Dave the old Cigarettes ran great also even the old 6000# 36' race boat hulls before rigging. Shape and Mass.

Again a heavy design built light will work with a ballast tank for snotty conditions, if not !! you are at the mercy and talent of the builder.

OK

I hear ya Dave re the speed thing, and I agree.

Lets talk $$$ and cents for a sec.

Do these things get any PREMIUM on sale, because of the rep and the history or because everyone wants to go faster in smooth water with less HP it all washes out ?


GGGEEEZZ something just sparked here.

Lorne Libel started a cement company up here in Canada a few years back.
Apache Cement. Now I got it.

Do they know where Hoffa is?







Performance boat buying habits are far different these days then when the 'ol wave crushers roamed the earth

Re incarnations like the 42 Saber are great boats without any doubt but would never pace something like a 42 Fountain in sales or any of the higher production hulls. Tell ya the truth if i had the means i would own Jassmans diesel 43 Nortech above all others, that boat is way cool and perfect for me. Noretch still builds boats on the wet heavy side and probably the closest thing these days to how the Apache's were built (this is meant as a compliment to you Nor Techies )

With all the hype re Apache over the years, performance etc.,

why havent the ventures smilarly named and using Apache molds and design, been successful ??
Are they regarded as KIT CARS, similar but not the real thing ??
No history, knockoffs etc ???

How is the Hustler layed up? In all talks of great boats they are never mentioned??

They have a good reputation and are cored from what I have seen.

Steve you are a wealth of knowledge - you should be writing a book or teaching.... I can see it now "boat building 101"

Steve 1, were the smaller apaches built with the same materials as the bigger ones? Obviously they weren't built the same as the ones with carbon fiber and kevlar, but what about the resin buckets?

They are a very niche boat, working best in conditions where many decide to stay on the dock. They take big power and upkeep to run. Most would settle for a boat that handles big water decent, but not great and go faster in small water with less power and expense. They do take a while to sell, but the resale on the apaches is good. Think of it as traveling in the winter, most are happy with all season radials (bayliners) a step up is snow tires... next you get 4wd and maybe chains (cigs beaks etc) when the blizzard hits, your stuck in the living room unless you have a snow cat........ Do many people desire snow cats?? no.... are there a few who do??? Are there those who dont think about snow cats or wonder whats so great about them when they get caught in a blizzard and they are stuck in their car in a ditch under a 6 foot snowdrift?? a few....