantera Boats

Originally Posted by Catmando (Post 3142614)

Boat looks stunning Jo! How fast did you take that turn in the bottom pic? Any plans to build a 47 like Apache did?

Just went on your site and I get the error page for everything I try to look at. Does your site not accept Firefox server?