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Old 06-26-2010, 11:23 PM
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I hope the guys at OL's, when pricing these boats, know the differance in being "Proud" and being 'silly'...
Honest Question. Who do you think outerlimits is building this boat for? Current OL owners or the above average joe? I'd imagine its going to be 150-200k
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+1 I know those are all great built boats but except for Lavey Craft, most are bare bones stripped down boats. Sit down, not much of a cabin, etc. Not what most people are looking for.


Thats the beauty of a completely custom boat.
It can be as bare, or loaded as you decide when you build it.

Im curious to see what OL does with the interior space on their 28 ft boat, does anyone have the actual measurements and dimensions yet?


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OL 28 will be a 5man sitdown boat.
IMO, the cabin is just storage and a place to get out of the rain. No 28 go fast has the amenities for my family of 5. Actually, no 28 has it either... not just a go fast.

So, it can be compared to any 28... saber, pantera, sutphen, activator, joker, extreme, etc. But it will be an OL and they are striving to keep the basic 525 boat near 150k.

I look forward to the addition to the market place.
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That's the key, as Von Bongo said. The price can't be crazy, even if it is an OL.
I applaud the effort but have you ever seen an OL that didn't have a crazy price?
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Honest Question. Who do you think outerlimits is building this boat for? Current OL owners or the above average joe? I'd imagine its going to be 150-200k
Sunsation's 288 with all the option boxes checked could hit 125K easily with a 496 HO- http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o34165-en.html

The 32 SSR can hit 200K w/HO's- http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32517-en.html

The new 36 hits 300K- http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32822-en.html

If OL does it you can add 100K to those numbers easily simply because it will have a custom interior (Sunsation uses McCleod) and OL will start with blue motors vs. black.


Now those are MSRP numbers and certainly no one pays that rate but for those of you dreaming of a 99K OL it isn't going to happen......
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Might we see another builder get into SVL with the 28 footer?


Another Mikey vs Reggie shootout. Maybe Mikey could even stay around and run, not slip off in the middle of the night like the last time.

The Doc is looking pretty strong!
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:27 PM
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Sunsation's 288 with all the option boxes checked could hit 125K easily with a 496 HO- http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o34165-en.html

The 32 SSR can hit 200K w/HO's- http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32517-en.html

The new 36 hits 300K- http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32822-en.html

If OL does it you can add 100K to those numbers easily simply because it will have a custom interior (Sunsation uses McCleod) and OL will start with blue motors vs. black.


Now those are MSRP numbers and certainly no one pays that rate but for those of you dreaming of a 99K OL it isn't going to happen......

I can't believe I didn't ask about prices for these two models. We go back a few years and conversations tend to stray all over the place. That's my story, at least, and I'm sticking to it. I will call and get prices tomorrow.

A couple of things though ... whoever said the new Outerlimits models won't be affordable for the "average Joe" is correct. Jupiter's price correlations with Sunsation are really appropriate for the sake of comparison.

The other thing? Mike Fiore, like most builders I've spoken with in the past 18 months, thinks the "average Joe" new-boat buyer, meaning the guy who used to buy in the $100,000 to $200,000 range are mostly gone for the time being. It's not that they can't swing the payments, it's that thanks to the credit crunch and the devaluation of their own assets (homes, in particular), they can't qualify for the loans. So that's not the buyer he's going after, ergo what I believe will be pricing that is consistent with other Outerlimits models.
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I was told $150k for the 28 footer (about what a Lavey Evo 28 with good power would cost you) and $300k for the 36 footer hopefully with 525s.

Those don't seem totally off the mark to me. Have you priced a 38TG with 525's lately?
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Mike & I had a good talk today and were able to get things cleared up. A small misunderstanding on both sides.

And Mike I apologize for making a derogatory comment on a public forum.

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I was told $150k for the 28 footer (about what a Lavey Evo 28 with good power would cost you) and $300k for the 36 footer hopefully with 525s.

Those don't seem totally off the mark to me. Have you priced a 38TG with 525's lately?
150-300K gives you a lot of choices today both new and used......

As far as the new TG, have you noticed how many leftover 08-09's seem to be hanging around unsold. I think the buyers have reached their pain threshhold on price limits......

The OSO/700 boat is still asking 379K for a 3 year old boat with ugly paint and it has hours on it!
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