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StClairRaceFan 05-17-2011 01:00 PM

Leave us out of this one. Yes our teams race for free.

This is what I'm talking about. One Series complaining about the other and not knowing all the facts. It appears that a racer from OPA states they race for free, when OSS is complaining about registration fees and OSS having to tell all the racers they are reducing the fees at a venue. It is pretty obvious of what series to join if you want to race, maybe that is why OPA is not struggling as much as OSS. One can afford to travel more if they race for free. In order for venues and promoters to raise money from sponsors for their race sites a good show must be put on. More boats equal more racing equals more excitement equals more spectators. The fastest way to kill the sport is to advertise a race and have a small fleet of boats show up. People will not be so willing to commit to showing up and supporting the racers, both financially and in person if they don't know what kind of turnout they are risking. When times are tough, that is when animosities must be set aside for the betterment of the sport. The old saying still applies- Go Big or Go Home.

Wahoo ATV 05-17-2011 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by screammachine (Post 3405427)
Nicly said, People need to be put in the promoters shoes for a year of prep, and then see if they would make the same comment. You just don't know who will show up. IT IS WHAT IT IS according to ZIPPER, and that how it gose. I would go to a one on one race. Jeff

It is not the Site Promoters or the Racers fault that only 10 boats showed. It is OSS fault for not securing the teams prior to committing to Biloxi. If you can't bring the show, don't promise it or take thier money.

PARADISE ISLAND 05-17-2011 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF (Post 3405428)
One could assume

I assume you could beat that fountain if they did not cheat?:confused:Have you ever had someone accuse you of cheating?

BRUCE SEROFF 05-17-2011 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by PARADISE ISLAND (Post 3405546)
I assume you could beat that fountain if they did not cheat?:confused:Have you ever had someone accuse you of cheating?


I dont know if we can beat him, if he didnt cheat. But I know some other teams can. I have never been accused of cheating. I dont give people a reason to accuse me

Back4More 05-17-2011 02:25 PM

The real house wifes of OSO...

spk1 05-17-2011 02:43 PM

We have all this attention on the thread, and the pages are starting to roll into the double digits on the cheating subject, and as I can denounce cheating, and dont respect it in any form, I think that we could turn this thread around to push the sport, and take all those, including myself who havent been the best at following every race, and find ways we can promote.
Even as I read this thread, I cant help but think, that all of the great minds we have on this board, and what ideas and experiences we could generate to help push powerboating as a whole back into the spotlight.
KeyWest Nationals is something that I do with my friends every year now, and I think its in part because of the poker run thats included, as well as the extra attention and detail put into that event beacuse it is a championship event, if we could start promoting that kind of attention and following, and even get each race event to have more of the social and party atmosphere as our poker runs, I bet we could sell one hell of alot more boats, as well as have one heck of alot more fun together,, because thAts what I feel it should be about. Reguardless of the boat you run, or the team you cheer for.

Pete B 05-17-2011 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3405500)
It is not the Site Promoters or the Racers fault that only 10 boats showed. It is OSS fault for not securing the teams prior to committing to Biloxi. If you can't bring the show, don't promise it or take thier money.

Intresting comment, I would not make a lot of claims towards any organization at this point of the season, as it is still early, and between the price of fuel, and the economy, there may be a few more let downs on the horizon!

THEJOKER 05-17-2011 05:11 PM

Allweiss just keeps smiing!:kiss:

zipper 05-17-2011 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by screammachine (Post 3405427)
Nicly said, People need to be put in the promoters shoes for a year of prep, and then see if they would make the same comment. You just don't know who will show up. IT IS WHAT IT IS according to ZIPPER, and that how it gose. I would go to a one on one race. Jeff

THANKS JEFF! leave me out of this dog fight:boat:

purrfection 05-17-2011 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV (Post 3405500)
It is not the Site Promoters or the Racers fault that only 10 boats showed. It is OSS fault for not securing the teams prior to committing to Biloxi. If you can't bring the show, don't promise it or take thier money.

Interesting comment. The OSS race in Biloxi in past years has had: 2007-23 boats, 2008-22 boats, 2009-25 boats, and 2010-26 boats. Pretty consistant for the last 4 years considering the economy. What's interesting to me is that there was a World Finals on the Gulf Coast last year that had 23 boats in attendance (3 less than last years OSS race in Biloxi).


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