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Aqua Banshee 05-16-2011 09:07 AM

Doc Jansen & Forehand cheating again
 
Looks like Doc Jansen, and Brian from Fountain got caught cheating again at the OSS race in the SVL. Thats 2 races in row that team Fountain has been caught cheating.

fountainfan42 05-16-2011 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Aqua Banshee (Post 3404160)
Looks like Doc Jansen, and Brian from Fountain got caught cheating again at the OSS race in the SVL. Thats 2 races in row that team Fountain has been caught cheating.

man thats not good

Expensive Date 05-16-2011 09:49 AM

I'm going to wait for the video:party-smiley-004:

36Tango 05-16-2011 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Aqua Banshee (Post 3404160)
Looks like Doc Jansen, and Brian from Fountain got caught cheating again at the OSS race in the SVL. Thats 2 races in row that team Fountain has been caught cheating.

What exactly did they do at this race to break the rules? How about the last one?

Gladhe8er 05-16-2011 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by 36Tango (Post 3404207)
What exactly did they do at this race to break the rules? How about the last one?

Last one was an illegal aluminum flywheel on the Merc 525 I believe.

2 Trick Rick 05-16-2011 10:01 AM

:lolhit:

[YOUTUBE]GIN1SOHn3SU[/YOUTUBE]

On Time 05-16-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Gladhe8er (Post 3404209)
Last one was an illegal aluminum flywheel on the Merc 525 I believe.

That'll sure help your acceleration!

POWERPLAY J 05-16-2011 10:05 AM

Pinocchio---Beak... hmmm...

BRUCE SEROFF 05-16-2011 10:07 AM

this time they got caught with no rev limiter and illegal ECM

sonicss42 05-16-2011 10:34 AM

Not very good at cheating is the way I see it.

sunsation96 05-16-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick (Post 3404214)
:lolhit:

GIN1SOHn3SU

Now that is some funny chit:lolhit:

JasonSmith 05-16-2011 11:01 AM

Funny.

wrinkleface 05-16-2011 12:06 PM

It's Bush's fault!!!!:party-smiley-004:

phragle 05-16-2011 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by wrinkleface (Post 3404324)
It's Bush's fault!!!!:party-smiley-004:

What do baked beans have to do with it??

http://files6.fliiby.com/images/_thu...74a4qbn8b1.jpg

rockstrmkr 05-16-2011 01:35 PM

I was at the races boring myself to tears, and if anyone cheated, at least that would have made it exciting.

The truth is that there was no race...11 boats, two of them broke, and two drivers were in two boats each that could not run at the same time....
Soooo, it was like watching paint dry:grinser010:

From what I understand the boat in question was set - up for P-1 on Saturday, but the organizers begged everyone to run on Sunday too so that there would be a few boats on the anemic race course....

From my perspective all the race teams that showed up, spent lots of time money and energy to race, should be applauded for doing their best to put on a show for the spectators...

Aqua Banshee 05-16-2011 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=rockstrmkr;3404404]

From what I understand the boat in question was set - up for P-1 on Saturday, but the organizers begged everyone to run on Sunday too so that there would be a few boats on the anemic race course....

I guess they should have DQ'd in P1 also because if you read the rules the rev limit is set for 5800 in Super Vee Single.

rockstrmkr 05-16-2011 02:40 PM

All due respect....who really cares?

There were boats running by themselves in their own class...All they had to do was start the race to win....It was a joke!

I think the spectators would have goten more value for their money paying to watch the poker run fleet do a fly-by...

Seems to me that if you want to complain about cheating, maybe it ought to be in a setting thats meaningful:drink:.

OSS race in Biloxi with less than 10 boats? Snoozefest...So not meaningful in any way...

All the best,
Hans

purrfection 05-16-2011 02:43 PM

I just don't get it. Dr Janssen is supposedly a first class orthopedic spine surgeon and is affilated with The Center For Spinal Disorders. Brian Forehand was a very well thought of employee of Fountain Powerboats. Together they have been caught cheating, not once but twice, at 2 races in a row. These once highly respected individuals' egos are so high that crossing the finish line first is the most important thing to them? Janssen is definitely setting some fine examples for his son and daughter. If they were fined or banned from racing, I wonder if their egos would be any different? Sad!!!

Hauling Trash 05-16-2011 03:21 PM

Brian is a DICKHEAD

Baja555 05-16-2011 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by POWERPLAY J (Post 3404220)
Pinocchio---Beak... hmmm...

+ 1 ... All praise the mighty fountains.. Bulls**t... I'm glad he's gone from the sport... Little man , big mouth and a cheater...

notda1 05-16-2011 05:35 PM

I used to blame all that kind of stuff on Reggie , guess there was more to it :angry-smiley-038:

precisiondetails 05-16-2011 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3404527)
+ 1 ... All praise the mighty fountains.. Bulls**t... I'm glad he's gone from the sport... Little man , big mouth and a cheater...

Very inteligent quote....NOT

Get a clue man, read the posts it was a joke of an event, love him or hate him Reggies boats are stupid fast and he helped draw intrest in the sport, so like people said, it was the most entertaining thing of the weekend, so there for, like in the NFL right now, lets get football being played again and then worry about the PED problem. Catch my drift man? Didnt mean to be a dick, just saying my piece, you have a skater so its all good.:drink:

precisiondetails 05-16-2011 06:10 PM

LOL and how Ironic is that video? I think the bigger problem is the big picture and that is: overal as a sport offshore racing is a JOKE!!! And that truly sucks cause I think all of us on here share the passion for the sport. Its a shame!!!

AIR TIME 05-16-2011 06:25 PM

man that sucks they should be banned from racing anywhere in 2011:angry-smiley-038:, and these doctors that do surgerys think there god or something:lolhit:. I hate the doc that replaced my knee from a big boston hospital. my knee is phucked. after 9 surgerys and replacement:angry-smiley-038:. ban these azzes.

ILMORdude 05-16-2011 06:36 PM

Dont get it. They have the newest latest greatest stuff right? Why cheat? Like Boat Racing needs this BS.

rexcramer1 05-16-2011 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3404527)
+ 1 ... All praise the mighty fountains.. Bulls**t... I'm glad he's gone from the sport... Little man , big mouth and a cheater...

He has nothing to do with the company anymore and these last two races and you are talking trash about the man. Reggie won races by doing more testing and having more seat time than anyone else, I don't what these current clowns are doing.

Its like they are trying to prove they can win without Reggie, but they are skipping the R&D and ruining a good name very quickly. Idiots

precisiondetails 05-16-2011 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by rexcramer1 (Post 3404777)
He has nothing to do with the company anymore and these last two races and you are talking trash about the man. Reggie won races by doing more testing and having more seat time than anyone else, I don't what these current clowns are doing.

Its like they are trying to prove they can win without Reggie, but they are skipping the R&D and ruining a good name very quickly. Idiots

Amen +1 :drink:

EXCESS ENERGY 05-16-2011 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Baja555 (Post 3404527)
+ 1 ... All praise the mighty fountains.. Bulls**t... I'm glad he's gone from the sport... Little man , big mouth and a cheater...

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marylandmark 05-16-2011 08:00 PM

Can't wait to see a new Xtranormal

tomtbone1993 05-16-2011 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by ILMORdude (Post 3404736)
Dont get it. They have the newest latest greatest stuff right? Why cheat? Like Boat Racing needs this BS.

"You aren't trying if you aren't cheating" -Jim Rome

:party-smiley-004:

Do you guys get this wound up when nascar catches cheaters as well???

I though it was all part of racing not just boat racing.....:kiss:

ILMORdude 05-16-2011 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by tomtbone1993 (Post 3404851)
"You aren't trying if you aren't cheating" -Jim Rome

:party-smiley-004:

Do you guys get this wound up when nascar catches cheaters as well???

I though it was all part of racing not just boat racing.....:kiss:

To quote Jim Rome relating anything to racing is absurd!! :lolhit: Hes a cornball

Nascar catches cheaters, yes but do people get wound up? Probably, but probably not like this. Nascar has many things that boat racing doesnt have and the most important being STABILITY. Lol

Phantom1 05-16-2011 08:36 PM

He got caught at two races in a row. What would happen if a NASCAR team was busted for cheating at roughly 25% to 30% of the races they participated in?

His son and daughter have both raced with him. "So Pops, are we gonna get DQ'ed again this race?" What an idiot he is.....

smcser 05-16-2011 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by rockstrmkr (Post 3404471)
All due respect....who really cares?

There were boats running by themselves in their own class...All they had to do was start the race to win....It was a joke!

I think the spectators would have goten more value for their money paying to watch the poker run fleet do a fly-by...

Seems to me that if you want to complain about cheating, maybe it ought to be in a setting thats meaningful:drink:.

OSS race in Biloxi with less than 10 boats? Snoozefest...So not meaningful in any way...

All the best,
Hans

As most of us know, money is tight! There was 11 boats, and we all worked our butts off to put on a good show. Maybe you should ask the missing boats were they were as 42 had claimed they would be there and didn't show. So be it. OSS worked very hard to put this together and even discounted the fees to help. They are working on new ways to get a bigger turnout at other locations by asking the teams what they can do to help them get there. My hats off to the OSS leaders for playing very straight with us and treating us with respect. And we did get everything they said we would.

Thank you OSS from Team Purrrfect 417!

bobo 05-16-2011 09:03 PM

,:bsflag:
Let,s see here ,........
They ( team fountain ) took their Top Throttleman , ( ,by their fans own admission )
Along with a one off brand new hull , ( questionable at best ) along with the latest fountain technology ,
and STILL felt the need to

.!!!!!!!!!!!...................CHEAT .............................!!!!!!!!
to beat a 10 year old boat ??????


Kudo,s to Maddog He almost got,em even with the cheating going on . LOL:lolhit:

On Time 05-16-2011 10:29 PM

You know, I own a Fountain, I like my boat beak and all, I've had my picture taken with Reggie (twice) and everytime one of these episodes gets going I always think the same thing: "It doesn't matter what they are saying about you, as long as they are saying it."---P.T. Barnum

kilrbusa 05-16-2011 11:13 PM

Cheating comes at a price...it may not be directly visabile immediately but it will tarnish their character in time. Its interesting to see how little or great standards people will allow to compromise their integrity!

you have to ask who is assembling the motors and rigging the boat...are they installing illegal parts on their own or being paid to do so by the person funding the effort??? so who is to blame for the illegal parts and how does reggie have to do with this???

i am sure there is less than 1% of us who can answer these questions to get to the root of the problem!!!

Cash Bar 05-16-2011 11:21 PM

I just want someone to repost the xtranormal video from after Key West. It was F'n classic !!

I remember this line:

"Christ, I think the whole Saratoga Stampede boat went out of the factory through the back door." (or very close)

LMAO !!!

StClairRaceFan 05-16-2011 11:40 PM

11 boats at a race
 
Can anyone call it a race if only 11 boats show up? Sounds more like an exhibition. Is this an indication of things to come for the OSS Series this summer? OPA has a great group of racers that continue to support the race venues and each other and make sure that a good showing will take place. This is just another example of where the bickering between the 2 series's needs to end and an agreement needs to happen between the 2 and combine to make 1 great racing association. With 1 strong series, offshore racing can weather the economy and come out strong, but if racers continue to be divided and split between racing venues and loyalties, it could be the demise of offshore racing and many people will be disappointed. With the season still early, I am hoping that boats were delayed in rigging and testing and this is not an indication of things to come or it could be a very long summer.

AB From Windsor 05-17-2011 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by StClairRaceFan (Post 3405077)
Can anyone call it a race if only 11 boats show up? Sounds more like an exhibition. Is this an indication of things to come for the OSS Series this summer? OPA has a great group of racers that continue to support the race venues and each other and make sure that a good showing will take place. This is just another example of where the bickering between the 2 series's needs to end and an agreement needs to happen between the 2 and combine to make 1 great racing association. With 1 strong series, offshore racing can weather the economy and come out strong, but if racers continue to be divided and split between racing venues and loyalties, it could be the demise of offshore racing and many people will be disappointed. With the season still early, I am hoping that boats were delayed in rigging and testing and this is not an indication of things to come or it could be a very long summer.



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BRUCE SEROFF 05-17-2011 07:40 AM

It is a big deal that a team got caught cheating. TWICE
Does it surprise any of you that a fountain was caught cheating at a boat race? They are always suspected and sometimes caught.

If any of you fiollowed the SVL drama last year, the V Lite class was heading in a possitive direction. Boat counts were coming up, competition was close and most of all we were all friends. We all helped each other. And would not consider cheating. Then, one week before the first race of the season, a new boat comes along. (Fountain) They Did not go through standard procedure with the tech commitee, 90 days prior to first race. This was a one off boat. No drawings or specs were submitted to OSS for approval. But OSS deemed him legal to race. the owner would threaten a lawsuit if anyone got near his boat, including tech inspectors. He felt he was above everyone else and did not have to follow standard procedures. After that, the class fell divided and boat count dropped off. I must say in my opinion, Brian Foreskin and Doc Janssen are two of the most arrogant people I have ever had the displeasure of racing with. We Were warned repeatedly, not to let this boat run with us, but we did any way and look what happened.

With regards to Biloxi. A great site by the way. I feel bad for them. But in my opinion the poor turnout is the fault of OSS. They had no schedule until late winter, when the other two orgs had their schedules posted. the teams decided that they would make their schedules with what was already published. They didnt know if OSS would even post a schedule other than Biloxi. Last year, we had 9 boats in our class. Thats all they had total this year.

So yes... you can call it a race if only 11 boats show, but they would need to be in the same class.


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