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Catmando 07-20-2010 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by JBS (Post 3164042)
JBS racing does have amazing recorces-obviously we don't have millions to spend on engines every year.The recorces I was referring to are people that would sacrifice their life to help you find out more than just happened but also why-not just why but definitively why.Also people who refreshingly care and genuinely want to see you succeed as well as provide real answers to simple questions.Getting prices up front is quite unusual but I can get used to it.

JBS vs. Geico in st Clair?...... Stay tuned

There's an old Indian saying, "he speaks with shadows on his tongue". Every time I read one of your posts I know less than I did before. You have a gift for speaking with shadows. :party-smiley-004:

DareDevil 07-21-2010 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=Comanche3Six;3163962] Turbine Marine's product is the high end of the Offshore Powerboat spectrum.QUOTE]

Isn't that what u said in an other post regarding MCMANUS ???:lolhit:

Where u ever at the shop your talking of ??....just say'n..:party-smiley-004:

AB From Windsor 07-21-2010 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by JBS (Post 3164042)
JBS racing does have amazing recorces-obviously we don't have millions to spend on engines every year.The recorces I was referring to are people that would sacrifice their life to help you find out more than just happened but also why-not just why but definitively why.Also people who refreshingly care and genuinely want to see you succeed as well as provide real answers to simple questions.Getting prices up front is quite unusual but I can get used to it.

JBS vs. Geico in st Clair?...... Stay tuned

I am looking forward to seeing JBS Racing and Miss Geico doing battle on the St. Clair River this weekend. Good luck to both Teams and have a safe race.

Back4More 07-21-2010 03:39 PM

Turbines are no fun...too many parts going all in the same direction.

Donzinator 07-21-2010 04:28 PM

I'm surprised to see the turbines last as long as they did. I've flown and maintained helicopters for 22 yrs and have done a lot of work on T53 L13 and L701 engines. The main cause of failure (mechanical) being governor failures. In aircraft the power output is fairly constant, but with these boats constantly going in and out of the water (loading and unloading the props) I would think you'd wear out the governor in no time and have a turbine overspeed which usually results in parts being flung all over the place at a high velocity. But as I said earlier I deal with aircraft and don't have a clue how these are setup in the boats. Come to think of it, every year I realize I know less and less about aircraft!:lolhit:

lightning jet 07-21-2010 08:58 PM

tick tock is JBS going to stclair I hope so would make for a great show

KNOT-RIGHT 07-21-2010 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by Donzinator (Post 3164621)
I'm surprised to see the turbines last as long as they did. I've flown and maintained helicopters for 22 yrs and have done a lot of work on T53 L13 and L701 engines. The main cause of failure (mechanical) being governor failures. In aircraft the power output is fairly constant, but with these boats constantly going in and out of the water (loading and unloading the props) I would think you'd wear out the governor in no time and have a turbine overspeed which usually results in parts being flung all over the place at a high velocity. But as I said earlier I deal with aircraft and don't have a clue how these are setup in the boats. Come to think of it, every year I realize I know less and less about aircraft!:lolhit:

The n2 Governor or in your pilots term Droop compensator
are safety wired in full positions. (locked wide open).
Throttling is accomplished via n1 gas producer.

Failures are such as FOD, or exceeding pyro temperatures.

Working with anything mechanical keeping cold
Coronas in the fridge goes along way:drink:

frankenstein 07-21-2010 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by skaterdave (Post 3162730)
phragle stop the geico stroke-fest.

the reason geico left is quite obvious if you just look at jbs's track record under arruda's care.

next all that this proves it with alot of $$$$$$$ you can buy a world champ trophy especially when your racing in a class by yourself.

Geico runs in a class by themselves because nobody steps up to challenge them. Some people appear and run a race here and there, or a radar run or shootout or whatever you want to call it, but nobody can compete with them on a regular basis. I commend the Geico team for that. Teams come and teams go, yet the Geico crew is always there. IMO, they are great for the sport

Catmando 07-22-2010 12:46 AM

The n2 Governor or in your pilots term Droop compensator
are safety wired in full positions. (locked wide open).
Throttling is accomplished via n1 gas producer. KNOT-RIGHT


Can you explain that in layman's terms? Does the N1 gas producer keep the engines from overspeeding when the props are out of the water? We've all seen Miss Geico out of the water many times but the motors don't seem to mind. Maybe it's Mongo's magic throttle arm? :D

skaterdave 07-22-2010 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by frankenstein (Post 3165102)
Geico runs in a class by themselves because nobody steps up to challenge them. Some people appear and run a race here and there, or a radar run or shootout or whatever you want to call it, but nobody can compete with them on a regular basis. I commend the Geico team for that. Teams come and teams go, yet the Geico crew is always there. IMO, they are great for the sport

thats one way to look at it???

how long you think they would last with out the 2 mill from geico?

it's easy to OUT "compete" someone when you have a biggest wallet.

stick some Lambo's in the mystic and run heads up agianst Qatar and see how much they like too "compete".

frankenstein go back and read some of the old articles about racing. Haggin joined WPPA and was going to run class one, but only if they let him run his 1450 hp turbine agianst the 930 hp piston motors. when they said no, he didn't go cause he didn't want to play by the rules.

this is why extreme class is destroying offshore racing. but hea this is just my opinion. i'm sure the TV will make it look like real racing.


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