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vindicator101 12-16-2010 09:12 PM

Swap Shop Etiquette
 
When a "HOT" item is posted in the Swap Shop section what is the protocol/common accepted procedure on this board for selling it? Who gets first dibs? Is it to sell it to the first person to respond to the post and willing to pay the asking price? The first person to call if a number is givin? Or to the person willing to pay the highest price over the asking price? I can see both sides weather it be first to respond or highest payer but just wondering what the common consensus with everyone is?

hawk232 12-16-2010 09:16 PM

on the various forums i am on i typically do the whole first person to actually make contact with me (if i NOTICE a pm before someone calls, the person through the pm has dibs) but if someone sends me a pm and i dont notice it and someone calls with money, they then get dibs. so i always do "the first person who actually gets in touch with me" gets it first. i never hold out for a better price, i feel its kinda rude... just alot of "damn i KNEW i should have asked more for that!!" to myself

antknee 12-16-2010 09:50 PM

Id say first come first serve but unfortunately it doesnt always work out that way. As in this case which brought this thread to attention if it was going to be an auction it would have been nice to know that from the original post of the product, therefore others couldve chimed in with there bids and it really could have turned into a pissing contest!!! Id say thats my .02 on it but Im sure someone will outbid me with there .04 and so on and so on...

US1 Fountain 12-16-2010 10:03 PM

I always honor 1st contact has 1st dibs. No exceptions.
If I wanted to sell to highest bidder, I'd ebay it.

After reading Tres's ad, RBR was 1st to committ to the complete package as advertised. I'd say he had 1st dibs. But that's not knowing of any PM's and phone calls, but the $500 offer kinda says it all.

Why don't you 2 offer $501 if that's how the sell is going to be determined? :)

wjb21ndtown 12-16-2010 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by US1 Fountain (Post 3276642)
I always honor 1st contact has 1st dibs. No exceptions.
If I wanted to sell to highest bidder, I'd ebay it.

After reading Tres's ad, RBR was 1st to committ to the complete package as advertised. I'd say he had 1st dibs. But that's not knowing of any PM's and phone calls, but the $500 offer kinda says it all.

Why don't you 2 offer $501 if that's how the sell is going to be determined? :)

I agree. If I sell something too cheap or miss out on something, oh well. I'll get 2nd in line, but I won't up the offer. To each their own though...

DirtyMoney 12-16-2010 11:24 PM

Well I got the gauges for $500. Lightning Jet ran the price up and was given the chance to call by 10am and never did so I got them. This is typical when selling on ebay somebody runs a bid up and forces a legitimate buyer out and never pays. I feel I still got a good deal.
As far as calling I saw the ad at 9pm and would never call anyone this late so posting and PMing was the only option till morning.

Rottiguy 12-17-2010 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by rbr2328 (Post 3276673)
Well I got the gauges for $500. Lightning Jet ran the price up and was given the chance to call by 10am and never did so I got them. This is typical when selling on ebay somebody runs a bid up and forces a legitimate buyer out and never pays. I feel I still got a good deal.
As far as calling I saw the ad at 9pm and would never call anyone this late so posting and PMing was the only option till morning.

Should have sold it for the original asking price of $425. NOT RAISE THE PRICE BECAUSE OF A BS OFFER! RBR agreed to the full asking price first, should have been a done deal. Lightning jet should have been given second option to buy if RBR didn't come through. Guess I'm just old fashioned, doing the right thing and a handshake still mean something to me. If a customer and I have deal, its a deal. I would never try to get more from them, because someone is trying to "out bid" them. Guess I should be grateful I was raised better then that. I would be embarrassed if I did something like that and my father found out. He taught me to work hard and be honest. You can only rip someone off once, but you can have a customer and friend for life.

Griff 12-17-2010 01:43 AM

Board etiquette in the past has been the first person to commit, gets the first option.

Personally, I think offering more $$ to steal them out from under another member is BS.

Jesse James 12-17-2010 04:30 AM

i agree with griff and most others if u want more make it an auction or do a thread with the highest pm offered by a certain date gets it etc...

hawk232 12-17-2010 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3276687)
Board etiquette in the past has been the first person to commit, gets the first option.

Personally, I think offering more $$ to steal them out from under another member is BS.

the only thing that is more bs than that is the SELLER ACCEPTING the offer and booting the "rightful buyer"!!:bsflag:

CigDaze 12-17-2010 07:37 AM

First come, first serve. Period. It's not that difficult. There was a clear commitment to fulfill the deal for asking price, and it should have ended there.

That was complete bullsht! Talk about some dick moves. Those are rbr's gauges, and he should have paid 425.00.

Rottiguy 12-17-2010 07:45 AM

RBR got the gauges, but not for the advertised asking price of $425. He had to pay the bogus offer price of $500...

sonicss42 12-17-2010 08:23 AM

The right thing the seller should do is refund $75 back to buyer in order to maintain a sense of integrity. Only my opinion, we all make mistakes but this one could be corrected.

TEAMBAJA 12-17-2010 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by rbr2328 (Post 3276673)
Well I got the gauges for $500. Lightning Jet ran the price up and was given the chance to call by 10am and never did so I got them. This is typical when selling on ebay somebody runs a bid up and forces a legitimate buyer out and never pays. I feel I still got a good deal.
As far as calling I saw the ad at 9pm and would never call anyone this late so posting and PMing was the only option till morning.

So why pay $500? That was an ad with a set price, not an auction!

pachanga 12-17-2010 11:15 AM

I posted this in the original thread offer:


Originally Posted by Tres (Post 3275888)
looks like the 500 buyers gonna get it. I had to turn off my phone last night.

I must say I am quite surprised how you handled this! Is $75 really worth the negative slant it gives your charactor? I am in a business where this situation presents itself to me frequently. If I took the extra $75 each time my customer base would erode to nothing over time.

I think you should mark this up as a lesson learned and stand by your original price!

PS! I have no dog in this hunt and don't know anyone envolved...just a matter of business ethics IMHO!

pachanga 12-17-2010 11:24 AM

Tres! This got me to thinking about a scenario in your business!

What would you do if you had a class that was full. Someone comes along that wants to take your class and offers $500 more to get in the class which is full. Would you take the $500 and bump someone out,if so,how would you choose who to bump?

TEAMBAJA 12-17-2010 11:25 AM

Hell, I wish I would have seen the ad first and bought them. I split them into 2 sets and hold a couple of auctions to the first 4 guys that posted looking for a set for a single.

Maybe someone should contact Tres to let him know this is going on. Im sure he will repond and resolve this.

Velocity Vector 12-17-2010 11:31 AM

Same thing happend to me in a Whore house one time I got beat out by just 2"

smokin' gun 12-17-2010 05:03 PM

the whole deal that went on with the gauges was bull .my friend was sent a pic of the gauges listed on line and got in touch with the guy .he was told they were his at the 425.00 price and to call back in the morn with all the info to complete the sale . for 75.00 he was beat out of the gauges .that in my book was a sleezy move .i come from the old school a simple handshake will do or your word .if you dont have that your worthless .if this was to be an auction why not list on ebay .just my 2 cents

greencard 12-17-2010 05:42 PM

just boat parts
 
I too have swapped etc on swap shop, my favotirte section of this board, but REALLY its just boat parts. Sometimes you get a break and sometimes you get ripped. I just cant understand guys with thousand dollar boats upset over hundred dollar parts. As with everything it is not yours until you have PAID!!!! Happy Boating:drink:

Pete280 12-17-2010 07:44 PM

let me get this straight, it was advertised for $425, some other guy offered to pay $500 but never paid and you were told the new price is $500? Not something I would ever do, guess I am too nice of a guy.

I DIG IT !! 12-17-2010 07:50 PM

I feel the frist person to make contact wins!!!! If there is a number people should call it frist. I always leave a number and people still leave me a pm or email. But I like to talk to someone on the other side of the phone. You get a better feel for the person that way just my 2cents.

TEAMBAJA 12-17-2010 08:46 PM

Well, he responded to his ad. Not the response I was expecting. Oh well, maybe we learned something today. :picard1:

US1 Fountain 12-17-2010 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by TEAMBAJA (Post 3277396)
Well, he responded to his ad. Not the response I was expecting. Oh well, maybe we learned something today. :picard1:

Ya think? :)

Originally Posted by Tres (Post 3277108)
....... and if someone was offering alittle more money, it going to sell to them. I try to be fair,


tomtbone1993 12-17-2010 09:25 PM

Just curious how often do people offer more than the asking price in the swap shop? I don't spend that much time in there in less I am selling something.

vindicator101 12-17-2010 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 3277421)
Just curious how often do people offer more than the asking price in the swap shop? I don't spend that much time in there in less I am selling something.

This is the first time I've seen this happen. That's what made it so interesting. Guess it was RBR's lucky day, congrats!

Rookie 12-17-2010 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by vindicator101 (Post 3277486)
This is the first time I've seen this happen. That's what made it so interesting.

WOW, I just read the thread and thought you were asking about who gets first dibs. I always get my PM's before I ever get to check a thread if I have something for sale. I then see what time I received the PM vs when someone posted on the thread. Then who has the full or best offer. I did not know that this turned into a bait and switched price. :eek:

lightning jet 12-18-2010 12:00 AM

wow holy crap this is not what I had in mind I was looking at a good deal ,,,,,,,,,,,Rbr come up to lake erie any time dinner and drinks on me.

For all the rest of the peeps I don't live on this thing the offer was real,just got tyed up at the shop

lightning jet 12-18-2010 12:11 AM

I'm sorry tres I was just trying to get a good deal its a dog eat dog world.

twin69 12-19-2010 08:08 PM

I was also told to call him at 10 to pay, he wasnt able to take a payment untill the morning. I called him and he told me his phone was ringing all night and had to even shut his phone off because of all the calls. So i figured great, he shut his phone off because it was sold to me. But then he says somebody offered him more $$. Some people just have no class, if he needs the extra 75$ that bad he can have it. As far selling things to cheap goes your the one making up the price so you should know what its worth. Besides were talking 75.00$ not 75,000$. He a penny pincher, if he wanted an auction on the guages he should have went to ebay or posted AUCTION!!!

twin69 12-19-2010 08:15 PM

I was also told to call him at 10 to pay, he wasnt able to take a payment untill the morning. I called him and he told me his phone was ringing all night and had to even shut his phone off because of all the calls. So i figured great, he shut his phone off because it was sold to me. But then he says somebody offered him more $$. Some people just have no class, if he needs the extra 75$ that bad he can have it. As far selling things to cheap goes your the one making up the price so you should know what its worth. Besides were talking 75.00$ not 75,000$. He a penny pincher, if he wanted an auction on the guages he should have went to ebay or posted AUCTION!!!

nxfirebird 12-19-2010 09:59 PM

wow, what a dick move, some people are a real P.O.S.

Keytime 12-19-2010 11:45 PM

FWIW...

We've been doing a bit of remodeling/organizing/cleaning-out at our house and we have sold and given away a number of items on Craigslist. I would hold an item for the first responder and, if that fell through, I would offer it in the order that potential buyers responded. I got tired of that chit. Too many deadbeat buyers. So, now I let all potential buyers know that the first to show up gets it. We've made exceptions for people who do show sincerity and might need more time to come by. Some folks are a little down on their luck or falling on hard times.

I would think that OSO would have fewer deadbeat buyers than the general public, but I haven't bought or sold anything on the Swap Shop. IMO, I think the first responder on here should get an item as long as they work in harmony with the seller and do not inconvenience them. Otherwise, "next".

Just my $.02.

smokin' gun 12-20-2010 05:45 PM

i guess if this is the way it works . the next time i see him selling something i may be interested in ill just have to watch the posts and offer a little more than the last guy and ill own it . it obvious theirs no morals here . cash is king

TEAMBAJA 12-20-2010 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by fastek (Post 3279418)
i guess if this is the way it works . the next time i see him selling something i may be interested in ill just have to watch the posts and offer a little more than the last guy and ill own it . it obvious theirs no morals here . cash is king

Offer him $500 for his boat class. :eek:

blue thunder 12-20-2010 06:46 PM

Hmmm, not good. I one time had 2 sets of KE dyno time headers for sale. I was asking $1,500/set. I started getting calls and the first guy said he would take them, 3k all in. I continued to get calls and ended with one guy badgering the crap out of me and offering 5k for the headers. He just had to have them. Guess who got the headers? The first guy that said he would pay my price of $1,500/set. I can tell you it almost killed me to pass up that 2k, but it was worth it. I'd feel like an ass to this day if I took the low road. This seller of gauges needs to look within and consider what they stand for.

CigDaze 12-20-2010 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by blue thunder (Post 3279485)
Hmmm, not good. I one time had 2 sets of KE dyno time headers for sale. I was asking $1,500/set. I started getting calls and the first guy said he would take them, 3k all in. I continued to get calls and ended with one guy badgering the crap out of me and offering 5k for the headers. He just had to have them. Guess who got the headers? The first guy that said he would pay my price of $1,500/set. I can tell you it almost killed me to pass up that 2k, but it was worth it. I'd feel like an ass to this day if I took the low road. This seller of gauges needs to look within and consider what they stand for.

That, my friend, is called integrity. Good on you.
:cool:

Turbojack 12-20-2010 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by pachanga (Post 3276958)
Tres! This got me to thinking about a scenario in your business!

What would you do if you had a class that was full. Someone comes along that wants to take your class and offers $500 more to get in the class which is full. Would you take the $500 and bump someone out,if so,how would you choose who to bump?

Are you still wondering what he would do?

Sick Stinger 12-20-2010 08:33 PM

BS plane an simple. How bad do you need the part? Id say even if he had it look else where because you will pay more then you should it seems.
-Mike

Tres 12-20-2010 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by lightning jet (Post 3277506)
I'm sorry tres I was just trying to get a good deal its a dog eat dog world.

Gezzz too much drama, Move on! All this BS over some used parts? Its over already. Sorry I sold em.


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