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Matt Trulio 03-15-2011 05:41 PM

Class 1 Cat Complete, Outerlimits Eyes V-Bottom Kilo Record
 
Mike Fiore and company are staying busy, http://boatermouth.com//index.php?vi...ntent&Itemid=8.

LESSONLEARNED 03-15-2011 06:28 PM

3,600HP Vee Bottom should be a Runner...
 
Can't wait to see more of the Class 1 boat than this...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a..._4992499_n.jpg

DollaBill 03-15-2011 06:49 PM

Interesting. Would be funny to see Reggie help OL kill the Fountain record. What a diff a few years makes huh?

Smarty 03-15-2011 06:51 PM

I think OL will break the V-Bottom record. My bet would be on the record being broken.

dykstra 03-15-2011 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3351210)
Interesting. Would be funny to see Reggie help OL kill the Fountain record. What a diff a few years makes huh?

Interesting!!:drink:

Boomer35 03-16-2011 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3351210)
Interesting. Would be funny to see Reggie help OL kill the Fountain record. What a diff a few years makes huh?

pretty sure they dont need the help, but it is awesome to see two of the best like that

SS930 03-16-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 3351508)
pretty sure they dont need the help, but it is awesome to see two of the best like that

Agreed. Plus they have Dan (not shown)! :party-smiley-004:

PARADISE ISLAND 03-16-2011 08:27 AM

Talk about a disgrunted employee:evilb:Help beat his own record!:eek:Oh yea are those elfs or boat racers?

ILMORdude 03-16-2011 08:46 AM

This is going to be an interesting summer!!

Too Stroked 03-16-2011 10:23 AM

Ah, how a little time changes things - except what's left of Reggie's hair of course. This could be very interesting.

DollaBill 03-16-2011 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 3351508)
pretty sure they dont need the help, but it is awesome to see two of the best like that

There's several threads about this already. Bottom line is they couldn't break it when the attempted last time and they have had 6 years to try again. Those are facts and are clear. So, obviously, they can use help from the guy who currently holds the record.

precisiondetails 03-16-2011 12:41 PM

U would think they didn't need Reggies help considering they have had 7 years of developing new technology and having 500 more horse power, bud yes OL and Mike need Reggies help anytime they can get it when it comes to speed and performance!

Club Drew 03-16-2011 12:49 PM

Here say Reggie had a V-hull that could do 200 mph wonder if it's at OL plant or Fountain kept it?:party-smiley-004:

thisistank 03-16-2011 01:48 PM

what a difference a year makes, indeed! I had a feeling this would be in the works. ;)

http://www.powerboatmag.com/time-for...;-3/24/10.html

Glad to hear the OL camp are eye balling this record again. The rivelry made for some good reading and story telling around the dock back then!

Good luck to all involved. Be safe!

Mastercraft240 03-16-2011 02:06 PM

Not so sure Reggie will be helping OL beat the record. Don't forget, Reggie has his own thing, RF Powerboats, going into place. If OL breaks the record, it'll be on their watch with Mike Fiore on the throttles, Fiore working the CG, and Fiore tweaking the set up. I'm also not convinced that OL couldn't beat the record 6 years ago-- I'm not saying they could have either. Reggie dumped ALOT of money to beat that record and he went bankrupt because of it....... not that other things didn't play a part as well. OL is still going strong..... I mean that shop is BUSY building I don't know how many boats and servicing/upgrading others as well. From a financial and business perspective it wasn't in the cards for them. Now it is. Why put a "it took 6 years to do it" or "If they break it, its because reggie helped" (no-one actually said this, yet). I hope they do break it..... that way reggie will REALLY step up his game!

DollaBill 03-16-2011 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Mastercraft240 (Post 3351850)
Not so sure Reggie will be helping OL beat the record. Don't forget, Reggie has his own thing, RF Powerboats, going into place. If OL breaks the record, it'll be on their watch with Mike Fiore on the throttles, Fiore working the CG, and Fiore tweaking the set up. I'm also not convinced that OL couldn't beat the record 6 years ago-- I'm not sayingp they could have either. Reggie dumped ALOT of money to beat that record and he went bankrupt because of it....... not that other things didn't play a part as well. OL is still going strong..... I mean that shop is BUSY building I don't know how many boats and servicing/upgrading others as well. From a financial and business perspective it wasn't in the cards for them. Now it is. Why put a "it took 6 years to do it" or "If they break it, its because reggie helped" (no-one actually said this, yet). I hope they do break it..... that way reggie will REALLY step up his game!

I said it. and its facts. hopefully its a safe and successful attempt. the financial commitment to breaking the record had no bearing on the demise of fpb.

ApachePete 03-16-2011 04:47 PM

Would somebody PLEASE take Reggie to a good barber?

Or even a bad one.:party-smiley-004:

47EXCALIBUR 03-16-2011 05:09 PM

they will easily break the record and it has nothing to do with Reggie,,, it has to bo with the guy on the far right,,Mike Faucher who is the engine builder OL hired...OL is going for the record in their current race boat and putting the engines in that they posted on Youtube that make 1800+hp....

DollaBill 03-16-2011 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by 47EXCALIBUR (Post 3351985)
they will easily break the record and it has nothing to do with Reggie,,, it has to bo with the guy on the far right,,Mike Faucher who is the engine builder OL hired...OL is going for the record in their current race boat and putting the engines in that they posted on Youtube that make 1800+hp....

You can put 3600 hp in a bath tub. Doesnt mean it will go fast

dfealy 03-16-2011 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3352031)
You can put 3600 hp in a bath tub. Doesnt mean it will go fast

Oh yes it will! The question is will it go fast enough to break the Fountain record? That's better said.

DollaBill 03-16-2011 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by dfealy (Post 3352069)
Oh yes it will! The question is will it go fast enough to break the Fountain record? That's better said.

Yes, well put.

Matt Trulio 03-16-2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3352093)
Yes, well put.

Often, slowing down once you get reach big speed is more challenging than getting there.

Ask John Tomlinson about his Cigarette kilo run experience.

OL40SVX 03-16-2011 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by dfealy (Post 3352069)
Oh yes it will! The question is will it go fast enough to break the Fountain record? That's better said.

The hull is proven 170+ with smaller motors.

DollaBill 03-17-2011 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Matt Trulio (Post 3352278)
Often, slowing down once you get reach big speed is more challenging than getting there.

Ask John Tomlinson about his Cigarette kilo run experience.

Yes, I heard it was a handful, to put it mildly

DollaBill 03-17-2011 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3352281)
The hull is proven 170+ with smaller motors.

Nothing is proven until the record is set. If we go down that road, the Fountain saw 183+ on one pass and the 200+ was capable. It will be a fun project without question.

Catastrophe 03-17-2011 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3352380)
Nothing is proven until the record is set. If we go down that road, the Fountain saw 183+ on one pass and the 200+ was capable. It will be a fun project without question.



Actually this doesnt sound like fun at all.

Sounds like a waste of money and proves nothing.

Boomer35 03-17-2011 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3351731)
There's several threads about this already. Bottom line is they couldn't break it when the attempted last time and they have had 6 years to try again. Those are facts and are clear. So, obviously, they can use help from the guy who currently holds the record.

thats got to be the craziest thing ive read on this subject. Just because OL didnt break the record in there last attempt doesnt mean they need Reggie to help them. And because they didnt try in the last 6 yrs doesnt mean they need help. It means they were busy building bad ass boats and keeping there doors open during the worst economy most of us have ever, and will ever see.. It means they go back to the drawing board, redesign, and try again... Sort of the American way isnt it?...

i guess only time will tell if OL breaks the record with Reggies help, but in my opinion there would have to be an Astrics at the record!

Also, was the fountain boat that currently holds the record built at fountain or was it one of the skater laid up boats? I've heard a few of the cat killers or fountain kilo boats were skater built, but i never really did hear all the facts from any credible sources.

i think Reggie is the man, so this isnt Reggie hatin, i also think really highly of OL, and every aspect of OL

PARADISE ISLAND 03-17-2011 07:58 AM

If they could break the record believe me they whould!:cool-smiley-011:

DollaBill 03-17-2011 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 3352417)
thats got to be the craziest thing ive read on this subject. Just because OL didnt break the record in there last attempt doesnt mean they need Reggie to help them. And because they didnt try in the last 6 yrs doesnt mean they need help. It means they were busy building bad ass boats and keeping there doors open during the worst economy most of us have ever, and will ever see.. It means they go back to the drawing board, redesign, and try again... Sort of the American way isnt it?...

i guess only time will tell if OL breaks the record with Reggies help, but in my opinion there would have to be an Astrics at the record!

Also, was the fountain boat that currently holds the record built at fountain or was it one of the skater laid up boats? I've heard a few of the cat killers or fountain kilo boats were skater built, but i never really did hear all the facts from any credible sources.




i think Reggie is the man, so this isnt Reggie hatin, i also think really highly of OL, and every aspect of OL

Ummm, what's crazy or more importantly untrue about these statements?

1. They couldn't break it when they attempted it.
2. It's been 6 years since the last attempt.
3. The man who currently holds the record can be of value to anyone trying to break the record

Please, enlighten everyone

Catastrophe 03-17-2011 09:02 AM

I know this chase for the elusive record makes for great fodder for this gabfest, but I never understood the value in it.
The object of a boat building company is to sell boats to the public and I dont get how throwing a ton of HP into a speciallized hull aids any of that.

Going 200 in a V bottom for 2 seconds under perfect water coditions is hardly the measure of the product sold to the public.

I suspect that attitude added to the demise in some part, of the company that holds the record.

just my .02

Matt Trulio 03-17-2011 09:17 AM

For the record, Mike Fiore never said or in any way implied during our hour-long interview (doing a story on Outerlimits that will appear on Boats.com next month) that Reggie Fountain would be helping him with his planned kilo record efforts. So while it's interesting to talk about, at this point it's nothing more than pure speculation because, again, he gave no indication that was part of his plan.

Catastrophe 03-17-2011 02:40 PM

When I read stuff like this I think of the other side of the coin.

Firstly I dont think you sell one boat by going 180 plus in a custom made,custom powered specialized piece of equipment.
But what you do accomplish is putting 3 groups of people at risk for no real gain.

The obvious group is the immediate families of whoever is in the boat.

The next group is the employees of the company whose income depends on the general good health of the business as well as its owner.

The third group is the existing current owners of that brand of boat. You already have their money but you cant forget that the value of their toy depends on the future existence of the manufacturer and the continued service and product coming forward year after year.

Some company executives arent even allowed to fly in the same plane, let alone attempt 200 mph in an overpowered boat.
With that all being said, I find all this worrisome with respect to the three groups mentioned.

Its real cool to sit on here and cheer them on .

I wish the best for them.........stay home and keep making great boats. This year next year and forever.

OL doesnt have to prove anything to anyone regarding all this considering the risk involved.

LAriverratt 03-17-2011 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3352745)
When I read stuff like this I think of the other side of the coin.

Firstly I dont think you sell one boat by going 180 plus in a custom made,custom powered specialized piece of equipment.
But what you do accomplish is putting 3 groups of people at risk for no real gain.

The obvious group is the immediate families of whoever is in the boat.

The next group is the employees of the company whose income depends on the general good health of the business as well as its owner.

The third group is the existing current owners of that brand of boat. You already have their money but you cant forget that the value of their toy depends on the future existence of the manufacturer and the continued service and product coming forward year after year.

Some company executives arent even allowed to fly in the same plane, let alone attempt 200 mph in an overpowered boat.
With that all being said, I find all this worrisome with respect to the three groups mentioned.

Its real cool to sit on here and cheer them on .

I wish the best for them.........stay home and keep making great boats. This year next year and forever.

OL doesnt have to prove anything to anyone regarding all this considering the risk involved.

no disrespect meant here but if we all thought like that we'd still be going 35mph wouldn't we????

Catastrophe 03-17-2011 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 3352749)
no disrespect meant here but if we all thought like that we'd still be going 35mph wouldn't we????



You are missing the point. Mr. Sgro and Mr. Fiore shouldnt be in the boat together attempting all this.

Firstly its a complete waste of money and secondly when you exist in an industry this small sometimes you can look around and see what your peers are doing to promote their product.

Do you see any other owners doing this ?? Wonder why.

The only other person that tried all this as a marketing tool went broke.

OL40SVX 03-17-2011 03:22 PM

All I'm going to say is don't believe what you read on here........cause most of the time it's bs and wrong.

DollaBill 03-17-2011 03:31 PM

Most of the time yes, but not all the time..... depends on who's posting ;)

OL40SVX 03-17-2011 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3352778)
Most of the time yes, but not all the time..... depends on who's posting ;)

Yea you think......

OL40SVX 03-17-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 3352380)
Nothing is proven until the record is set. If we go down that road, the Fountain saw 183+ on one pass and the 200+ was capable. It will be a fun project without question.

You don't need to hold a world sanctioned event and press release to run 170+ in vee bottom FYI.

LAriverratt 03-17-2011 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by catastrophe (Post 3352758)
You are missing the point. Mr. Sgro and Mr. Fiore shouldnt be in the boat together attempting all this.

Firstly its a complete waste of money and secondly when you exist in an industry this small sometimes you can look around and see what your peers are doing to promote their product.

Do you see any other owners doing this ?? Wonder why.

The only other person that tried all this as a marketing tool went broke.

I understand your point, but who is gonna do it then??? who has the $$$, shop, tooling, knowledge and drive to put it all together??? records are made to be broken.... how many boat sales do you think can be attributed to Reggie's record??? No way to know but I'd say a lot!!!! I don't think its a good idea for them both to be in the boat at the same time either. I'm not questioning your opinion just looking at the other side of the coin too...lol

OldSchool 03-17-2011 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by OL40SVX (Post 3352769)
All I'm going to say is don't believe what you read on here........cause most of the time it's bs and wrong.

We finally agree on something!!! :D:drink:


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