Driver 46..why Did You Delete Your Thread
06-12-2010 | 07:30 AM
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Actually the lag starts the panic because when the boost kicks in it is too much and the driver lifts off to slow down and then the dance begins! The non-turbos will do it just as quickly too!
Here it is at the 2:50 mark, notice the brake lights are on as the spin begins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mKqWG77RU
Here it is at the 2:50 mark, notice the brake lights are on as the spin begins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_mKqWG77RU
besides it's my thread...
06-13-2010 | 07:44 AM
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Wait a minute... So now you're saying that OL doesn't market their boats to amateur boat drivers?
They market their boats to anyone that can afford them, and I would contend that MOST of their customers are amateur boat drivers.
I believe that they offered the course more on the advice from their legal department more so than they thought it would be a "good idea."
Under the implied warranty of merchantability that exists on EVERYTHING purchased new from a dealer that sells goods of the kind an item HAS to be fit for its particular use. A 42' OL, with a full dressed cabin, enclosed head, a/c, frige, shorepower, etc. at least pretends to be a pleasure boat and needs to fit that purpose.
This isn't some silly conspiracy theory that I drummed up because I was bored... It's law...
They market their boats to anyone that can afford them, and I would contend that MOST of their customers are amateur boat drivers.
I believe that they offered the course more on the advice from their legal department more so than they thought it would be a "good idea."
Under the implied warranty of merchantability that exists on EVERYTHING purchased new from a dealer that sells goods of the kind an item HAS to be fit for its particular use. A 42' OL, with a full dressed cabin, enclosed head, a/c, frige, shorepower, etc. at least pretends to be a pleasure boat and needs to fit that purpose.
This isn't some silly conspiracy theory that I drummed up because I was bored... It's law...
Its amazing how people seek to impose higher standards on things on the water. Last time I checked car manufacturers didnt offer driver training couses with each new car sale. Although it may be a prudent thing to do, I dont think they have any obligation.
06-13-2010 | 07:15 PM
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Where do you get this crap from? Do you just feel the need to argue, so you put words in other people's mouths so you have something to refute?
I never said that they "intentionally" market their boats to amateurs (though they do), I just said that they DO market them to amateurs, and you admit that in your post
You bash me for saying that they "intentionally" market their boats to amateurs, which I never said prior to this post, then you admit that they do in fact market their boats to amateurs... I really don't understand you...
I never said that they "intentionally" market their boats to amateurs (though they do), I just said that they DO market them to amateurs, and you admit that in your post
You bash me for saying that they "intentionally" market their boats to amateurs, which I never said prior to this post, then you admit that they do in fact market their boats to amateurs... I really don't understand you...
Dammit... I was posting on that thread when it got deleted..
My Post:
It depends who the boat is marketed to (which is why I think they started offering the training course with the boat). The boat is being marketed to Joe Offshorewannabe, and if Joe Offshorewannabe 1, 2, 3, and 4 roll them, then there is a design flaw in the hull/rigging (for intensive purposes).
My Post:
It depends who the boat is marketed to (which is why I think they started offering the training course with the boat). The boat is being marketed to Joe Offshorewannabe, and if Joe Offshorewannabe 1, 2, 3, and 4 roll them, then there is a design flaw in the hull/rigging (for intensive purposes).
What exactly were you talking about then???
06-14-2010 | 11:34 AM
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God that is a stretch to imply that an OL isnt of merchaniable quality.
Its amazing how people seek to impose higher standards on things on the water. Last time I checked car manufacturers didnt offer driver training couses with each new car sale. Although it may be a prudent thing to do, I dont think they have any obligation.
Its amazing how people seek to impose higher standards on things on the water. Last time I checked car manufacturers didnt offer driver training couses with each new car sale. Although it may be a prudent thing to do, I dont think they have any obligation.
You'd have to see the thread that got deleted to put my posts in proper context, and note, I've never stated that an OL isn't of merchantable quality or that it is in fact unfit for its intended use. I merely brought up the possibility that it may not be based on numerous posted stories of them either rolling over or the ease at which it could happen.
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06-14-2010 | 11:38 AM
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06-14-2010 | 12:29 PM
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I told myself I was not going to get involved in a keyboard battle, but some of the nonsense here makes me chuckle. There have been 2 incidents involving 42 Ol's, out of 70 + that have been built, all of which are capable of running over 100 mph.
Both were results of driver error. The fact that we offered and encouraged the course was based on the fact that everybody has something to learn, It is easy for the majority of people on this board (who have never even been on a 42 OL) to comment and speculate on topics that they have no idea on what they are talking about.
The dumbest people on the planet are those who think they know everything.
Both were results of driver error. The fact that we offered and encouraged the course was based on the fact that everybody has something to learn, It is easy for the majority of people on this board (who have never even been on a 42 OL) to comment and speculate on topics that they have no idea on what they are talking about.
The dumbest people on the planet are those who think they know everything.
