WTF??? You got a sweater vest? All I got was this lousy T-shirt.

How can you pass up the uncensored gril friends/wifes section and the little spinny prop thingy.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! SOS is still a haven for crooks and scammers. Most folks don't want to be associated with that...........

And that is it...this thread is feeling us out to see how far we will go because something is cooking to drive more revenue.

As i said before, and SS930 just reiterated, the advertisers "should" be paying the bills and more, but OSO is fishing around to see what we are willing to tolerate.

I think they should be "pitching" the advertisers and boat builders more and letting the viewers enjoy this site for what it is...or was.

I thought it would melt.....but it actually burst into flames !!!

nope. didn't even buy the last chick I banged a drink or a meal either. :eek:
frugality is the buzzword of these new times. :D

Impessing upon others that you have spare bills to light your cigars with is passe' :party-smiley-004:

Why ?? Did she have to get back to the corner you picked her up from ?? :lolhit::lolhit:

not bad... as tongue-in-cheek as my post was

but if you knew me you know that's never been neccessary. ;)

I was joking obviously.
I dont know ya , so I'll take your word for it:drink::drink:

I'm aware

what'd Joe Walsh say?

'life's been good to me so far'

i payed and never got my tee shirt and mug

now that would leave a bad taste in your mouth













maybe not, with no way to get it there. :lolhit:

[QUOTE=Rippem;3273968]nope. didn't even buy the last chick I banged a drink or a meal either. :eek:
frugality is the buzzword of these new times. :D


u find them kinds in Arkansas RIP :eek: sounds like are sloppy seconds and 3rds left a bad taste in your mouth :eek::lolhit:

This is a great thread. Now I know who not to sit with at Poker Run lunch stops.The cheap non-paying members,who will stiff us paying members with the bill.Or Rippem who will take all the ladies.:party-smiley-004:
Merry Christmas everyone

for the longer term members- here's a thread turner out of the way-back machine...

APACHE


on another note- nothing off the street, I just happen work in a target-rich environment :drink:

keeping it fun
good winter chatter

Merry Christmas to all
regardless of your place in life, count your blessings!

Im reporting this post to a mod. You wont get away with this!



:drink:

I'm not a real fan of the corporate world anymore after Baja Marine was destroyed by one, but HEY that has been good for the business we have started now. It has been a struggle to rise from the ashes, but OSO has been a big help to maintain the effort. We pay the $500.00 a year to have our website, and email in the signature (that was a hard click to make) and we never even got a thank you from anyone. We have yet to get support from anyone at IB, or mod's telling people to support the sponsors? We do get much support from past customers that are OSO members. I guess it boils down to the fact that I am willing to pay here based ONLY on the size of the membership.

Oh, and I often think how OSO profits from my 24 years of knowledge at Baja.

XT

Just my perspective from working for Boats.com—and continuing to work for Boats.com—since 2000: You cannot monetize a site on a "subcription" base (i.e. membership) to any significant level. (OK, maybe the porn sites do good business with that model, but that's it.)

What's more, once you have given something away it is very hard to start charging for it.

Need an example? Television. I'm not talking about cable channels, just basic network, network affiliates and local channels. It's free. If you started charging for it, people would riot in the streets. Same goes for websites. Access to most of them costs nothing.

That said, I am going to subscribe to offshoreonly.com, despite my contributions as a writer. Here's why: It's my way of showing support for the sponsors/advertisers, as well as the site itself. What OSO "sells" to the advertisers is you, the offshore/high-performance community. They can say with a straight face, "This is much traffic we can put your message in front of."

So whether you pay or not, whether you have serious information to contribute or just want to goof around, are inherently valuable to offshoreonly.

Whether you pay or not, you are valuable. My reason for ugrading today, as I said, is that it shows support for the advertisers on this site. As with magazines, advertisers, rather than members, will provide the lion's share of revenue for this site. That's just reality.

Last, for a bunch of diehard capitalists a lot of you guys sure seem to get hung up on the "corporate" label. I don't get it.

Now, if you want to bag on corporate chain restaurants, I'm with you.

No disrespect to the advertisers but has anyone ever thought of a reverse model where the members pay for the bandwidth/moderation fee's and advertisers aren't allowed? It would be a site owned by its members, sort of co-op.

Just something different to think about.... :grinser010::drink:

Thank You

Maybe some of the other paying members can explain why they pay when you really dont have to.

I only pay to see pictures... Most of the members I know who don't pay, usually call me up because they want to see pictures... It's still the largest offshore community out there....

I don't put much thought process into paying the bill....it's not very complicated... I am a member of other sites that are free and don't complain about having to pay here.

What ever floats your boat... If you wanna join the country club you pay the membership, if not go somewhere else. :)

This is the only site I pay to be on for a few reasons. Quality of information is second to none, I have met many very good people through the site, keeps me aware of what is going on locally and worldwide about the hobby/business I love and last but not least the RG thread got me to go platinum (with her performance this past year I will be going back to gold). I heard talk of a boy toy. All I can say girl is WHAT ABOUT US.

I will admit that I do look at long time non paying members as cheap freeloaders if they are constantly here asking for info and not contributing.

Same here! Plus I think it the least I could do to help out a site that is absolutely great!

Merry Christmas everyone

LOL - Thanks Brian :D No boy toy ... broken camera (lost the lense somewhere around the Casino during the halloween party :()... lack of time and/or new items to photograph ... but I'll work on that for you :kiss:

Been a member of Costco's for years and they give free samples! :D WTHeck

DID YOU SAY APACHE????????????????????????? FU . THIS IS WAR

I use sponsors on the boards for parts/services instead of going a cheaper route (wholesalers etc.) because I appreciate the support they give us with the message boards plus their customer service is usually better. I haven't needed interior work but your on the top of my list.

For example, I could buy props from a wholesaler or cheaper company but I use BBlades cause they are sponsors on several message boards I read (OSO, MWBP, TBM, etc.). What I'd save on one prop would would pay my membership here but I'd rather give them my money since their membership costs more than mine would. If I was a cheap a$$, I'd of used the info posted here and ordered a cheaper prop from a wholesaler but that's a pretty $hitty thing to do. Paying members can support OSO their way and i'll support OSO my way.

I subscribe to Boating, Boating World, Performance Boats, Powerboat, and pretty much all the other boat magazines. What I find weird is that an OSO membership costs more than my subscription to Performance Boats yet PB sends me magazines, t-shirt, has a message board, and gives me access to all their archives. Which sounds like a better deal to you?

You're actually the most valuable type of member Plowtown. It doesn't get any better than you. Advertising rates generally get degraded once they see the click throughs and sell throughs don;t amount to much of anything.

I guess I pay because I feel it is worth it. I enjoy this site, and what it has to offer, check it out most every day. By signing up an spending a few bucks you do get a little more.
I'd go VIP if the T' shirts came in my size, but they don't. :lolhit:

This is much like stopping by the local gin mill on the way home from work, the cocktail will for sure cost you more than making one at home, but you are paying for the atmosphere and being to share time with some friends for a while.

This is much like stopping by the local gin mill on the way home from work, the cocktail will for sure cost you more than making one at home, but you are paying for the atmosphere and being to share time with some friends for a while.__________________

Nicely put.

Just call it as I see it! :drink:

Contrary to those that seem to feel that "Frugality is the buzz word of these new times". You may not know him, I do! I just wonder if he's run out of closets at the hospital to take advantage of that "target rich enviroment".

this profound insight from a guy who does 99% of his drinking at home. :rolleyes:

Typical BS from this guy.
You may not know him, I do.

I wish more were like you.

I have read the entire thread and am surprised at some of the comments. People keep commenting about they can get the info for free elsewhere. Can you? Then why are you getting it here? Will you really get the correct info elsewhere? I have been to a bunch of other sites and I am floored at all of the horrible tech advice given. How much is the correct info worth? What if someone gives you some bogus advice and you scatter your engine. I'll bet this site will look a little more attractive then.
There is an unbelievable amount of useful advice here that I would be willing to bet was contributed more by paying members then registered members. By no means am I lumping everyone in the same catagory, but I would bet that more paying members contribute useful info and more registered members ask for help. It is understandable that people just register to ask a few questions. But, I also believe that repeated questions should at some point should warrant a membership to "give back". Where else are you going to get a true experts invaluable advice for free and know that it's correct?
Also, why should the advertisers pay the entire bill? I'm not sure about others, but I find it difficult to put a value on advertising here. I seriously doubt that I get a positive ROI just from my add. I get my ROI from spending hours a day answering questions and giving advice. I highly doubt that someone just sees my add and decides to call me to buy an engine. I would say that I am one of, if the not the most, active engine builders on here given advice and assistance. I'm not doing it to generate business, since the VAST majority of guys I help will never buy anything from me and I know it. I do it because I love what I do and I know what it's like to not be able to afford to pay someone to fix what's broken, everytime it breaks.
I'm here hanging out like everyone else who has a passion for this sport. Only I have to pay over 2K a year to do it.:drink:
I'm sure there will be plenty that don't agree with me, that is why I usually don't get involved in these types of threads. Just thought I would throw out an advertisers point of view.
Eddie

quoted out of post context, you go "boy"
nope.
but hey, if you concerned yourself a little more with what you have at home instead of how much azz I'm getting or where-
you wouldn't have to drink so much.

give what back? and to who?
IB didn't answer the question or give good advice, another boater did!
Maybe the other boater should get paid!

as far as who's doing what with the site:
I have asked 1 question that I can think of in the last couple years and that was just recently on the "planes" thread!
but I have posted good info/answers to others more than once in the last couple days alone!

So NO, you definitely wouldn't want to lump everyone together!!
Not to mention I paid 6 of 8 years I've been around and have contibuted as mentioned in an earlier post!

not you personally of course...
but many others taking the holy road even if not posting that stance might want to answer the question I asked earlier...as painful as it may be...

"have you contributed anything of real info/value?"

Imagine if facebook charged a fee like OSO, instead of Mark Zuckerburg being a billion air he would be a KA ZILLION AIR!!!

Out of post context, what part did I miss here? Freeloader is where it's at these days? Forgive me!

Pay if you want, don't pay if you don't want to, just don't get all up and righteous on those that feel it's worth the money and see some value in this site. Your value added is marginal at best.

Far as what I have at home, for sure not one of your closet queens, but it's honest and real. I surely don't view her the same as you do most of yours. Don't think I could sink that low.


P.S I win! Reaction is right on target!

Must be a slow night at the hospital. Do you even have this chit at home? Or do you just waste your employers time and money on here?

Or if they actually had a graphic on the back of the shirt like the old ones used to....:grinser010:

Does the HOT BOAT site even exist anymore? Just trying to figure out what comparable sites are left and cant come up with any.