JBS turbines explode!
 

Better get some reliable piston engines

Turbine Marine.......The best in the business! Second to none! Two of their tubines grenade? What are the odds of that? JBS must have sucked up a school of Herring or something cause this smells fishy!

Wow Big time setback. Sorry to hear.

I,m curious how both engines would fail.

JBS response under region/Midwest/Wisconsin-Oshkosh poker run
 

Something stinks:grinser010:

maybe some 93oct:eek: That sux$$$

Maybe it was because they owe John so much money??

That would stink.

:eek:

Two engines failing at the exact same time for different reasons sounds very improbable.

I hate to hear that because that is one good looking boat.

WTF, ya know, this situation really sucks for JBS, but what sucks more is a thread like this...this is where all the rumors and gossip start with all the little "smart-azz' remarks and conjecture.
:angry-smiley-038:

That's funny! :D

Money
 

No-that was last week I had to pay $90K to get my boat into my possession.

Cmon my fellow turbinator whats the verdict on the failure?

The verdict
 

It's too huge to give up just yet.We are dropping the bomb on aruddaland soon.

I hope he's insured, you know, maybe with All-state, or Prudential, or maybe with GEICO. It's always nice to have someone there for you, ALWAYS, never good to burn bridges. Good luck. I know you'll be back

Oh Lord, not a dirty horsechit bomb! They took out a Federal building with one of those!

Getting exposed
 

What do you mean "be back"-we are back and badder than ever!we have amazing recorces at our disposal.Expect to see us kicking some Geico ass in St Clair!

THATABOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COOL ! :coolcowboy:

Great news. Did you switch to another turbine supplier?

A few facts
 

"We at Turbine Marine Inc. push our product to it's limits,and beyond.We not only test our turbine engines in our fully equipped test facility,with out in-house turbine dynamometer ,we test entire new engine systems in pleasure boats and on the race circuit all year long,on a day to day basis.This is all to reassure our customers that they are getting the most reliable,powerful and refined engine package available today."

-this is a quote from turbine marines web site and what I (and others) believed to be true

-these are some quotes from John Arruda after the twin turbine failure

-"please get a life trust fund brat"
-"I did the maintenance on your boat"
-"I don't have to supply you or any customers with any part numbers"
-" if there was a oil pressure issue,it should have shown up on the gauge and warning light"
-"I will take care of any problems my customers may have when or if they arise"
-"all the work completed on the engines,including the spare was done as inexpensively as possible,as you had no money to spend"
-" there are many improvements that can be made to the spare engine now,if you want to spend the money"
-" in my opinion you should take it the way it is,and use it with care" (talking about spare turbine)
-"the alarms are on oil pressure and EGT only"

I was never given the option to have a lesser or better quality turbine built-and at no time did a conversation take place that involved compromising the integrity on the equipment

Turned down
 

Didn't they turn geico up and turn JBS down in key west 2008?that's ****ed up

What do you mean???

What caused the failures lack of oil pressure?

Who would have thought that within the price range of a turbine powered Mystic there would be this kind of bs from an engine builder. With the kind of money it takes to own and operate a boat like that you would think they could make life miserable for the builder.

What exactly does this mean ???

I think someone is implying that Geico was given a "tune up" and JBS was given a "tune down".....:eek:

I think it might actually be better at this point to let JBS and Turbine work it out offline, but I don't think that is going to happen given recent developements.

Runningtabs is implying that.

Who is Runningtabs ??

Who supposedly did the UP/DOWN tuning?? Turbine ??


There could be a hundred reasons why one boat was turned up and one down. Who knows where they were set on an individual basis in the first place ??

What I find ironic is that even if true, well especially if true, Gieco with their budget has gone to another turbine builder. Why? when your faster than anybody else why change? If your happy with product, price and support and are on top, why change? When you can crack 200 at will, nobodies chasing you and its running good why change?

Even if 4 new turbine mystic teams appeared tomorrow, it would still be a while before any really became a threat to Gieco, simply because of the testing, r&d, setup knowledge they have aquired over the last couple of years not to mention the seat time Mongo and Precious have in a turbine at speed. I think Marc is more comfortable running 180 in the boat than he is buying a slurpee at speedway....

On a given day skill can beat knowledge or knowledge can beat skill... when you have both...

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see JBS or anyone out there push them hard and make them actually have to run the boat. They aren't unbeatable, but your going to have to do your homework and eat your wheaties.

OMG, you went there

You know what? Sometimes your posts are so articulate you blow my mind.
Now if you only had a paid membership and posted 300 pics from St. Claire, the world would be round.:drink:

Mongo and Precious......



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHA:drink:

First "coffee-spitting" comment of the thread. Mongo and Precious? :kiss:

I cant take credit for that, I have seen that referance to them used several times before...

I just about choked on my lunch, from laughing so hard.

:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit::lolhit::lolhit::lolhit::l olhit:

Who is the alternative turbine builder.
I thought Turbine Marine were the only Marine based turbine supplier on the market?

http://www.whisperingturbines.com/

Whispering turbines Tracy Bratvold
PPS Turbines Jim Grasham
MTT Turbines Ted Mcintyre
Arneson industries


Arrudas where he is Because of a very generous man by the name of John Haggan:drink:

GEICO has their own in house rigging team now led by Gary Stray.

take a good guess