Mercury Racing Introduces 1100
 

Happening right now, http://boatermouth.com//index.php?vi...ntent&Itemid=8.

they say it come with the nxt drive on 1100 pony's i think that will be the week link if anyone buy's it with that drive

mike

$172,700.00:bsflag::lolhit:

Are they dropping the #6 drive?

Suggested retail/list price. May or may not be what the consumer pays based on what the OEM is willing to do.

That's with the Super Speed Master unit. Also, the 1100 uses the same transmission as the 1350.

1075's and 1200's are history. next will be a 900 and the 850's will be history. could be already since the 1075 is just a turned up 850. amazing.

with merc's m.s.r.p. that will mean you could buy it for about half that . just a guess here but that seem's to be the way they price stuff .
ex, 525 efi package msrp $ 60k+
whole sale price $ 35k it's almost half
of course unless you are a baller and pay full price for everything :)

mike

Talk about a real kick in the nuts for the guys that built new boats in the last two years. They put 1200's in them for the power to be the best. Now all of a sudden the best isn't even going to be made. Makes a new boats depreciation even worse when all of a sudden the production power is no more.

However I do really like the idea of their turbo motors.

Yeah, no kidding........ I can tell you that I would be discouraged for sure; spend that kind of coin on something thats obsolete. Geez, its not like you're buying a TV or computer!

I always thought turbo's generated a sh#tlo*d of heat. Are the new vent designs capable of shedding the kind of heat those turbos must generate? Cooled turbos maybe?

its just awesome though what merc is doing. lower maintenance, 89 octane, longer life, longer warranty, 1100hp, about time technology is being used.

The way I see it, this could be a good thing for independent engien builders such as Eddie Young, Randy Garcia, Potter ect. There is still a good market for supercharged engines, and this could more or less force the boat builders, that normally would only use merc racing blown engines, to turn to other builders, in order to sell thier boats.

Just a thought:drink:

Do I read this right, the new 1100 doesn't require the same octane as a 700?

I've been saying for a long time that turbos are the future for our sport... I'm suprised it has even taken this long.

It's good to see Merc is seeing the light, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the majority of aftermarket builders join the movement. Yes, I know there are a few guys doing one-offs right now, but it's only a matter of time before we're swapping turbos like we do SC's around here.

Remember the thread not long ago talking how turbo motors could never be used in offshore boats?

Things always change,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Fools I say! :D

Honestly, I know Dustin will argue this, but SC's of any type just cant compete with properly sized and designed turbos. The only place I see SC's having an advantage is with instant throttle response and often more power at lower RPM's. In a performance boat I dont care all that much about either.

So if they get rid of the 850sci, you will only have pretty much three engine choices for high hp (700,1100,1350)? Seems like there are a lot of boat owners that want somewhere between 700 and 1100 hp but still have stock Merc stuff...

Peering into my crystal ball, I can see merc
taking the hairdryers off the 1350/1100's and
coming up with something in the 700 hp range, then
bye-bye goes the 700SCi.

http://www.mercuryracing.com/blog/th...ami/#more-1896

for those that dont understand the power capability of turbos:
http://www.mercuryracing.com/blog/bi...onster-torque/

The 1,100's are in the new Cig 42X Ducati boat.

they will make a 900hp next is my guess. The 700 took a lot of development and time, i guess they leave that there for a while. Good motor, doesn't need rebuilding or valve changes for 400-500 hours??

alot different from the 850 to 1200 sci line up.

Turbos rock!

C'est La Vie...

Say good bye to push rods....The prices on these things are ridiculous...200+ per side? The NXT is a great drive but with 1100hp?....The #6 is still the king...aside the M8...the torque rating of the NXT is only 800lbs...I wonder how they're pulling this off......

Who would've thought reliable power 89 octane...amazing what technology has done. Now we need someone aftermarket to duplicate these heads...for marine use...(I can remember a few examples of those who tried) but pushrods always came back...

Honestly, I understand this is a great setup...but not for 400k not even including the boat...

If I read that correctly the tranny from the 1300/1350's with NXT tansom assembly's and SSM drives mated to the new 1100 turbo motor.

I read that as well...but still...eh we'll see..price is still astronomical..

Thats suggested retail-- not a set in stone price. It can be 60% of that price.

Awesome! Thanks Merc keep it up. :coolcowboy:

It's merc, there will always be a premium for it...either or cool stuff...

NXT SSM = MC6 with different input u-joint shaft

To answer an earlier post it looks as though the turbos are water cooled im 99% sure

Thank you for clearing this up, that makes more sense.

I have the same comment I made for the unveiling of the 1350's..........you can buy a beautiful, complete running boat for what the power alone costs.

Jeremy's AM2, 299K or a pair of 1100's/drives for 340K (list).

I know the 1350's are selling like hotcakes but in reality the two or three dozen sets sold isn't the norm in the industry right now.

Need to be equipping marine setups with a VGT turbo setup.

Merc has seemingly perfected twin turbos, now just apply to basically any cubic inch they want and they can have any power they want... just give it time, the first I phone was expensive too, now they sell them on the street corner and anyone can jailbreak them. pairs of 1075's are now in the 50-70kmarket, in 3 years these will be less as well.

:ernaehrung004:

That 1100 is a great engine...!!

Cant wait to see em in person...!!!:drink:

Look like a standard turbo diesel, they removed all the bling such as the carbon inlets and carbon trim to keep cost down.

The discount is nowhere near 60%, typically about half that.

I don't know if anyone said they'll never be used, they've been used for years.

Properly designed supercharger systems can compete with turbos, especially with OEM spec motors and OEM style turbos (vs better aftermarket turbos from turbonetics, etc). Making 1350hp with a CAD designed air intake system on that enigne would be very easy to achieve with a twin screw, and the twin screw would be cheaper to produce and easier to package around.

Mercury has made a nice piece and its great, but its not the end all solution, and they put in millions of dollars to get the turbos/exhaust...... to work properly. Very few have the resources to duplicate. For every advancement they make, the aftermarket comes up with something similar or better.

One key componet to the motors is the twin overhead variable cams. The things you can do with that is incredible while maintaining great valve train life. Someone like Dart, AFR, Brodix....... need to build one of these heads for the big block. The problem is the expense of these heads, easily would surpass a heavily ported big chief style.

Mercury has made a nice piece and its great, but its not the end all solution, and they put in millions of dollars to get the turbos/exhaust...... to work properly. Very few have the resources to duplicate. For every advancement they make, the aftermarket comes up with something similar or better.


As an example of how right this is^^^Tommy Hofstetter has been building 1200hp twin turbo motors for quite a while now, and so have others, so Merc is really a Johnny-Come-Lately to this party. Once Tommy got the electronics figured out, he could run the engines on 93 Octane with the cam profile of a 525EFI motor. I might be wrong, but I don't think any SC motor is capable of that.